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ChronoBound

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I think Friday is going to be the update with the Pokemon character. We still have a ways to go unfortunately.

It will be fun to see whether Sakurai considers Mewtwo a veteran or a newcomer, assuming he gets confirmed.
 

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He's basically a returning veteran, I don't think he would categorize him as a newcomer.
The one thing I am almost certain Sakurai would want to show off about Mewtwo is his Mega Evolution that will likely be his Final Smash, and I think that would only be shown via a trailer.

Especially, considering Sakurai would likely want to tie something about Mewtwo with Pokemon X/Y.

However, who knows. We could end up with getting Mewtwo tonight, and Mewtwo's Final Smash on Friday.
 

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He's basically a returning veteran, I don't think he would categorize him as a newcomer.
I don't know. For someone as big as Mewtwo, if he's revealed, I think they will give him a video, similar to Sonic. After all, he is returning after not being in Brawl, so they should treat it as a big thing.

Besides, if Mewtwo is playable, I'm sure Sakurai knows that the fans want him to be revealed in a big way. Just sayin'.
 

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I don't know. For someone as big as Mewtwo, if he's revealed, I think they will give him a video, similar to Sonic. After all, he is returning after not being in Brawl, so they should treat it as a big thing.

Besides, if Mewtwo is playable, I'm sure Sakurai knows that the fans want him to be revealed in a big way. Just sayin'.
Just because he's a big and super wanted character doesn't mean he gets special treatment. Sonic got a trailer because he's 3rd party, which makes the job of getting him into the game a lot harder, and that's also why he warrants a trailer. Mewtwo is likely to be regarded as a simple 1st party returning veteran, which is exactly what he is. He might get a gameplay trailer similar to Sonic's if he's lucky, and that'd only be because he was cut in Brawl, nothing to do with how wanted he is. Dedede, Diddy Kong and Olimar didn't get special treatment over the likes of Lucas and Ike in Brawl either. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't be surprised or be upset if he doesn't get a trailer, since that's a pretty real possibility.

Mind you I'd love a Mewtwo trailer, but I'm not really expecting one.
 

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You can always resort to image editors if you want to make a roster image.
I might resort to this or make a decent looking roster on Sketchbook Pro from scratch.
You could theoretically run windows os via bootcamp, vmware, parallels, etc. I'm not sure if Wine will help out but it might be worth looking into.
I've tried wine and terminal but couldn't get it to work.
 

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Just because he's a big and super wanted character doesn't mean he gets special treatment. Sonic got a trailer because he's 3rd party, which makes the job of getting him into the game a lot harder, and that's also why he warrants a trailer. Mewtwo is likely to be regarded as a simple 1st party returning veteran, which is exactly what he is. He might get a gameplay trailer similar to Sonic's if he's lucky, and that'd only be because he was cut in Brawl, nothing to do with how wanted he is. Dedede, Diddy Kong and Olimar didn't get special treatment over the likes of Lucas and Ike in Brawl either. What I'm saying is that you shouldn't be surprised or be upset if he doesn't get a trailer, since that's a pretty real possibility.

Mind you I'd love a Mewtwo trailer, but I'm not really expecting one.
I'm just assuming they will give him a trailer similar to Sonic. Coming back to Smash after not being in Brawl is a pretty big deal, and I just believe Sakurai will take note of that.
 

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No need to debate. The wait is under two days away. Lets just wait and see.

Its going to be amazing to see Mewtwo confirmed (assuming it does happen).
 

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I think you guys are raising your expectations a little high anybody can be revealed mewtwo isnt the only important one from gen 6 so its really anybodies guess as too who will be revealed If somebody does get revealed that is but im sure they will...
 

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Best thing would be for both PT AND Mewtwo to be announced. Pokemon is THAT big of a deal anyway. (We got Mario and Bowser confirmed in the first trailer, anyway, right? :) It's only natural that the 2nd Nintendo power gets the same treatment).

