Rusty Guillotine Mafia | Ovah

[ranmaru]

So Smarg, if I'm scum in your pov, who would be my scum mate and why?

 

[smargaret]

I don't know; I haven't really thought about it because until your failclaim you hadn't been on my radar as scum. I'll have to go back to your "game-winning plan" and see what you posted before ccing, since anything after that was probably explicitly wifomy.

 

[ranmaru]

So you mean you haven't been paying attention to scum hunting?

What have you thought about?

Also, how will Ryker prove that he was visited by you? You said he would, yet this didn't happen.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ryker, please hold my hand till death in this game.

Done.

 

[smargaret]

I didn't think you were scum until you cc'd. So why would I have been looking for your scumbuddies prior to that? I was scumhunting, just not you.

Ryker can't prove that I visited him. But someone else can. However, I really don't think that's necessary at this point.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Also, how will Ryker prove that he was visited by you? You said he would, yet this didn't happen.

Not me, the reporter.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

2) You moronic piece of ****. If I can be cleared as the most suspected, that's pretty ****ing important. You suspect me anyway; with a counterclaim in place, then one of smargaret/Ranmaru MUST be scum. If I AM one of their partners, then I literally just told the Cop to investigate me in a scenario with no Godfather. Would it make you feel better if I said to lynch me no matter what if I show up as Not Home?

Work harder, lil' scum. Your scenario has more holes than Ran's claim. Why would you want to make our PRs useless as the likelihood of both making through the night and being unroleblocked is about the same as you flipping town? Answer: dumb scum.

 

[#HBC | J]

Heeeey Ryker.

W.r.t. July/Swords, which one is scum if Cello doesn't flip scum?

One of Ran/Smarg is lieing so that's one scummate down.

 

[ranmaru]

I didn't think you were scum until you cc'd. So why would I have been looking for your scumbuddies prior to that? I was scumhunting, just not you.

Ryker can't prove that I visited him. But someone else can. However, I really don't think that's necessary at this point.

Right, and I didn't think you were scum until you fakeclaimed. You said you had no scumpicks so you weren't scum hunting at all.

Really, why not?

 

[ranmaru]

J, if I were scum, who do you think would be my scum mates?

If Smarg were scum, who do you think would be her scum mates?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Heeeey Ryker.

W.r.t. July/Swords, which one is scum if Cello doesn't flip scum?

One of Ran/Smarg is lieing so that's one scummate down.

July. I hated Swords to begin with, passionately, but I think he's done a lot better since early D1.

I'm ACTUALLY kinda hesitant to lynch Ran right now because of just how easy it would be to fakeclaim Voyuer and just how absurd a CC would be for a scum. I see absolutely 0 motive for a non-town CC. I think I'm willing to simply let Ran off on being terrible at claiming. Smarg has been twice as scummy.

Unvote Vote Smarg

 

[#HBC | J]

Why are you just know trying to scum-hunt when all game all you have been doing is Advice Dogging?

Your scum-mate were to lie in Cello/July/Swords

Her scum-mate is to lie within Cello/July/Swords

 

[smargaret]

No, Ran, I did have scumpicks (Kevin, Cello, J). You being as confirmed scum as someone who hasn't flipped yet can be changes that. I have to reevaluate - would you WIFOM Kevin? Would J bus you like that? Would you bus Cello? What about July and Swords?

Your cc changed things.

 

[#HBC | J]

Hmmm,

so after Cello, you'll help me lynch July then Swords.

Kk I'll follow you a bit since you've been following me a bit.

Unvote
Vote: Smarg

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

No, Ran, I did have scumpicks (Kevin, Cello, J). You being as confirmed scum as someone who hasn't flipped yet can be changes that. I have to reevaluate - would you WIFOM Kevin? Would J bus you like that? Would you bus Cello? What about July and Swords?

Your cc changed things.

Why in seven hells would you say that two players were town and the rest were null tell if you had "scumpicks"?

 

[smargaret]

... Ryker, if I didn't know you were town ...

Being bad at claiming doesn't explain why, if he thought KevM was out of bed last night, he didn't attack him today.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Hmmm,

so after Cello, you'll help me lynch July then Swords.

Kk I'll follow you a bit since you've been following me a bit.

Unvote
Vote: Smarg

That is exactly the lynch order I would buy into atm, but we can look back into July and Swords when the time comes to make sure it's right.

 

[ranmaru]

Because I would have an extra day and I have to get Smarg lynched. Now I know she is scum.

 

[smargaret]

Ran: It looks like the only reason you're voting me is because I'm not hopping on the Cello wagon? How exactly does that make me scum? And I'm hardly giving him a free pass; the only time I said anything to that effect was day one and honestly, Cello is too strong a player to lynch day one. In fact, I'd make a case that Cello should always be the night 1 investigation target, because it is too important to have him as a cleared townie or as confirmed scum. If Cello continues his anti-town playstyle, I'd be happy to see him lynched.

