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Rusty Guillotine Mafia | Ovah

smargaret

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So you're ignoring the terribad claim why? That doesn't add scumpoints in your opinion?
 

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I think others can understand that I might improvise.
 

#HBC | J

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9 (7 v 2)people after Gord's lynch

8 (6 v 2)people after the night.

Kay we have hypothetical Smarg on the guillotine.

Then we straight away after listening to Cello/July/Swords tell us why they aren't scum some more lynch Ran.

Smarg pops Mafia yaaaay us that puts us at.

7 (6 v 1)

Then we have just lynched Ran though

We still have this going on though.

6 (5 v 1)

Wow actually I am stopping the math here.

It is actually better to both lynch Ran/Smarg because it will give us the same amount of days to find out who their scum-buddy is.
 

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Just a matter of who I think is more scummy. Hitting the scum on the first day turns them into a goon on the guillotine. Meaning a roleblock doesn't occur.

Look, **** this. Joey has all but claimed reporter. Faking voyeur claim is as simple as saying you targeted me and found Joey looking.
Alright, so Joey is reporter, and if he saw the voyeur check you out then that means Ran has to be scum lying since Ran said he checked KevinM. Reporter can verify which one of these two stories is correct because both of them do not say they targeted you and found Joey looking. See?
 

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Ah, ok. So Smarg, why don't you try confirming like you said? Do you think it is necessary now? (It would take away confusion, since we don't get a flip till the next day)
 

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So you're ignoring the terribad claim why? That doesn't add scumpoints in your opinion?
Of course not. I'm also not ignoring the fact that you were on the lynchblock for a reason and you picked a damn safe claim.

Why are you purposely spouting bull****?
 

#HBC | J

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Just a matter of who I think is more scummy. Hitting the scum on the first day turns them into a goon on the guillotine. Meaning a roleblock doesn't occur.

Look, **** this. Joey has all but claimed reporter. Faking voyeur claim is as simple as saying you targeted me and found Joey looking.
THANK YOU for finally saying this.

Good god could he have been any more obvious and which is why Smarg's claim is the less believeable out of the two.
 

smargaret

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The reporter doesn't see who did what. He sees whether or not his target - Ryker - was out of bed.

I got a PM saying that the reporter targeted Ryker (paraphrased).
 

smargaret

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And it would be how easy for mafia, presumably having picked up on the same thing AND KNOWING WHAT THE OTHER ACTIONS WERE, pick somebody that nobody targeted?
 

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Alright, so Joey is reporter, and if he saw the voyeur check you out then that means Ran has to be scum lying since Ran said he checked KevinM. Reporter can verify which one of these two stories is correct because both of them do not say they targeted you and found Joey looking. See?
Reporter can clear me and say that I was at home. Reporter didn't target Smarg, so he can only say that the voyuer result was correct if Smarg was telling the truth. However, it's also correct that KevMo had no one target him because the Reporter and the scum kill are already spoken for.

tl;dr: Smarg is LYING when she says that reporter can clear her.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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THANK YOU for finally saying this.

Good god could he have been any more obvious and which is why Smarg's claim is the less believeable out of the two.
Someone had to. I was tired of dancing around it like a ******. MvP for posting it. I demand it.
 

smargaret

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The reporter can't clear me so much as confirm that I'm telling the truth about what I saw.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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And it would be how easy for mafia, presumably having picked up on the same thing AND KNOWING WHAT THE OTHER ACTIONS WERE, pick somebody that nobody targeted?
Why the **** does mafia night action matter? Voyeur can say, "Hey, mafia killed this guy." Big ****ing hooray. Voyeur is for confirming reporter claim which is too easy to fake at this point.
 

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You have GOT TO BE KIDDING

Ryker you're a god damn idiot and I don't even care that you're confirmed town to me. I hope you die tonight if I don't. It'll help the game in general so much.

J.... I'm putting you over Cello

July make sure that J gets lynched before you do please. It'll help town win easier :D
 

smargaret

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The mafia, after I claimed, knew exactly who went where. They could cc just as easily without having to say they watched you and saw the reporter.
 

July

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Reporter can clear me and say that I was at home. Reporter didn't target Smarg, so he can only say that the voyuer result was correct if Smarg was telling the truth. However, it's also correct that KevMo had no one target him because the Reporter and the scum kill are already spoken for.

tl;dr: Smarg is LYING when she says that reporter can clear her.
Ohhh kk, I understand; honestly between Ran's claim mixing up between voyeur/reporter I got confused as Smarg saying reporter could clear her I got confused, but thats a really good call.
 

