Sakurai has wronged us all by leaving the game unbalanced.

[CluelessBTD]

I just can't get over the fact that his grounded wizard's foot has such low priority and that characters can duck under it.

 

[dlen06]

I thought people got over this in March.

April, at the latest.

Spoiler

10you'retooslows

QFTWAFFLE
Overcoming diversity is what ganondorf mainers are all about.

 

[TechnoMonster]

Sakurai was trying to make the characters come to life more than balance the game.

Balance is on the opposite end of the scale from diversity; the more diverse and interesting you make a game, the less it is possible to accurately balance it.

Rock Paper Scissors is hella balanced and comes entirely down to mindgames. I don't want to play it right now. I will however play you in smash and stomp your face with my dorfus.

Also, dorfus isn't terrible on offense, he's just awful on defense.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

In SSE I thought the reason you don't get to use him until the end was that his moveset would be da bomb and he'd bust out his sword and tear 'em up. Almost like a new character, or a character reborn. I was wrong, and I was sad. But then I noticed how cool his Usmash was, and I was like "Hey, that's a cool Usmash."

Anyway... For me, the tie between the most fun to play characters are Ganon and Ike. They feel so solid and they get that "BOOM" sound effect when they hit stuff. Whenever I play people I cycle from Lucario to Ike to Ganon to Sheik to Marth. And I never really notice a huge difference. If I was winning as Luc, I still win as Ganon. Or if I was losing, I still lose. I've done better against people with Ganon than with MK or some other high tier. This leads me to the conclusion that the game is 70-80% skill and 10-20% tier and 10-30% match-up.

 

[CluelessBTD]

Ganon can potentially win ANY matchup, thx to his flame choke. If you have godly tech-chasing skills at least. Ganon was given some tools to balance things, but not every character has

 

[adumbrodeus]

Wronged us, Oh yes. But they have punsihed Gannon even more!


Lawl, how silly, what a sillybillykin's he is! Anyhow getting my self back on topic, I feel however that Gannon is in fact more playable at a higher level in contrast to the cast of Brawl compared to Gannon in Melee. He hasn't many flaws, is he run's slow don't run. If he has lag on his airs avoid those airs. As a whole he is weak without a doubt, but taking advantage of his exceptional power and quicky movement gives him new potential. I'm not sure why everyone still considers him nerfed, he still has a spamable DAIR and UAIR! Been given a nifty edgeguarding suiside at the cost of his DOWN + B returning jumps. He isn't bad, just used badly.​

MY EYES!

Every single reference to Ganon is spelled with 2 "ns".

You sir, are GANNON-BANNED!

 

[TheDuplexDuo]

MY EYES!

Every single reference to Ganon is spelled with 2 "ns".

You sir, are GANNON-BANNED!

BWUAH!? ME GANNON-BANNED! BUT IT'S THE SOURCE OF MY GANON SKILLZ!

How could I break Rule one! >_<

Curse you GANON-DORKS!!​

 

[P a i n]

because as ganny you can say "DO YOU HEAR THE THUNDAAAA!!!!" as you stomp their face through the stage with a SHDair. You can't do that with DDD.

sorry but that is sig worthy
On topic, and mentioned alot already, but just play as a different character.
In all honesty there isn't a cap on skill, so pros with ridiculous skill with DDD/Marth/Falco may will still lose to an even better character if they're good enough. Sure they have an advantage and it's tough, but with enough hard work it could be done.

 

[Z1GMA]

MasterWarlord! I agree more than 100% with all that you've said..

I love playing Ganondorf, one of my favourites in fact... But when the matches gets more serious and I wan't to keep up with the top characters, I MUST swith to another character to stand a chance...
This sux really hard.

Take Samus for example, Snakes Utilt is more powerful than all of Samus's attacks. (not to mention how fast it comes out too).
His mines & granades are almost as powerful as Samus's charge shot!
There's a lot more..
It's insane !!

Guess we should be happy that Megaman isn't in brawl!
Ohhhh boy he would **** Snake and the other top tiers ^^D

 

[AlphaZealot]

Man I felt the same way every time I tried using Pichu in Melee tournaments.

 

[Z1GMA]

Man I felt the same way every time I tried using Pichu in Melee tournaments.

I feel ya!

 

[Amide]

Man I felt the same way every time I tried using Pichu in Melee tournaments.

Pichu was MADE to be bad. It even was mentioned in his trophy description.

 

[DRaGZ]

I tried to think positive when Ganondorf had his old moveset in Melee, thinking I wouldn't have to readjust my tactics with how I played as Ganon.

I was dead wrong.

Ganondorf was now horribly slow, beyond all reason, and his beautiful wizard's foot recovery was taken from him. I still wanted to main Ganon, but I simply couldn't when I saw how superior Dedede was in every way. Better recovery, range, projectiles, priority, power, recovery, speed, weight, chain grabs, you name it, Dedede's got it over Ganondorf. I still like Dedede as a character, but I like Ganon a hell of a lot better, so even ignoring cut characters, the terrible balancing of the smash bros games has always been a annoyin factor for me. I know no fighting game can be perfectly balanced, but I'd like to see the gap between characters smaller. While tiers usually don't affect my play, after a lot of play as the earlier mentioned two characters I just can't help but notice how superior Dedede is to Ganondorf, and it's really starting to hurt the Brawl competetive scene.

I feel as if I'm forced to play Dedede (As I use slow powerful characters), and I'm not exactly fond of people telling me how much I spam, which, pretty much, is the only way Dedede can keep up with the likes of Meta Knight and Snake.

In any case, due to tiers, I am no longer able to use my favorite character competetively, and this is compeltely unacceptable. We need to start demanding to Sakurai that he better balance the next game whenever it comes around.

I use Ganondorf in tournies against DeDeDes, and I main R.O.B.

 

[Z1GMA]

I use Ganondorf in tournies against DeDeDes, and I main R.O.B.

O_O ?!

Then Your Gdorf must be quite unique?