Data Ryu Combo Thread

[BZero]

Would Ryu be considered a more of a ground based fighter than an aerial fighter? I get his aerials are strong but he seems more of a ground based fighter. Is this true?

 

[Kaladin]

How do you guys go about landing his combo starting tilts? Soft Utilt has so little range I feel like a read is required to get it in the neutral. Help?

 

[roymustang1990-]

Did some testing.

Shakunetsu Hadouken causes knockdown(if all four hits hit?) which can set up dash attack/short hop fair combo opportunies.

Edit:also,does anyone know if ryus retreating falling u air can be shieldgrabbed? If not my gut tells me it can follow up(of course the opponent still has time to react).

 

[onehundredhitz]

Sorry if this combo has already been posted, as I haven't read the entire thread, but one string I like doing is SH nair > cr.lk x2 > cr.mk > true DP. When done correctly, nice 5-hit combo that nets you a good 36%. Tested on ZSS.

 

[ArticulateT]

Been trying for the most part to get the following combo to work, but my timing is off, and I don't think it works on certain characters (Marth is a yes, Sheik is a no)

Focus Punch > Dash Cancel forwards > L.Dtilt > L.Dtilt > Grab > DThrow > Input Shoryuken

The issue becomes whether or not the target slides back enough to be out of range of your grab.

 

[link and ike lover]

Welp there are two words for Ryu:
OP

 

[icraq]

SH double nair is possible if you time your first nair IMMEDIATELY after short hopping. if you're running forward it's kind of tricky to not do a forward air, but you really have to hit A right after jump VERY quickly. If you do this close to a tall opponent you can get two sweetspotted nairs for 16 dmg, and you can input dragon punch or whatever right after.

i recommend going into training mode and setting the time to 2/3 or something so you can see how it works, then you can work on the timing

 

[onehundredhitz]

The trailer reveal combo gets you 53% alone. LOL

 

[DuckyHunter]

Doing some testing since icraq said double nair was possible. You actually get access to some really high damage percentage specific combos.
Tested on pit 55%-65% in training mode
Running approach sh sweetspot nair -> sweetspot nair -> run -> fh sweatspot nair -> tatsumaki 35%
This is also possible off of FADC2/3 starting at 45% FADC2 and 38% FADC3
Cool trap SH nair -> nair -> pause or run forward -> no tech -> strong true hadoken(reset) -> run -> dtiltx2 -> true shoryuken
Combos seem to start shortly after opponents go into tumble from sweetspot nair otherwise they hit the ground before the second nair making teching possible.

And apparently I have no life so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3OpgsSTFcE&feature=youtu.be

 

[icraq]

Doing some testing since icraq said double nair was possible. You actually get access to some really high damage percentage specific combos.
Tested on pit 55%-65% in training mode
Running approach sh sweetspot nair -> sweetspot nair -> run -> fh sweatspot nair -> tatsumaki 35%
This is also possible off of FADC2/3 starting at 45% FADC2 and 38% FADC3
Cool trap SH nair -> nair -> pause or run forward -> no tech -> strong true hadoken(reset) -> run -> dtiltx2 -> true shoryuken
Combos seem to start shortly after opponents go into tumble from sweetspot nair otherwise they hit the ground before the second nair making teching possible.

good work here! just from what you've posted i think this is his highest potential combo starter at lowest percents.
i'm wondering if double nair can be shield grabbed. like if the late nair hits shield and then the 2nd sweetspot nair comes out right before hitting the ground. i think with proper spacing it might be possible to be safe on shield?

edit: wait you did this on pit at 55? nevermind about the low percent thing! if someone's at 50, you get double nair that puts them at 66, one more nair is 74 if you could connect DP at the end somehow it could KO with rage. though the nairs would be a little stale damage wise by that point.

 

[DuckyHunter]

good work here! just from what you've posted i think this is his highest potential combo starter at lowest percents.
i'm wondering if double nair can be shield grabbed. like if the late nair hits shield and then the 2nd sweetspot nair comes out right before hitting the ground. i think with proper spacing it might be possible to be safe on shield?

edit: wait you did this on pit at 55? nevermind about the low percent thing! if someone's at 50, you get double nair that puts them at 66, one more nair is 74 if you could connect DP at the end somehow it could KO with rage. though the nairs would be a little stale damage wise by that point.

It could kill with rage. I don't really have a way to test however. And nair -> nair -> run -> shoryu does work.

