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Another buff I would like to see is one to a character that is always stuck in bottom. Link, he was always one of my favorite characters. I just want to be able to use him, maybe mid tier? Wait a minute, they already buffed Link in Brawl? They made Toon Link? AWWW YEAH.

I honestly wouldn't mind if they cut Link and kept Toon Link anymore. He is a lost cause.
 

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I got so burned with the tripping system and the nanners that if it were up to me, I'd remove them entirely. >_< Tripping is the worst kind of legacy given to the future of Smash Bros.
The tripping system isn't bad, it's just the random tripping kills it. I mean, the worst thing about tripping is that it seems right after you get naner'd you have a tendency to trip a lot more than usual.
That said... if they rework the mechanics you mentioned, it'll be the greater good for the rest of the cast entirely.. But I still think they have to rework that move. No item spawned by a character should stay too long on the stage. ROB's gyro included (saying this as a ROB main)
Again, Project M did that one right.
Another thing I want gone is Snake's "Grenade Forcefield". This, I sadly don't see getting fixed. Unless the Grenade is automatically thrown instead of held.
I think since Snaking isn't going to return in all likelihood, this won't be too big of a problem. I also think Grenades won't be in any way a kill move of any sort.
 

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Anyone think Sakurai could throw a curveball and give us a non-Pokemon character instead?
Why would he reveal a character from anything but Pokemon on the day before X/Y's release?

It's either going to be Pokemon on Friday or nothing.

@N3on Sorry, misread your post. Btw, Nice Harley avatar.
No problem. And thanks. ;)
 

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I think you are forgetting about our puffy pink friend. You know... the one that went from Top to Bottom?
You right, she needs more umph in that ole PWANG move. And a massive Sing buff. Or just plain remove Sing.
But Roy already got a trailer. :troll:
SEE! This trailer right there got me so hype for Roy again! Just hearing the dude and seeing him play after not appearing in Brawl is such a great feeling. So you're telling me some people wouldn't appreciate him being back? I personally just got even more hopeful for his return.

The guy is a lot more than a Marth clone w/ fire even if he is not extremely important relative to Marth or Ike. But the guy helped make FE popular over here. Roy made people wanna play FE. Most Melee players enjoyed playing as him and liked him more than Marth (ya know, the ones who didn't care about the tier list, IE everyone but the hardcore crowd). Roy did a lot for the FE series through Smash and really I think should be back.
 

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Why would he reveal a character from anything but Pokemon on the day before X/Y's release?

It's either going to be Pokemon on Friday or nothing.



No problem. And thanks. ;)
I don't know. I wouldn't lose hope until Monday. He might just want to reveal the Pokemon after the game launches.
 

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So far reveals have been either Thursday/Friday right? It only makes sense to ride the hype wave before the launch of the game. Friday is my bet.
I am thinking that Pokemon might be a special circumstance. I am not betting against Friday, I just think that all hope isn't lost until Monday. Pokemon hardly needs the cross promotion. That is just my opinion I suppose.
 

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Why would he reveal a character from anything but Pokemon on the day before X/Y's release?

It's either going to be Pokemon on Friday or nothing.



No problem. And thanks. ;)
...because it's called a curveball? He could easily troll us and give us someone else instead or pull a Sonic and reveal someone earlier than expected.
 

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I am thinking that Pokemon might be a special circumstance. I am not betting against Friday, I just think that all hope isn't lost until Monday. Pokemon hardly needs the cross promotion. That is just my opinion I suppose.

Well of course if we don't get it this week, it'll be next Monday. But its almost basically guaranteed that it is coming soon. :)

Although the really "meh" pics this week so far lead me to believe its this week, maybe even tomorrow with a pic update Friday

Sonic was on Tuesday...

That was a Nintendo Direct. A special circumstance.
 

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I think what's more important is that all promotional reveals have been before the game came out, I don't see why Pokemon would be in a different situation. Even if X/Y is going to be bigger than any of the other games promoted so far, I don't see why Nintendo would deviate from precedent.
 

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Well of course if we don't get it this week, it'll be next Monday. But its almost basically guaranteed that it is coming soon. :)

Although the really "meh" pics this week so far lead me to believe its this week hahsa Maybe even tomorrow with a pic update Friday!
Yeah, they aren't really showing off Sonic. They are pretty meh. I am just hoping that Pokemon Trainer isn't finished, or they replaced him with Charizard. That way I get my precious Jigglypuff!
 

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Pokemon? I'm more excited for the release of Legendary Collection 4 on Friday ($10 to whoever knows what I'm talking about).

Honestly though I feel like Thurs/Fri is going to be a Pokemon character reveal. There's no way there wouldn't be one around this release, regardless of the fact that Pokemon hardly needs more promotion.
 

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The fact the banner is down is making really impatient to see which pokemon it is. I highly doubt it will be Poke Trainer.
 

