Ryker Mafia Is Over: Ryker Always Wins

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Awesome, so if you flip town we've got our direction to follow. And if you flip scum, we throw it out and start from scratch.

 

[S-Tier]

You should know this isn't alignment indicating, and isn't even something disproving. Unless of course you can deduce a scum tell from that but hey.

What? Of course it doesn't say anything about my alignment. My whole point of that post is showing you why I'm not a lyncher and never had a hidden agenda of getting J lynched. I was showing you my very thought process of my view of J.

 

[S-Tier]

Awesome, so if you flip town we've got our direction to follow. And if you flip scum, we throw it out and start from scratch.

Nope lol. We lynch scum today. And then we lynch scum tomorrow. That's all there is to it.

 

[Gova]

2. dtjglyphmoney (1) Dabuz
3. AM ()
4. The Account With No Name ()
7. Inferno ()
8. giraffelasergun ()
9. Dabunz (1) TAWNN
10. J (2) S-Tier, Zapp
11. Zapp Brannigan ()
12. S-Tier (4) Inferno, J, AM, Glyph
13. Swiss ()

Not voting - GLG, Swiss

With 10 playing, it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline is set for April 25th at 11:59 CST (GMT-6).

 

[Inferno3044]

Your dream thing makes no sense, especially with your N2 results. First you get Zapp, AM, and J. That has some legitimacy. 3 players in this game. There's a possibility of an anti-town faction in those. But then you get WL, Ryker, and Allegory. That consists of half of a hydra, the mod, and someone that got replaced out before that could happen. I'm willing to wait for you to get your role PM back if that will possibly clear up some things.

 

[The Account With No Name]

We're in agreement that lynching S-tier would be the best course of action. His role is just worth so much for us to be confirmed, and the only way to literally confirm, is lynching him. This eliminates the risk of him being a lyncher and will provide us with either a guaranteed scum between 3 people.

We are 10 men up, it would be unnecessary to take risks. Zen, if you were actually dreamer, you would've already realized that it would be perfectly A-ok to lynch you, since we'd lynch your scum-guys after. Your reluctance makes us doubt your claim a whole lot more now.

 

[Axel]

Don't really care about either your thoughts or Glyph's thoughts Inferno. The way you guys think is not in reach of being helped. Only care about AM and Zapp.

Don't care bout being. Waiting for Zapp to confirm me as town.

 

[S-Tier]

Don't really care about either your thoughts or Glyph's thoughts Inferno. The way you guys think is not in reach of being helped. Only care about AM and Zapp.

Don't care bout being lynched. Waiting for Zapp to confirm me as town.

fixed.

Woah John you posted that? I can't believe you.

 

[The Account With No Name]

Waiting for Zapp to confirm me as town.

Interested in this as well, though.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

After his first two real posts you call em flat out scum. Need. I. Say. More.

The above is where I first mention thinking J to be scum. Yes I flat out say that, and that's how I do so with all of my reads. Remember my JTB push? "JTB is scum, JTB is scum". That's simply how I play Gorf. When iI have a read. I have a read. You're speculation of lyncher is all paranoia from Glyph's last post. His questioning of "why would Zen as scum do this now when he would die?" That's the only reason for your feeling because I thought that same thing after reading it. The fact of the matter is that I'm town and this is simply how I play.

No. You may love nonelaboration and playing antitown and whatnot, but the way you've reacted with J is NOT how you play. You become normal after D1, our reads tend to be near on the same boat after D1, and if not, then I at least understand where you're getting some of your scum reads. But no, throughout the entire game you've had a constant reiteration of J being scum and that we should lynch him soon after -enter scenario here-. You've been subtly piggy backing a J scum read since the beginning of the game. And PLUS, his game has improved ever since I don't remember the post but when he actually started being committal about the game. Yea his first posts were bad. But that's because he was V/LA with a balls posting restriction, so don't come at me with that jazz.

 

[S-Tier]

We're in agreement that lynching S-tier would be the best course of action. His role is just worth so much for us to be confirmed, and the only way to literally confirm, is lynching him. This eliminates the risk of him being a lyncher and will provide us with either a guaranteed scum between 3 people.

We are 10 men up, it would be unnecessary to take risks. Zen, if you were actually dreamer, you would've already realized that it would be perfectly A-ok to lynch you, since we'd lynch your scum-guys after. Your reluctance makes us doubt your claim a whole lot more now.