 

[onehundredhitz]

Doing some testing since icraq said double nair was possible. You actually get access to some really high damage percentage specific combos.
Tested on pit 55%-65% in training mode
Running approach sh sweetspot nair -> sweetspot nair -> run -> fh sweatspot nair -> tatsumaki 35%
This is also possible off of FADC2/3 starting at 45% FADC2 and 38% FADC3
Cool trap SH nair -> nair -> pause or run forward -> no tech -> strong true hadoken(reset) -> run -> dtiltx2 -> true shoryuken
Combos seem to start shortly after opponents go into tumble from sweetspot nair otherwise they hit the ground before the second nair making teching possible.

And apparently I have no life so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3OpgsSTFcE&feature=youtu.be

Your sh Nair combo can kill at 55% if all hits are sweet spotted. Sh Nair sweet > sh Nair sweet > run > true DP. Your opponent will still be floating in the air in hit stun, giving you the chance to kill. Well, with Mewtwo, anyways.

 

[DuckyHunter]

Your sh Nair combo can kill at 55% if all hits are sweet spotted. Sh Nair sweet > sh Nair sweet > run > true DP. Your opponent will still be floating in the air in hit stun, giving you the chance to kill. Well, with Mewtwo, anyways.

It kills pit if you start the combo at 60% that's no red flash no di though so with di it prob won't. 61% shoryuken doesn't combo however,

 

[icraq]

an easy way to factor in rage is give 1% per 10% dmg, so if ryu has 100% dmg and your opponent is at 55%, consider them at 65% in terms of knockback scaling.

there's some discrepancies to that formula though, some moves have greater gains from rage and it's not really clear yet what moves do and why. like falcon's upsmash.

 

[PokemonyeWest]

Hey @ ItsRainingGravy I think you should streamline the OP and list combos in ascending order (lower % damage combos first, higher % damage combos last), scour the thread and add combos that people have posted (that you have tested) to the OP, and add rough damage values. Most of the combo threads in the other boards operate this way.

 

[onehundredhitz]

Hey guys. I don't know if this combo is known already or not, but I managed to get a sweet fair Sourspot > true DP kill at 105%. It's kind of a b*tch to pull off cause the timing/input is a bit strict, and probably isn't very practical, but its possible. Take a look:

 

[HoodedAltair]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70-0twB8HU
some true combo's i've been working on. That is...if the opponent misses the initial tech from down throw. Everything else is true

 

[PapaJ]

Welp there are two words for Ryu:
OP

I mean we've had him for a week so probably not

Hey guys. I don't know if this combo is known already or not, but I managed to get a sweet fair Sourspot > true DP kill at 105%. It's kind of a b*tch to pull off cause the timing/input is a bit strict, and probably isn't very practical, but its possible. Take a look:

Sourspot Fair and Nairs have multiple combos at multiple percents. One of the easier ones is Sourspot Nair into Dsmash (20%). You can also land sourspot Fair > Usmash (25%). But this is all based on weight, hurtbox, fall speed, and timing. Honestly Id try to test this out against the high tiers since thats probably who we're gonna fight the most in tournaments.

 

[icraq]

I know its probably been posted already but man, late dair into true DP is one of the best punishes. 30% combo.. Death if started at 70% on avg.. Yeah. Fixed KB means this works at high percents. Hell if you could just focus on only getting this combo you'd only need to land 3 dairs per stock and a couple hadoukens.

 

[PapaJ]

I know its probably been posted already but man, late dair into true DP is one of the best punishes. 30% combo.. Death if started at 70% on avg.. Yeah. Fixed KB means this works at high percents. Hell if you could just focus on only getting this combo you'd only need to land 3 dairs per stock and a couple hadoukens.

Is Sourspot Dair's KB fixed or is the Growth on it so low it's not a factor? Also ill try incoprating this more, if this is reliable that means 3 out of 5 aerials are combo starters and would help Ryu's get damage/get the kill

 

[Bobert]

Don't know if anybody else mentioned it but Falling Sweetspot Fair to another Fair at low %'s is pretty neat and does a hefty 30% damage if you hit with the foot both times.

 

[icraq]

Is Sourspot Dair's KB fixed or is the Growth on it so low it's not a factor? Also ill try incoprating this more, if this is reliable that means 3 out of 5 aerials are combo starters and would help Ryu's get damage/get the kill

As long as your opponent is grounded there is no sourspot dair. It's always 12% and the KB does increase slightly so it's not completely fixed but it's very low growth.

 

[PapaJ]

As long as your opponent is grounded there is no sourspot dair. It's always 12% and the KB does increase slightly so it's not completely fixed but it's very low growth.

Hmm didnt know this. Alright guess I got some practice to do tomorrow.

 

[icraq]

Hmm didnt know this. Alright guess I got some practice to do tomorrow.

Something to note is its inflexibility to true combo on floaties. Jiggs, Rosa, all seem difficult to time the sweetspot of the DP within the true combo window.
Another factor is if you slightly overshoot your opponent you have to reverse DP. But hey, free style points.