#HBC | J

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Someone had to. I was tired of dancing around it like a ******. MvP for posting it. I demand it.
Boy I pointed that out first so MvP for me for saying it first.

However if town wins we deserve joint MvP.

Can't get too full of ourselves though.
 

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Ohhh kk, I understand; honestly between Ran's claim mixing up between voyeur/reporter I got confused as Smarg saying reporter could clear her I got confused, but thats a really good call.
Yet you never asked Smarg to go ahead and confirm when she said she could.
 

#HBC | J

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You have GOT TO BE KIDDING

Ryker you're a god damn idiot and I don't even care that you're confirmed town to me. I hope you die tonight if I don't. It'll help the game in general so much.

J.... I'm putting you over Cello

July make sure that J gets lynched before you do please. It'll help town win easier :D
Lmao do not blame Ryker at all.

It was too damn obvious from your first entry post into the Day. If the mafia did not catch on that you were the reporter than they are fools. You did that to yourself.

Also why do I need to go over Cello? Honestly it's cute that you say "It'll help town win easier." When in fact it will not.
 

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Are you all joking?

Ran has NO REASON TO LIE AT ALL WITH ANY ROLE HE HAS. He's definetly not telling the truth. He has no reason to lie as scum. He has no reason to lie as town. It's everything but a town move, though. If he doesn't get lynched and I have to live to the next day I'm subbing out. Seriously. This is the biggest BS move I've seen in a mafia game.
 

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It's not about me being reporter. It's about moving from Ran to smarg. idc if they know I'm reporter.

By the way I'm reporter.
 

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Day 1 ryker was being more active than most, so the fact that smarg would voyeur Ryker is pretty obvious.

Atleast Smarg's makes sense and doesn't say "KEVIN M ISN'T HOME"
 

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Are you all joking?

Ran has NO REASON TO LIE AT ALL WITH ANY ROLE HE HAS. He's definetly not telling the truth. He has no reason to lie as scum. He has no reason to lie as town. It's everything but a town move, though. If he doesn't get lynched and I have to live to the next day I'm subbing out. Seriously. This is the biggest BS move I've seen in a mafia game.
I'm getting lynched right after. I never lied.
 

smargaret

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No. You die first. Just in case you're the roleblocker, there's no sense giving the mafia your powers for another night.
 

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That's even worse.

Bunch of idiots. If you're going to play like that, then you literally have nothing to say to me after this game, and if you try to shove **** down my throat for my play, then I will literally ignore you for a week. This has to be the dumbest move I've seen any of you make. Seriously.

We have a limited number of mislynches. Lets keep as many townies off that guillotine as we can.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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The mafia, after I claimed, knew exactly who went where. They could cc just as easily without having to say they watched you and saw the reporter.
Why would they CC? Why would they GIVE us a confirmed scum out of two people. We're GOING to end up lynching you both one after another to guarantee we don't lose the game.

Smarg, I get that you never flat out said he could confirm you. That is for confused people like July's benefit.

Joey, I love you. I really do (no homo), but you're not seeing the whole picture.
 

#HBC | J

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Joey, why don't you try and persuade us to only lynch one instead of both then instead of calling us all idiots.

Smarg should go toDay.
 

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smargaret couldn't have known who the Reporter targeted unless she was telling the truth. There is no reason to believe that she would have attempted to guess who the Reporter targeted, except as a ploy to out the Reporter.

Even then, that doesn't make any sense. smargaret didn't have her vote on me when Town adopted a "it's Cello or smargaret" mentality. A claim that you KNOW is going to be counterclaimed is a last resort, a move made in desperation. She would have had a fairly reasonable alternate target in me; if she were scum, why not at least try to get me lynched first?
 

smargaret

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I think his point is that should you lynch Ranscum today, it won't be necessary to lynch me.
 

#HBC | J

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Note,

that is kindof relevant to why Smarg could fake-claim Voyeur cuz she suspected Joey was the Reporter for his fail crumbing and his target.

Plus Smarg keeps saying, "No lynch ran and then I only become a possibility later!" Mentality while Ran is like, "Meh I'm good with both of us going."

My god lynch her ***.
 
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