Roy or Marth?

[ALZAUARTIS]

This a compare between roy and Marth
Marth is much faster than Roy and he also got 2 spikes and roy has 2 too
Roy is stronger than marth but marth has better reaction time
Roy's counter is much stronger than Marths but it has much greater reaction time
Moreover Marth's aerials are kinda better.


Who do u think is the best?

 

[kennypoopoo]

I believe roy actually has 2 spikes hes forward b on the 3rd strike can spike as well as his dair but it has to hit near the top of his sword for that and im pretty sure its fairly weak as well

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

Roy is weaker than Marth. In terms of gameplay, you actually have to play roy fast and focus on his weak shffl aerials.

These threads fail.

 

[Corax]

Heres my opinion of the comparison

Marth-
+Tipped attacks stronger than Roys
+ initial frames of dash are longer (check me on this)
+ better grab range
+ one meteor and one spike
+Aerials are far stronger
+ floatier
+awesome edge guard
- predictable recovery
- no projectile

Roy-
+ Larger tipper range near the hilt of his sword
+ heavier
+ Up B has alot of priority which helps... I guess
+ better counter
+ rattle off shffls faster
+ one shot jiggly puffs
+ two meteors
- easy to juggle around
- no projectile
- weaker aerials
- weaker fsmash (if both of them are tipped, Marth's is way stronger)
- weaker edge guard than marth's
- Reach of sword is smaller (I'm comparing fairs here so I might be wrong, but i do know marth's is far more useful for comboing)

I feel like I'm forgetting a few things here....

 

[lain]

roy sucks compared to marth.

gg.

 

[Black Waltz]

every aspect of marth is better than roy.

 

[NF Alex]

Roy is better HE HAS ****ING FIRE LALSLOAOLDKAD




Obviously Marth, you'd have to be ******** to think Roy is better.

 

[FrostByte]

Roy's aerials feel like paper.

 

[Retroking2000]

the sword weighs him down too much he cant recover he cant do multiple air attacks in single jumps and hes slow the only advantage is that because of that heavy sword it adds lots of power he is like a ganadorf marth so to speak

 

[darkshy]

Sadly we can't all be NEO. I enjoy playing Roy once in a while, but when it comes down to brass tax Marth is better.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Roy is actually LIGHTER than Marth, he just fall's faster making him easier to juggle. His sweet spot is also ridiculously short ranged and if you don't hit with it your essentially hitting with a paper fan that has no hitstun. Roy's recovery is also significantly worse than Marth's as he's not as floaty as marth and his Up B is much more predictable. He's also limited in kill moves as he has to rely heavily on Fsmash and Neutral B for kills.

Marth on the other hand has the most ******** range in the game, his attacks are strong even if you miss the sweet spot and his Fsmash can kill at very low percents if you sweet spot it. His grab game is almost more broken than Shiek's as his grab range is so huge. His aerials combo amazingly well and even his tilts can be killers as utilt sweetspot has a huge amount of knock back and Dtilt is a semi spike. His recovery is actually pretty good, although still a little predictable if you don't have your second jump.

All in all, its pretty obvious that Marth is significantly better than Roy.

 

[Professor Pro]

every aspect of marth is better than roy.

Roy's counter is better.

 

[Zankoku]

Only if you ignore the fact that Roy's has a longer startup time and lasts about half as long as Marth's but has as long of an animation, leaving you a lot more vulnerable.

 

[Teczer0]

I think Roy's counter feels very similar to marth's anyway and it does have different properties (I sometimes get a weird glitchy thing where roy's counter makes people travel in a upside down V)

Timing roy's counter isn't hard at all either I think Roy's counter is better *shrugs*.

Also marth is better unless you like play with a character that lights people on fire than roy is better.

 

[Black Waltz]

Roy's counter is better.

if youre lucky enough to pull off a nice counter on a smash attack, then its better, but riskier. marth's counter works wonders on a falco approaching with SHL and has less lag.

 

[abit_rusty]

Marth is statistically better.