 

[Lunais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f70-0twB8HU
some true combo's i've been working on. That is...if the opponent misses the initial tech from down throw. Everything else is true

This is what I am talking about. Yea barring the tech everything else checks out. Tried it out with someone. Nice testing dude.

 

[Z1GMA]

Don't know if anybody else mentioned it but Falling Sweetspot Fair to another Fair at low %'s is pretty neat and does a hefty 30% damage if you hit with the foot both times.

Ya Fair into Fair is free damage.

On tall characters you can also start it with a Rising FH Fair > DJ Fair > Shory
And on some heavies you can Falling Fair > RIsing FH Fair > DJ Fair / Shory

 

[ItsRainingGravy]

Hey @ ItsRainingGravy I think you should streamline the OP and list combos in ascending order (lower % damage combos first, higher % damage combos last), scour the thread and add combos that people have posted (that you have tested) to the OP, and add rough damage values. Most of the combo threads in the other boards operate this way.

I updated the OP. I will continue to work on it later tonight/this week.

Sorry for the delays. Relationship problems. Everything is fine now, though.

 

[PapaJ]

I updated the OP. I will continue to work on it later tonight/this week.

Sorry for the delays. Relationship problems. Everything is fine now, though.

Thats good to hear. Also no need to apologize everyone was having fun finding new combos to do with Ryu.

So another sourspot Nair combo, and im sorry if I or someone else already posted this, is Nair > Fsmash. The tricky thing about this combo is that you cannot just be vertically falling you have to be moving towards your opponent and FF the Nair right before or as soon as you make contact with the opponent. Or you could land the Nair right on top of them, it'll look like a crossup, that way you can land the Fsmash. It works as low as 75% on Mario and as high as 125%. It could be a bit higher but after that it becomes inconsistent.

However I recommend the Sourspot Nair > Dsmash combo because that is far far more consistent and a solid 20% damage. I'd only go for this combo if you can KO them with Fsmash, it does 22-23 damage.

Edit: Becareful with the latter way of performing this combo as you might send them the opposite direction instead and miss your Fsmash.

 

[Lunais]

Some in game, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXNz9wRzLQs

 

[ItsRainingGravy]

Added approaching sweetspotted Nair combos to the OP.



EDIT: Hmm...just noticed that updating the thread title removed the "Data" tag. Whoops.

 

[Legato]

weak fair--->dair is a true combo. Pulled it off against another Ryu and secured a spike off the edge with it, killed him at 60%. It was beautiful.

Weak fair also true combos into a jumping Tatsumaki Senpukyaku. It seems like the sweet spot only hits with forward b, if anyone knows if it can be timed into the true input I would love to know how. As of now, it kills around 130-140% without the input.

 

[iLLEST]

FA1 into tatsu kills sheik at around 100 iirc.

 

[Renegade TX2000]

Ryu's up tilt into dair is a true combo into spike at high percentages

Best time to use it in my opinion is when someone is on the ledge and they use ledge get up and you punish them with up tilt into spike.

 

[B.A.M.]

Made a huge combo compendium when he came out. If you guys are looking for base combos or what strings into what you can check it out here. footstool stuff included of course.

 

[PapaJ]

So should we list set ups as well as combos? Or would you rather them be tried and true combos?

 

[Z1GMA]

At around 35 ~ 40: Falling Nair > SH Rising Nair > Falling Nair > Rising Fair. 39% Combo.

 

[BlueBirdE]

So should we list set ups as well as combos? Or would you rather them be tried and true combos?

I think set ups are just as important if not more but Idk if this is the thread for it.

lvl 2,3 focus -> sh dair true shoryu true combo on characters like fox,falco. seems to kill if you get it around 60%

 

[Rango the Mercenary]

So should we list set ups as well as combos? Or would you rather them be tried and true combos?

Tried and true combos are far more practical. Would greatly enjoy them being listed.

Setups could be put in a separate list.

 

[PapaJ]

Well we probably could do some nice combos of a person who tripped due to Hadoken. Anyone know the percentage that Hadoken has?

 

[Bergbuur]

Strong D-Tilt -> Shoryuken at very close range is great. does 20% and kills.
pretty much everything else I have has already been said.

You can also do a Strong D-Tilt -> Strong true Shoryuken. (+ 3 Damage (25), kills earlier)
The trick is: When do D-Tilt keep holding A and DO NOT release it. Input 6 2 3 and press B (still keep holding A)
So you release the strong true Shoryuken with B.

If you release A before u press B you end up with a weak true Shoryuken or a slow true Hadouken.

I found it out against a Olimar with more than 100%.

Edit: looks like you can not pull it of against every character (some not at high %)