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...because it's called a curveball? He could easily troll us and give us someone else instead or pull a Sonic and reveal someone earlier than expected.
Just because it'd be a curveball, something I don't disagree with you on, doesn't mean there's any chance of it happening. Sakurai is unpredictable, but he's not counter-productive, which revealing any character other than a Pokemon would be on the exact day a Pokemon reveal would be most warranted. Revealing another character would take away from X/Y (even if not to a great extent) while a Pokemon would add to X/Y's exposure. Sure it'd be a curveball, but that's a pretty detrimental option when he has the chance to benefit Pokemon. Plus, do you think it's Sakurai's idea to reveal all these characters for promotional purposes? Obviously he's given it the ok, but it's clearly Nintendo's doing, and they're going to want to promote X/Y instead of revealing a random character. That much is pretty obvious.

Lastly, Sonic was only revealed so early because it coincided with the Direct. If the Direct was later this month, he would've been saved til then, but Directs obviously get priority for reveals because of the drastic increase in viewership when compared to DOJO updates.
 

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SEE! This trailer right there got me so hype for Roy again! Just hearing the dude and seeing him play after not appearing in Brawl is such a great feeling. So you're telling me some people wouldn't appreciate him being back? I personally just got even more hopeful for his return.
Yeah, plus that video showed off a few new moves, despite the fact Roy has potential to clearly be even more unique than he already is in Project M.
 

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Sure it'd be a curveball, but that's a pretty detrimental option when he has the chance to benefit Pokemon. Plus, do you think it's Sakurai's idea to reveal all these characters for promotional purposes? Obviously he's given it the ok, but it's clearly Nintendo's doing, and they're going to want to promote X/Y instead of revealing a random character. That much is pretty obvious.

Character reveals coinciding with game launches are most certainly geared toward promotion.

Its going to be a character that they can put "Want to learn more about ______? Check out Pokemon XY"
 

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So far reveals have been either Thursday/Friday right? It only makes sense to ride the hype wave before the launch of the game. Friday is my bet.
The reveals of characters have all been on a Tuesday or a Thursday I think.

So Thursday is the safe bet for a reveal, with Friday being more of an "extended look."
 

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Sakurai is unpredictable, but he's not counter-productive, which revealing any character other than a Pokemon would be on the exact day a Pokemon reveal would be most warranted..
this

Sakurai may be unpredictable, but he's not random; there's a reason for everything he does
 

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@Oblivion: No. That would make no sense.

EDIT: Wow, a lot of posts before this one. I was talking about the Ivysaur only thing.
 

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Here is a potential situation. What if they show off one of PKMN trainer's Pokemon? Like, Just Ivysaur and Ivysaur pictures. "Challenger Approaching: Ivysaur"

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They would use Charizard. Some people already think that Charizard will replace Pokemon Trainer. Myself included. If I find out that Lucas, Wolf, and Jigglypuff got cut for Pokemon Trainer... I am done with the game. That is all I have to say. I don't think there will be any cuts though. I am just telling it like it is.
 

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this

Sakurai may be unpredictable, but he's not random; there's a reason for everything he does
He also tends to follow a few different patterns. While eventually he may break this pattern of promotional reveals, even before that he had reveal patterns pre-Melee and pre-Brawl.

It's kinda like how all of us "in the know" have knowledge that Sakurai adds about 3 newcomers (give or take 1 or 2) per smash game that are less than expected, but yet, when a unexpected character like The Ice Climbers, Snake, The Pokémon Trainer, or The Wii Fit Trainer are confirmed, people expect to see only unexpected characters from there on out.
 

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Here is a potential situation. What if they show off one of PKMN trainer's Pokemon? Like, Just Ivysaur and Ivysaur pictures. "Challenger Approaching: Ivysaur"

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YES! Because I only want to play as Ivysaur honestly, and would expect Squirtle and Charizard to come around at some point too.
 

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Some of you really like to use the word "troll" a lot, huh?
Even though it isn't supposed to be intentional.
 

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Here is a potential situation. What if they show off one of PKMN trainer's Pokemon? Like, Just Ivysaur and Ivysaur pictures. "Challenger Approaching: Ivysaur"

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Well he did it with Sheik and ZSS, so it's not impossible. But it's not going to happen, and even if it did he'd probably start with Charizard.

Character reveals coinciding with game launches are most certainly geared toward promotion.

Its going to be a character that they can put "Want to learn more about ______? Check out Pokemon XY"
Exactly.
 

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So far reveals have been either Thursday/Friday right? It only makes sense to ride the hype wave before the launch of the game. Friday is my bet.
Speaking of reveals for SSB4 another one i'm hoping for is for either ike or marth or both for that matter since they've been my favorite brawl characters to main.
 

