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WOW......people type way to much on these things!
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well, i think you should really listen to oro on this, because he plays against hugz quite a lot, and his crew got in the top 20 in san fran.Originally posted by Oro
I love to fight Peach. Samus sure feels like a Peach counter to me.
I'd say one of Samus's biggest advantages over Peach is how freaking easy it is to hit her with a charge blast. So many of Peach's moves feel safe from a distance, but are wide open to charge blasts. If she's pulling a turnip and is half a stage away from you, you can hit her with the blast. If she's jumping at you and throws a turnip, you can hit her with the blast. If she's floating directly at you, shoot slightly below her (but still high enough to hit her). If she doesn't have a second jump, she has no chance of avoiding it. If she does have a second jump, she has a fraction of a chance. If she's dumb enough to do a dsmash and you're not with it it's range (like many Peaches get accustomed to doing), you can hit her with a real easy charge blast. And also, your typical set ups like hitting off of tech rolls and rolls still do wonders against Peach. So any time that you have time, charge a blast up, you'll probably have an opportunity to shoot it.
A lot of Peaches, as I've noticed, like to Shield grab a lot. If you see one trying to do so to you, do a dair, l cancel into a jab, and then dsmash. If she continues to shield the entire time, the dsmash will push you out of her grab range. If she tries to shield grab the dair, the jab and dsmash will hit her. Take advantage of the fact that when l-cancelled, Samus has the least amount of landing lag of any of the higher tier characters.
Fsmash ***** Peach. It outprioritizes all of Peach's aerials. If she's floating at you, a good strategy is to just walk away and then smash her when she's within your range. Ftilts also a good move. Good to put pressure on her shield, good for knocking her around, great range.
Recovery's a bit of a pain if you're coming in low. Turnips can screw up bomb jumps, but you can actually use them to your advantage, by letting the turnips hit your bombs while you're still near them, thus giving you the jump of the bomb without getting hit by the turnip. But that's more of an art, I don't know how to teach that Without using your second jump, try to get underneath the ledge, then jump up and use your grapple to grab it if necessary. Ledge hopping on and cancelling into a dsmash seems to work wonders.
Your main kill moves on Peach should be Charge Blast, Fsmash, Ftilt, possibly uptilt, possibly sex kick, and missiles. There's a number of good ways to get these off on her, too, even against really good Peaches.
infinity said:samus ownz almost everyone, IMO everyone, on dreamland. The ceiling is very high and it will often take 200+% to kill samus.
Another stage is battlefield, pretty much because of the platforms. Although, grappling may be a little harder, im not sure.
Another one I can think of is brinstar depths, though most people don't play there. For me, its because she can grapple everything, but, for the most part, you can't hang at all or the beam will dislatch. Still, as the course shifts, many characters will have a problem recovering, but not samus.
Mainly shoot for stages with either a high ceiling or platforms or both if possible.
Oh, Quite simple just before the tunip hits you press the A button!how do you catch the turnips? because those were truly a pain when i was playing lvl 9 peach
Unless you're in the air, in which case you hit Z. It's very helpful if she's throwing them at you as you're trying to recover - not only does it get it out of the way without forcing you to change your course/timing/etc, but there's tricks you can do with it to help you recover even better (bombing a turning right after you drop it knocks both you and the turnip up, where you could re-catch it).Oh, Quite simple just before the tunip hits you press the A button!
Same with every other item.
But,beware Peach is also able to pull out a beam sword.
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ok this makes almost no sence...who are you trying to support? lol XDpeach > samus > all
one reason only - her CRAZY wavedash
missles, and as she sloats above you dont go after her, wait until she attempts to touch the ground and nail the WH0re! it is a gay match up! i wish she was like dead...foreverHow in the hell do you edge guard the 5lut?
dude if youy are coming to vancouver welcome to our smash comunity, we got lotsa of good players, and wait till peach trys to touch the ground, don't let her get her float and jumps back, peach is so enoying thank god there are almost no BC peaches...Me too, I don't have problems with ANY other match up. In England, most other smashers can be gimped easily by dsmash and some se><y edgeguarding skillz. No one even knows what CC jabz means here either lol.
Most people say missles + charge shot = the recipe to success of edge guarding vs Peach. I'm guessing if she's really high up you just leave her until she gets to the floor.
I might be moving to Vancouver for six months in March, smash scene any good around there?