I still like Roy more >.>

 

[Dark_Ness]

To be fair, apart from Roy's specials, his ever-so-combo-worthy d-tilt, and the fact he has fire, Marth eats Roy.

Reminder to n00bs: If you're going to spam about why Roy is "better than Marth," go to the Roy forums. >_>

 

[kry]

The fire part is enough to Roy worth playing.... kinda

 

[Insane-Contrast]

Marth is too good.

ROY
Good grab range
Nice dash dance lol
Ok edgeguarding
Counter can be uber
Uhm fire

MARTH
Runs pretty fast
The priority!
Fantastic range
Pretty long wavedash
The edgeguard god
CHAINGRAB ON FOX!!!! (and falco)
Combos are useful
Ken Combo of course

 

[Dragmire]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5P6UU6m3cqk


I laugh, but seriously use marth

 

[Mazaloth]

I think Roy's counter feels very similar to marth's anyway and it does have different properties (I sometimes get a weird glitchy thing where roy's counter makes people travel in a upside down V)

Timing roy's counter isn't hard at all either I think Roy's counter is better *shrugs*.

Also marth is better unless you like play with a character that lights people on fire than roy is better.

Roy's Counter is suppose to send people in a upside down V, it is exellent if you can get a counter on the edge of the map, becasue it is like a spike, but inflicts more damage, and make people stare in awe for a second.

However, Marths counter has less lag to it, unlike Roy's; which if you miss the counter, you are a sitting-duck.

 

[Ace83]

true, **** marth's counter lasts so long i've often anticipated someone countering, and when they do, i wait a second, and then fsmash (should have just grabbed in most cases), and it counters it! lol, probably because my first character i started out with was roy (whose counter is so short, yet powerful), and now roy is probably my 10th best character.

 

[Teczer0]

There were two entire pages of people saying marth is better than roy >_< its over marth is better than roy.

Its clear anyway since marths win a lot of tournies so it makes sense.

 

[Roy-Kun]

When is a one vs one, Marth.

Melees? Roy. Specially when Bowser and Ganondorf are around.

 

[AIDS]

This a compare between roy and Marth
Marth is much faster than Roy and he also got 2 spikes and roy has none
Roy is stronger than marth but marth has better reaction time

Who do u think is the best?

im sorry, this is so stupid
#1 marth has ONE SPIKE!
#2 This is the topic a noob would make, aswell who do you think is gunna win on the marth threads, Roy right? lol
#3 Marth is Faster and Stronger if you get a tip, marth can have as much, or more nock back then Roy
#4 this is just so stupid.....roy is such a dumb charecter!

 

[W.Jr]

Thats and eazy one marth, range owns all

 

[Fade016]

I think Roy's counter feels very similar to marth's anyway and it does have different properties (I sometimes get a weird glitchy thing where roy's counter makes people travel in a upside down V)

I do belive This is the Invisible Wall(celing more like it) glitch don't know how it works i just know when i play teams a lot this happens i like it when i hit them off the edge then the wall stops them then spikes them down lol.

No marth does have 2 spikes. One True spike and One meteor(the Third Strike of the dancing blade tilted Downwards spikes) Unless you were refering to only one True spike. Then I take back what i said.

 

[princetoma]

i think marth is far better, its sometimes really hard to shuffle aerials with roy. plus marth range is very nice. the counter may be really strong but you will get punish for it iuf you do it to often. specially against marth or any other character. XD.

 

[IrArby]

fooling aroud with Roy every once in a while is fun because he's different from marth while still somewhat familar. All in all though he definitely doesn't measure up to marth. If he did we'd all probably be posting in the roy forums about why hes better than marth and not the other way around. Marth just kicks *** that way. Having a short range sweetspot like roy just gets you grabbed and comboed. Marth has spacing while roy has ... counter-spacing?... space-consolidation maybe?

 

[Roman.]

Marth may be better statistically but Roy could be more of your style. Maybe you like having a character that falls a lot faster and doesn't have to rely on broken tippers and grabs. You're asking who is better and the easy answer is Marth. If you're asking to make up a decision of which to play as, that's just based on who leans more towards your style of play.