To trust me role like that is flat out horrible. Like Inferno said the n2 one hardly even makes sense. Lynching me does nothing other than show you that I'm town. The only reason you should ever lynch me or anyone is if you think they are scum. Lynching someone for "information" is a very very bad way to play. I expect Glyph to not understand this, but you should should.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

We're lynching you, and then following your course of lynching J afterward if you're town. There's no reason not to, and out of your plays yours has been worse imo so boom.

 

[S-Tier]

Alright AM not reading your last post. If you can't see that you're a ****** after the post I made then there is no helping you.

Not Dreamer.
I'm once again, Ryker Moderator of AiB. A vanilla.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

K so we're lynching you. Cool.

 

[S-Tier]

And I realized that any other vanillas should be able to confirm that I am vanilla because it doesn't mention this in our role, it simply says that we don't have any abilities.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

So much for deleting your Role PM?

 

[The Account With No Name]

Next point of issue: Why did you come up with the dreamer ****?

 

[S-Tier]

Unvote at least until Zapp returns. I don't want TAWWN to put me at L-1 and dabuz to hammer.

 

[S-Tier]

So much for deleting your Role PM?

No I really did do that haha. I wanted the mod to send it to me so I could see if I could make up a name with what he had given me. I couldn't think of anything that would fit the moderator of AiB though.

Next point of issue: Why did you come up with the dreamer ****?

To lynch J of course.

 

[The Account With No Name]

You came up with dreamer because you knew your case on J wasn't adequate to warrant a lynch???

 

[The Account With No Name]

EBWOP: Don't worry about us voting, we (or at least my half) still doesn't believe you're scum.

 

[S-Tier]

No, I did it because I knew that dabuz was going to be lynched. Where as I want J lynched.

After doing all this though there is a lot more on J than I thought.

 

[The Account With No Name]

Yeah, your gambit claim didn't exactly get J lynched, but J has been looked at, and a lot has been found that still make him look like he could easily be indy. I'm back at where I was before, deciding who to lynch between Dabuz or J. I'd still be more inclined to go with Dabuz, considering also the fact that he's been laying low ever since he was pressured, as to avoid any more looking at him.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Wow low blows Zen, I know it sucks getting lynched but for you to be all 'Glyph wouldn't get this cuz he dumb' is just silly.

 

[S-Tier]

Yeah gonna go out of character here. The persona is getting a bit boring anyway. Don't take my arrogance this game seriously. It's just the character I chose to get into this game. Especially at my last few posts at you Gorf. While you're logic is incredibly bad, I still understand how your thought came to be. Me acting like you guys are ******** is just a form of AtE.

 

[Inferno3044]

Unvote

I have to rethink some things and also being nice to S-Tier for now.

Hey so random question because my memory sucks: Did Spidermang or Soup claim?

 

[zapp brannigan]

Stier are you really what you CLAIM to be?

We had a hunch but we can't really confirm you if that is what you are.

 

[S-Tier]

Oh do you mean like am I cop or something? Nah I'm not.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Oh ok. Yeah can't confirm ya then sowwy.

Inferno: Yeah both Spidey and Soup claimed.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Don't really care about either your thoughts or Glyph's thoughts Inferno. The way you guys think is not in reach of being helped. Only care about AM and Zapp.

Don't care bout being. Waiting for Zapp to confirm me as town.

This depends on whether you actually crumbed what I think you did. Ran actually found it, so props to him. I can understand why you wouldn't want to claim, however if you do, understand that we have info that confirms (what we think to be) your role, and would happily die to prove it. (Ofc, we don't want to be lynched and think our word should be enough for Town, but if it was absolutely neccesary).

So yeah Zen, if you're what we think you are, just full claim. There isn't much of a downside to this at this stage, and we got your back.

Of course, what Ran picked up might not actually be a crumb... in which case this would be quite an awkward coincidence lol. If that's the case, I guess we can't clear you then.

 

[The Account With No Name]

You were doing okay with that post, Zappy, but then completely killed the eintire thing with WIFOM at the end. =(

 

[The Account With No Name]

@Mod - fix the thread title? I keep thinking it's D2.

 

[zapp brannigan]

Tawn it is better we keep it hidden unless he full claims basically.if he really is vt it is nothin to worry about

 

[zapp brannigan]

If you could confirm something to me like that then I would have to begrudgingly back-off because I have a vibe about you. Regardless, I would go probably looking into Glyph because of the way he is being like "Look this plan is fool-proof by following Zen." and trying to position himself in a way where he isn't scum-hunting but trying to be logical. He is following someone he had a scum-read on and it's annoying as hell that he feels he can get away with it. His last post is terrible because he says things like "We KNOW scum is." when the real fact of the matter is we do not know anything at all yet he is acting as if the claim is 100%.

