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Ryker Mafia Is Over: Ryker Always Wins

Gova

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2. dtjglyphmoney (1) Dabuz
3. AM ()
4. The Account With No Name ()
7. Inferno ()
8. giraffelasergun ()
9. Dabunz (5) AM, S-Tier, Glyph, Zapp, TAWNN
10. J ()
11. Zapp Brannigan ()
12. S-Tier (1) Inferno
13. Swiss ()

Not voting - GLG, Swiss, J

With 10 playing, it takes 6 to lynch!

Deadline is set for April 25th at 11:59 CST (GMT-6).
 

DtJ Glyphmoney

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Also if you knew Ryker, you'd see what Dabuz was up to. Though his methods are incredibly baffling. Like trying to count to infinity.
 

#HBC | J

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For the love of Christ the game just opened today and over 3 pages of just pure garbage?

This poetry is annoying as **** to read and TBH would be willing to get rid of just due to the pure nature of dabuz during his wagon. However, in my notes from yesterDay I have dabuz as a town-lean, though I believe I am the only one with said read.

Anyways I'm still on my V/LA so no time for actual stuff but you guys have enough ravaging people that would kindly vote dabuz out but I personally don't think that is the way I would like to go.
 

S-Tier

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Hm? what do you mean you're not buying it? What do you think my reasoning was then? Oh you think I'm scumbuddies with Soup?

Sidenote: There's an infinite amount of roles in mafia so long as you have the ability to create.
So yeah what point are you trying to make here?
It's not an opinion. You accused Spidey of a fake line of questioning, but there was nothing wrong with the logic of him asking Swiss those questions. It's not opinion. You're reasoning is flawed. That's all there is to it.
Why did you say that you will get to it later instead of just answering it. Did you ever answer it later? And what was the reasoning for not answering it the first time?

You're making useless posts like these when you know what I mean. You've been doing this a lot this game. (You spelled Ryu wrong, Swiss where are you, JTB is alive?)

See above.
For one you unnecessarily didn't trust that I was day cop. It would have been natural for someone who hasn't played with me much before to assume that I was telling the truth like Guus did. Yet you didn't. Furthermore you were making spiderwebed lynch choices (JTB flips town then we lynch S-tier). Two townies in the bag for you. Don't get me wrong, connection lynches are fine. This wasn't a connection though since it would have nothing to do with us being scumbuddies. The only time you should assume that someone else is scum based on the specific event that someone else flips town is when they are counter claims.
You were disagreeing on the read for no reason. You haven't battled against someone elses read like this ever before. You were just trying to get some interaction in with Spidey and Soupa.

As for the second part:
<>You vote J
<>I say his wagon aint happening
<>You vote JTB
<>JTB claims and we switch the wagon to J
<>You unvote instead of voting J

You see how this is inconsistent. It shows that you didn't have a true scumhunting process. Rather that you were attempting to blend in. If you were truly had J as your top choice and the only thing keeping you from voting him in the first place was not enough people to lynch him, then you would have switched to him once there were enough people. But you didn't because your read was fake in the first place.
Reasoning on J being his buddy at that time is because I think Spidey wanted his partners to bus him since he didn't want to play the game and I felt J coming in on Spidey all the suggested that. Don't know if they are buddies though, just that J is scum.
dabuz respond to this post.
 
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Isn't it a town tell that I keep a consistent opinion regarding Spidey, even if it isn't the best of opinions?



Ok? I re-read and decided that I don't mind seeing him go.



Where is the connection that shows me busing either of them once the lynch was close to happening?

Or

Where am I hard defending either player and not the reasoning that surrounds them?
Let's see
Regarding Soup; after Spidey's scum flip, I looked back and saw lots of scummy distancing and connections between Soup and Spidey. I was going to make a post, then I saw Zap's 1203 and he pretty much said what I would have said wrt to the Soup-Spidey connections. I would vote Soup but IIRC he is at L-1 and it is too early in the day for a lynch.

@TAWNN: Your 1396 shows a lot of inability to understand any points I am making.
Oh, okay, thanks for explaining???


Pre-edit: WOW, I was busy compiling a whole post of justifying for myself why Dabuz should die but then I read his play the last few pages and I don't even need to do this :|
 

Dabuz

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S-Tier, I'll get to responding to that post later, I promise.

@TAWNN: Why would you even need to justify yourself more? You have already made it quite clear why you want me lynched. Why are you responding to something directed at ANOTHER PLAYER?
 

#HBC | J

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I really do not get Vandy's hard-on for Zen this game because it just seems pretty bull to me. It's like having an obv-town read on Swiss, how can you?
 

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*swoons*

Why dont you like it inferno?

:phone:
It might just be a personal thing, but I'm not a fan of people throwing their vote in every direction. I feel like voting is the clearest way of showing who you think is scum and where your head is. When someone's vote is repeatedly moving I see it as "Oh look at him he's real scummy. But wait so is he. What about that guy?" so on and so forth. I think it's just a personal thing is me though.
 

zapp brannigan

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J. You said you wanted to go a different direction today. Can you show me the direction you want to take and why?