 

[ALZAUARTIS]

im sorry, this is so stupid
#1 marth has ONE SPIKE!
#2 This is the topic a noob would make, aswell who do you think is gunna win on the marth threads, Roy right? lol
#3 Marth is Faster and Stronger if you get a tip, marth can have as much, or more nock back then Roy
#4 this is just so stupid.....roy is such a dumb charecter!

Before posting better think.Marth has 2 spikes idiot noob.Roy has also 2 spikes.I wrote by mistake in my thread that he has none.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

This a compare between roy and Marth
Marth is much faster than Roy and he also got 2 spikes and roy has 2 too
Roy is stronger than marth but marth has better reaction time
Roy's counter is much stronger than Marths but it has much greater reaction time
Moreover Marth's aerials are kinda better.


Who do u think is the best?

- Spikes: Marths d-air is much more easier to connect. roy's d-air on the other hand requires precision.
for the dancing blade and the DED, they're both just meteors so they are practically useless (and not spikes) unless you use it in situations where your opponent doesn't expect it.
- Strength: If your talking about strength of sword hits, Roy is much more better and stronger with fsmashes than marth since it is good with close combat (effective for non-projectile spammers). If a Marth tips though, its a whole different story. IMO what gives marth and edge over roy is the ability of tips. which i think is why marth can take on fast fallers like fox and falco, and even floaties like peach and jigglypuff. Marth rules Roy in start-up lag, stringing combos, and ground speed.
- Countering: IMO Marth's is much more useful and situational against recovering fast fallers, and is faster than roy's. Marth's can be used when jumping off stage and disrupting recoveries of fox and falco, while roys can't, because of fast falling and late execution. Roy's can effectively be used with attacks with powerful knockback and high percentages. Marth? It can be good for stringing combos when possible, I guess.

Considering these, Marth would be the better of the two.

Wish I could add more, I'm probably wrong in these things anyway so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. These are all I can put that I think are true.

 

[Black Waltz]

Before posting better think.Marth has 2 spikes idiot noob.Roy has also 2 spikes.I wrote by mistake in my thread that he has none.

dont call people idiots if you yourself dont know what youre talking about. marth has ONE spike: the dair. the dancing blade 3rd down strike is a METEOR, not a SPIKE.
roy has NO SPIKES. he has two METEORS, but not SPIKES.
THINK BEFORE YOU POST.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Isn't Roy's Usmash a spike?

 

[kry]

a meteor is still a spike.. its just not a true spike.

i don't understand how an upsmash would be a spike.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

if you hit the tip of roy's u-smash it causes the opponent to go diagonally down, but its pretty weak though.

 

[orintemple]

This game has been out for 6 years and people still try to argue that Roy is better than Marth?

Marth is higher on the tier list, A LOT. I'm no "tiers are the word of God" person but its a pretty big difference between Marth and Roy's place.

Also, for those who don't get the difference between a spike and a meteor

Meteor: can be meteor canceled (jumped into to stop it from "spiking")
Spike: you can't escape it...

 

[ALZAUARTIS]

Imo marth is better for pros except neo

 

[ALZAUARTIS]

dont call people idiots if you yourself dont know what youre talking about. marth has ONE spike: the dair. the dancing blade 3rd down strike is a METEOR, not a SPIKE.
roy has NO SPIKES. he has two METEORS, but not SPIKES.
THINK BEFORE YOU POST.

Marth has 2 spikes.THINK BEFORE U POST

 

[Corax]

I think most of the people already said it, Marth has one spike (tipper dair) and one meteor (third hit of forward b). The difference between these two is that you can't cancel a the lag of being hit downward from a spike until the lag of the spike is over, while from a meteor you can use a meteor cancel to come back.
This means that an easy tipper dair from marth almost always equals a kill. In comparison a miraculous meteor dair from Roy (or a DED meteor) can be easily recvered from the moment you get sent downward. This also applies to marth's 3rd hit of his over b.