I will never lynch AM/Zapp/Inferno. TAWNN is looking ugly with this recent stuff but I still have a pretty solid town-read from his earlier posts. Swiss is completely null so I would like more attention onto him. Dabuz I still believe is town and I do not get the scum-vibes on him.

K. I appreciate it.

Speaking of, Vandy, you never brought up any of my other actions in the game but only what had happened D1 and even then you didn't even analyze everything but just tack on fluffy comments to things besides saying that I disagreed with your Zen read. You also say I tried to deter the Soup~ wagon? Are you insane? I was re-looking at everything and even re-read the game. I wanted Soup from the beginning and was double checking because the day went extremely fast and I was the only one taking the time to actually do things.

I quoted your entire Day 2 play, because that was what bothered me.

Yes, there are fluffy comments on the stuff that isn't relevant to the point I'm making, but that's because I'm presenting your entire day 2 play as a whole. I'm not saying you didn't look at other avenues on Day 2, but I am saying that the bulk of your play was a push on S-Tier, and one that I heavily disagreed upon. I agreed with some of the stuff you said, which I pointed out.

I didn't mean to exclusively say you were trying to derail the Soup wagon, however I thought it was VERY hypocritical to call Zen out on doing that (when as I said, he wasn't trying to derail the Soup wagon at all), when you spent a good portion of the day arguing that Zen was scum and that we should lynch him.

Your case on Zen that day was bad to the point where I'm not sure what the underpinning scum tell/motive you're accusing him of is. You did a summary, but I didn't agree with the points you were making (e.g. trying to derail the Soup lynch, being fake) which I responded to. From my p.o.v. your case is that Zen isn't fitting some pre-concieved meta you have on him.

I know you're V/LA, but I'd appreciate it if you look back at my 1831 or whatever number post it was, and not just label it as me taking a small portion of your play and attacking everything you said at zen, because it wasn't at all an attempt to discredit you. I seriously do not see scum zen the way you seem to.

I say with 99.99% confidence that he isn't scum with Soup/Spider. So if he's scum it's because he's an indy. Show me how he's an indy then. How is he trying to set himself up to win/what is his grand plan/what is his scummy agenda? Explain this because I don't see how he's played methodical or even tried to put himself in a good position this game.

On another note, this lyncher stuff is completely ********. Why the **** are people suggesting "Hey let's lynch someone to see if they're a lyncher, and if they're not, then we can go back and find scum!" wtfamireading.jpg

 

[zapp brannigan]

Sorry if any of that doesn't make sense. I've had a few apples, so to speak.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

On another note, this lyncher stuff is completely ********. Why the **** are people suggesting "Hey let's lynch someone to see if they're a lyncher, and if they're not, then we can go back and find scum!" wtfamireading.jpg

No. You're too wrapped around your possible 100% town read on Zen, and can't possibly see the idea of him being lyncher, which by his play is all likely, which is proven by the reception of the idea. Don't get me wrong I'll go J if that's absolutely what town wants, but going Zen is definitely the SAFER route at this point.

 

[S-Tier]

No. You're too wrapped around your possible 100% town read on Zen, and can't possibly see the idea of him being lyncher, which by his play is all likely, which is proven by the reception of the idea. Don't get me wrong I'll go J if that's absolutely what town wants, but going Zen is definitely the SAFER route at this point.

Has Laundry been on since you suggested this? You're not even thinking anymore. And I notice you do this a lot once you set your mind on something. Stop being lazy and actually analyze me rather than just think of this possibility and lynch because. You did this same think in DK where you just got lazy and started lynching whoever because of speculation without actually analyzing those people.

 

[S-Tier]

Zapp nah VT is my truthful role. And I'm sure that's why Inferno unvoted me because of #1895. Whoever else is VT should realize this too.

 

[S-Tier]

Oh nevermind forgot there was sample pm. Anyways why is no one looking at the J cases? This is dumb.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Has Laundry been on since you suggested this? You're not even thinking anymore. And I notice you do this a lot once you set your mind on something. Stop being lazy and actually analyze me rather than just think of this possibility and lynch because. You did this same think in DK where you just got lazy and started lynching whoever because of speculation without actually analyzing those people.

You've gauged me.

Unvote

I'll look over things and talk to Laundry, and get back @ this game.