KevinM: Is still not voting anyone. Why not? Seriously, why not? There is no excuse for not voting right now, unless it's because you're scum trying to fly under the radar and not be on a mislynch.

J: I said yesterday that I believed one of J and GLG was scum; clearly it's not GLG. I'd be interested in seeing a J wagon. I think July has some good points, even if there is some confirmation bias in the case.

July and Ryker are town.

Everyone else is null.

Yeah. I said two players are town and the rest null. Those bolded bits don't exist.

Sorry I didn't do a fancy color-coded scum list for you.

 

[#HBC | J]

*nod nod*

However if we mislynch Smarg and it actually is Ran then we hit quite the road-bump.

Ah well it seems we have this game in the bag. If one of us dies during the night then the other will continue because it's like having two of the same people in the game.

All our reads are in sync. We are both town. It's simply marvelous.

 

[smargaret]

Ran's fakeclaim isn't even consistently fake, though.

 

[smargaret]

Also, what possible motivation does the town voyeur have for ending the day early? Why would hypothetical town-Ran want to be hammered before Gboy posts? There's plenty of scum motivation for that.

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah. I said two players are town and the rest null. Those bolded bits don't exist.

Sorry I didn't do a fancy color-coded scum list for you.

You never exactly stated that J and Kev were scum to you.

@J:

I know, but I wouldn't want people to think that Smarg was town and I was scum after lynching me, because I wouldn't be able to flip until another person was lynched.

 

[ranmaru]

Also, what possible motivation does the town voyeur have for ending the day early? Why would hypothetical town-Ran want to be hammered before Gboy posts? There's plenty of scum motivation for that.

It seems you didn't ask this before, when I was close to a lynch. Why not?

I wanted to flip, that is all. I just didn't focus on the mechanics. I thought it was normal, I joined this game to play this awesome setup.

 

[smargaret]

*headdesk* No, I didn't explicitly say "KevinM and J are scummy" because inference is something I learned about in fourth grade. I did say that I found their behavior to be scummy.

 

[smargaret]

I didn't ask that in those precise words, no. But I did keep asking why you were so eager to get hammered when you wouldn't flip and all you'd do is deny Gboy's input.

 

[July]

@Ryker and J: Why Smarg toDay exactly?? If reporter knows and can verify Smarg's claim, even if they don't explicit say it but do so with their vote...why would you choose Smarg to go toDay over Ran?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I say we just lynch both of them since one of them has to be scum. Sure we lose the voyeur but we already would of got half the scum team.

Either of you didn't happen to leave any breadcrumbs, did you?

 

[ranmaru]

No, I'm open to his input.

Ah, inference eh? So if you didn't say it, then I believe you didn't think they are scummy either.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

*nod nod*

However if we mislynch Smarg and it actually is Ran then we hit quite the road-bump.

Ah well it seems we have this game in the bag. If one of us dies during the night then the other will continue because it's like having two of the same people in the game.

All our reads are in sync. We are both town. It's simply marvelous.

Which is why I wouldn't mind seeing them continue for a bit.

We don't have it in the bag if we mislynch on either Smarg or Ran. And then mislynch on the remainder. What say you to lynching both of them one after another? It will be one guaranteed mislynch and one guaranteed scum lynch?

You've been great to have all game.

 

[ranmaru]

No, no breadcrumbs.

 

[smargaret]

nope. I suck at crumbing; I play mostly offsite where it's not standard - and often viewed as scummy - so I don't think to do it here.

 

[#HBC | J]

Wooooooow

-alot of town points for Swords.

@July: *shrug* Ask Ryker but that post is weird.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I say we just lynch both of them since one of them has to be scum. Sure we lose the voyeur but we already would of got half the scum team.

Either of you didn't happen to leave any breadcrumbs, did you?

Ninja'd me, but good ****.

 

[ranmaru]

Sure. Lynch me next then. Direct me to someone and I'll give my results tomMorow before I get lynched.

 

[#HBC | J]

Man I don't agree with killing the voyeur but hmmm.

I'm gonna think about it more.

 

[smargaret]

Same, but reversed.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

@Ryker and J: Why Smarg toDay exactly?? If reporter knows and can verify Smarg's claim, even if they don't explicit say it but do so with their vote...why would you choose Smarg to go toDay over Ran?

Just a matter of who I think is more scummy. Hitting the scum on the first day turns them into a goon on the guillotine. Meaning a roleblock doesn't occur.

Look, **** this. Joey has all but claimed reporter. Faking voyeur claim is as simple as saying you targeted me and found Joey looking.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Sure. Lynch me next then. Direct me to someone and I'll give my results tomMorow before I get lynched.

I'd rather not direct.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Just a matter of who I think is more scummy. Hitting the scum on the first day turns them into a goon on the guillotine. Meaning a roleblock doesn't occur.

Look, **** this. Joey has all but claimed reporter. Faking voyeur claim is as simple as saying you targeted me and found Joey looking.

EBWOP: Potentially doesn't occur.