Can't wait to see what PT's Final Smash is like... Will it be Triple Finish? Will it be Mega Charizard X/Y? Will it be another Poke? (unlikely) Will Blastoise and Venusaur take Squirtle's and Ivy's place? (kinda hope not, unless they evolve mid-game?)
So many questions... that I hope are answered on Friday. D:
 

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Best thing would be for both PT AND Mewtwo to be announced. Pokemon is THAT big of a deal anyway. (We got Mario and Bowser confirmed in the first trailer, anyway, right? :) It's only natural that the 2nd Nintendo power gets the same treatment).
I say either mewtwo and lucario or PT and jiggs get revealed just for that shock value.:chuckle:
 

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I say either mewtwo and lucario or PT and jiggs get revealed just for that shock value.:chuckle:
That, plus Peach + Toon Link + Sonic would be like... 7 veterans revealed under a month!

... That means veterans would be out of the way faster to make way for NEWCOMER reveals. :D

That's a lot of wishful thinking there, but it would be freaking insane to get a Pokemon-centric Trailer!
 

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That, plus Peach + Toon Link + Sonic would be like... 7 veterans revealed under a month!

... That means veterans would be out of the way faster to make way for NEWCOMER reveals. :D

That's a lot of wishful thinking there, but it would be freaking insane to get a Pokemon-centric Trailer!
I don't my body could take that much awesome and excitement I might explode if that happened...
 

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I would be cautious speculating overwhelmingly on Mewtwo being revealed, because there's always the chance he's being held off to save hype for later. Granted, pretty much everyone would prefer it to be him, but that doesn't dictate who gets shown.
 

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I still can"t get the roster maker working on my MacBook. My buyer's remorse.:urg:
??? Roster maker is written in Java, which is cross platform. Do you have Java installed?

Edit: Try pasting this into a .sh file:
java -jar "SSB_Roster_Maker.jar"

Run that and see if it works? It's what I have to do on Ubuntu.
 

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Especially, considering Sakurai would likely want to tie something about Mewtwo with Pokemon X/Y.

However, who knows. We could end up with getting Mewtwo tonight, and Mewtwo's Final Smash on Friday.
The same thing could happen if Lucario is confirmed, or the Pokémon Trainer (via his Charizard).

Heck, Lucario getting that crappy Final Smash replaced would be pretty nice, especially since Mega Lucario looks amazing.
I would be cautious speculating overwhelmingly on Mewtwo being revealed, because there's always the chance he's being held off to save hype for later. Granted, pretty much everyone would prefer it to be him, but that doesn't dictate who gets shown.
My point is exactly. I'm not marketer, but I'd space out the release of Sonic and the next big character reveal. Maybe instead I'd show Lucario or Jigglypuff.

Still, the smash development team could be thinking of it like "strike while the iron is hot" in regards to having the most wanted character for Brawl being confirmed followed by the most wanted character not in Brawl confirmed.
 

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I'd like it to be Mewtwo. But it all depends on whether or not he's considered a newcomer or veteran. Based on the presumption that newcomers in general are getting revealed with trailer, then to me, it determines that we'll get newcomers at specific events and times, like Nintendo Directs. Not to mention, i'm sure Smash will get one of it's own.

If Mewtwo is considered a vet, I think it would make a lot of sense to include him, but it would make sense to include any of them really. Although, out of everything thus far, Fairy types seems to be the least "exciting" thing. This is why I don't see Jigglypuff getting revealed. They have Lucario, PKMN Trainer, and Mewtwo to reveal, and one of them imo would create more hype.

My guess? Anybody but Jigglypuff.
 

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I'd like it to be Mewtwo. But it all depends on whether or not he's considered a newcomer or veteran.
I think he'll be considered a veteran, but he'll be treated as a newcomer (kinda sorta like Sawnic, but moreso).

There is likely going to be a reveal video for Mewtwo like Sawnic's, albeit possibly made to induce more hype.

After all, no character was/is/will eve be wanted for Super Smash Bros. for the Wii U and for the 3DS that wasn't playable in Brawl quite as much as Mewtwo.
 

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A Pokemon character confirmation will happen. What's hard to predict is what Pokemon character will be used.

True, but after how much Game Freak is pushing Mewtwo in X & Y along with the new movie, he seems the most likely one to be revealed in my opinion.
 