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Yeah, plus that video showed off a few new moves, despite the fact Roy has potential to clearly be even more unique than he already is in Project M.
That's what I'm saying. If some Melee fans can make him stand out more from Marth, Sakurai can. I mean they even changed Marth's B a bit in Brawl meaning Roy can still have his epic charge up move and not be copying Marth. Roy's moveset potential is quite good; the fire really does add a lot more depth, regardless of those who complain it doesn't. It does, as Sakurai clearly thought so in Melee, hence his addition instead of some other FE lord to copy Marth.

Nintendo's (not Sakurai, seeing as there are little ads right below characters repping a game) obviously going to reveal a Pokemon next. Seriously why would they reveal anybody else. That just clashes with Pokemon hype if they released, say Ridley.
 

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Another buff I would like to see is one to a character that is always stuck in bottom. Link, he was always one of my favorite characters. I just want to be able to use him, maybe mid tier? Wait a minute, they already buffed Link in Brawl? They made Toon Link? AWWW YEAH.

I honestly wouldn't mind if they cut Link and kept Toon Link anymore. He is a lost cause.

It's sad really, considering the man is infamous for having a pouch that has unlimited inventory basically and the most badass weapons. I also think it really all stems from his recovery, and considering his recent games why he isn't allowed his long shot or double clawshot is beyond me. However, this is the Skyward Sword iteration likely so we'll see I guess? (My hopes aren't high, but I'd love for link to be a decent character.)
 

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That's what I'm saying. If some Melee fans can make him stand out more from Marth, Sakurai can. I mean they even changed Marth's B a bit in Brawl meaning Roy can still have his epic charge up move and not be copying Marth. Roy's moveset potential is quite good; the fire really does add a lot more depth, regardless of those who complain it doesn't. It does, as Sakurai clearly thought so in Melee, hence his addition instead of some other FE lord to copy Marth.

Nintendo's (not Sakurai, seeing as there are little ads right below characters repping a game) obviously going to reveal a Pokemon next. Seriously why would they reveal anybody else. That just clashes with Pokemon hype if they released, say Ridley.
Did you just suggest that Nintendo is the one pulling the strings? Not Sakurai. You are correct, but you might want to put up a Flame Shield. Most people around here view Sakurai as a god that can and will do anything he wants in Smash.
 

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It's sad really, considering the man is infamous for having a pouch that has unlimited inventory basically and the most badass weapons. I also think it really all stems from his recovery, and considering his recent games why he isn't allowed his long shot or double clawshot is beyond me. However, this is the Skyward Sword iteration likely so we'll see I guess? (My hopes aren't high, but I'd love for link to be a decent character.)



I'm sorry but it isn't "SS Link." It's Link. This design leans towards TP more anyway, as you can see by his bombs or bow & arrow. People think that because his color scheme got brighter, it makes him SS-designed, but that really isn't true.
 

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I'm sorry but it isn't "SS Link." It's Link. This design leans towards TP more anyway, as you can see by his bombs or bow & arrow. People think that because his color scheme got brighter, it makes him SS-designed, but that really isn't true.
I wish it was Skyward Sword Link. That is half the reason that I am not even going to bother attempting to main him again. I am just going straight for Toon Link this time. I am mostly salty because Zelda might still be TP Zelda. That would devastate me.
 

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Character reveals coinciding with game launches are most certainly geared toward promotion.

Its going to be a character that they can put "Want to learn more about ______? Check out Pokemon XY"
I agree. With that, I can only see Pokemon Trainer or Mewtwo as the best rep for Pokemon. They are the main parts of this release: the main character and the most hyped-for Pokemon.
 

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Did you just suggest that Nintendo is the one pulling the strings? Not Sakurai. You are correct, but you might want to put up a Flame Shield. Most people around here view Sakurai as a god that can and will do anything he wants in Smash.
I did. However I don't really need a flame shield when I have a good amount of people on here who aren't idiots and will help ward of the angry Sakurai is a god believers.
 

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Here is a potential situation. What if they show off one of PKMN trainer's Pokemon? Like, Just Ivysaur and Ivysaur pictures. "Challenger Approaching: Ivysaur"

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I'd be glad my favorite Pokemon Trainer Poke is revealed first. Then I'll wonder where in the name of hell is the rest.

I think you are forgetting about our puffy pink friend. You know... the one that went from Top to Bottom?
Jigglypuff is so bouncy she jumps up and down from tier to tier like Sonic in that one segment of Spring Yard.
 

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I wish it was Skyward Sword Link. That is half the reason that I am not even going to bother attempting to main him again. I am just going straight for Toon Link this time. I am mostly salty because Zelda might still be TP Zelda. That would devastate me.
I'd be okay with it. Helps further differentiate the Triforce Trio from the more cartoony versions of themselves by having a slightly more realistic or gritty tone to them. All in brighter primary colors of course.
 
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