Inferno. I got you. Personally I like vote hopping because it can help you get a read on more than one person. Here stier has shown who he suspects more than by vote, so your suspicion is moot, yet understandable.

Even tho you dont like his play, I would suggest you also look at someone else that you may suspect and get back at me.

:phone:
 

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So first of all GG DOC LOL PRO SCUM.

Wait, what? Wifom. Try harder

K.

I'm at work now, and tonight and tomorrow evenings. I'll catch up Saturday.

For now; Soup lynch was bad and I facepalmed at myself for not stopping it. Will be active after Saturday.

I will avenge.

Dislike: J, Alleg, Tier, Dabuz.

No name, Zapp - town.
 

Dabuz

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It matters because when the entire town dislikes me, it is nice to have someone who isn't ready to lynch ^^;

I did suspect J D1, however I suspect S-Tier more than J. Those two can't be on the same scum team when you look at their interactions, and since I still think S-Tier is scum, by PoE, J is town to me.
 

Inferno3044

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Inferno. I got you. Personally I like vote hopping because it can help you get a read on more than one person. Here stier has shown who he suspects more than by vote, so your suspicion is moot, yet understandable.

Even tho you dont like his play, I would suggest you also look at someone else that you may suspect and get back at me.

:phone:
Never thought of it like that. Might use it in other games. Anyways Zapp help me out a bit. Do you see a possible TvS between J and S-Tier? Overall I felt something weird between the two of them and I just thought S-Tier's play overall was scummier.

So first of all GG DOC LOL PRO SCUM.

Wait, what? Wifom. Try harder

K.

I'm at work now, and tonight and tomorrow evenings. I'll catch up Saturday.

For now; Soup lynch was bad and I facepalmed at myself for not stopping it. Will be active after Saturday.

I will avenge.

Dislike: J, Alleg, Tier, Dabuz.

No name, Zapp - town.
Wait wtf? Soup was scum. I wouldn't consider lynching scum twice in a row a bad thing. Please explain what you meant by the Soup lynch was bad.
 
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What? What are you laughing at here? You should answer the question. Scum.
I'm sorry, I usually don't feel like answering dumb questions. If we were only to point out and look at things directed at us, the game would be awfully bland. It only makes sense to look beyond your own slot. If no one has responded or pointed out something in a decent amount of time, don't expect me to ignore it as well.

Dabuz, your first question, kinda didn't see it, I was busy lolling at the last part, but the first question is a legit question.

It comes down to nothing more than me not being 100% certain of your lynch, I'm not a pro like Zen, so I tried to look at your previous play, to see if lynching you would be justified. Not that hard to understand is it?
 
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What? What are you laughing at here? You should answer the question. Scum.
Why do I hate your slot so much?

@dabuz Don't take TAWNN being an idiot as an advance to pursue him, looking like you're scumhunting. He's stupid for butting in, but he's town. Now. Are you going to do something with the game or are you going to sit around twiddling your thumbs, cuz this

dabuz said:
Right now I super agree with J's opinions on S-Tier and like how J doesn't suspect me of scum.
doesn't cut it.

dabuz said:
I did suspect J D1, however I suspect S-Tier more than J. Those two can't be on the same scum team when you look at their interactions, and since I still think S-Tier is scum, by PoE, J is town to me.
I'm sure you know by now that 13 man usually leads to 4 scum; 3 maf and 1 indy. Assuming this is what we're dealing with, do you think J and STier can be SvS? What leads to your conclusion? Enlighten me.
 

S-Tier

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It comes down to nothing more than me not being 100% certain of your lynch, I'm not a pro like Zen, so I tried to look at your previous play, to see if lynching you would be justified. Not that hard to understand is it?
If you were going to look for justification and then AM posted that justification why did you have to look for NEW justification?
 

S-Tier

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i got u son

In other news, I've decided we're lynching J today. I'll post why in just a bit. Zapp you should post what you have as well.
 

S-Tier

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My role is something like this: http://www.epicmafia.com/role/1208

epicmafia said:
Dreamer

Will have a dream each night.
The dream can tell a tale of 3 people, at least one of whom is mafia.
Alternatively, the dream can tell a tale of one person, who will be innocent.
Does not dream if visited at night.
Sided with the village.
Though now that I look at the EM one is a bit different.

N1 I got info about Zapp, J, an TAWNN.
N2 I got info about Laundry, Ryker, and Allegory.

Neither Laundry or Ryker are in this game so I'm thinking n2 was more of a flavor thing hence how it differs from the Epic Mafia role which is where I think Ryker got this from because they are so similar.

I just went look to see what my role was called, it was something unique (it wasn't dreamer), but I accidentally deleted the PM

@mod: Can you resend me my role pm?

I don't think either TAWNN or Zapp are scum, which is why I'm so sure J is scum. I had a bit of waffling that it could be TAWNN today, but his responses still seem pretty town to me. Guiltless responses is the best way to describe it.

Also the story I got last night talked about Allegory surviving death so I think he could have been the target of the night kill, but it also could have just been flavor/misinformation.
 
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