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Let's not spark more Fire Emblem debate now kiddies. Nobody wants that :troll: (although, I myself being a supporter of Roy don't think he'll get one. Unless Sakurai views Roy and Mewtwo as two peas in a pod and regards them very highly.)

Anyway, first question is, what happens in the off chance we don't get a Pokemon character?

Secondly, after this reveal, who gets revealed next?
 

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Technically Roy's fire isn't just a visual effect. At least not for his Upward Special, Upward Smash, and Forward Special.

Secondly, after this reveal, who gets revealed next?
No offense, I know we hate talking about Fire Emblem, but this is the most boring subject that has ever been discussed on this thread. :tired:
 

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Let's not spark more Fire Emblem debate now kiddies. Nobody wants that :troll: (although, I myself being a supporter of Roy don't think he'll get one. Unless Sakurai views Roy and Mewtwo as two peas in a pod and regards them very highly.)

Anyway, first question is, what happens in the off chance we don't get a Pokemon character?

Secondly, after this reveal, who gets revealed next?

If we were to get another character other than a Pokemon, I'd say it would be Diddy Kong or Zelda. After that reveal, I could see Captain Falcon or Yoshi showing up.
 

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Unless Sakurai wants to unveil a DK newcomer instead, I really don't see Diddy being revealed until Feb with TF.
 

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Secondly, after this reveal, who gets revealed next?
I foresee after this forthcoming Pokémon character reveal that the next character is either Mario-related (Wario? Yoshi? A newcomer), Wii-related (basically just Miis), Zelda franchise related (probably Zelda herself), or a character with no games to promote but was in Melee and probably Smash 64 as well (Falco? Captain Falcon? Jigglypuff).
 

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Secondly, after this reveal, who gets revealed next?
Probably gonna be a November reveal, since Sonic is out of the way. It's up to anyone's guess on who it's going to be on the 12th November if they're keeping that trend (crossing fingers for C. Falcon because of F-Zero anniversary,) and I'm unsure if we'll get the Zelda reveal late November or early December.
 

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Probably gonna be a November reveal, since Sonic is out of the way. It's up to anyone's guess on who it's going to be on the 12th November if they're keeping that trend (crossing fingers for C. Falcon because of F-Zero anniversary,) and I'm unsure if we'll get the Zelda reveal late November or early December.
I'd like to see this. It's a better strategy to get most of the obvious veterans out of the way. Zelda and Captain Falcon are definitely hype worthy, but veterans with unknown status such as Ike, Falco, Wolf, etc... are more capable of producing excitement for the game imo.

Technically Roy's fire isn't just a visual effect. At least not for his Upward Special, Upward Smash, and Forward Special.



No offense, I know we hate talking about Fire Emblem, but this is the most boring subject that has ever been discussed on this thread. :tired:
Evidently not. Several people are replying to it. Diskun is more boring than this :troll:
 

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Unless Sakurai wants to unveil a DK newcomer instead, I really don't see Diddy being revealed until Feb with TF.
I'm hoping Diddy gets revealed this year so Dixie's reveal is during Tropical Freeze. From a marketing standpoint, Dixie is more of a face for Tropical Freeze than Diddy or KRool. Sure, Diddy is in the game, but Dixie's return is getting more attention.
 

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I'm hoping Diddy gets revealed this year so Dixie's reveal is during Tropical Freeze. From a marketing standpoint, Dixie is more of a face for Tropical Freeze than Diddy or KRool. Sure, Diddy is in the game, but Dixie's return is getting more attention.
Yeah, that's why I said unless Sakurai wants to unveil a DK newcomers instead. Though that does hinge on Dixie actually being included, which definitely could happen, but isn't a guarantee or anything. It also could hinge on whether Sakurai wants her to be a starter or hidden character, as he might not want new hidden characters revealed before release (other than 3rd parties). But yeah, it's a possibility.
 

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Unless Sakurai wants to unveil a DK newcomer instead, I really don't see Diddy being revealed until Feb with TF.

Really? I dunno, having a newer character show up during the release of DKC:TF makes more sense to me. Though I suppose that would more so depend on which new DK character was added.
 
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