Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

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Personally, I prefer the air.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Personally, I prefer the air.

I prefer your mom!

 

[Johnknight1]

Personally, I prefer the air.

Holder prefers the whippings to the lashings.

 

[Stompman]

I think Shulk is a shoo in for certain, but I feel Isaac can definitely fit as well, both characters have a very huge moveset potential. I feel Shulk could be a sword character, but with his Arts would be very different than Marth or Link. Isaac would wield a sword with his normal attacks, but has a wide variety of magic at his disposal for his specials.

They are both in my top ten wanted characters.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

His fault for looking like he has boobies.

Let's talk about Saki, guys.

I thought we were gonna talk about Marth. I mean....she wears a tiara

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I thought we were gonna talk about Marth. I mean....she wears a tiara

Marth has boobies though.

Small boobies though.

Really small....

 

[IsmaR]

Holder prefers the whippings to the lashings.

That's a funny way to spell Oasis.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I think there will be another one (I guess is what I am trying to happen).

I mean, hasn't there been 2 already=???

The thing about Pokémon is that it is so big, it could warrant like 6 different Nintendo Directs.

That is to say that a PokeRep will be revealed on a Pokemon Direct. We can't say for sure. However, if revealed on the site, I'd wager on Thursday or Friday. Sonic was kind of an exception. Most veterans have been revealed via the website.

You also have to take into account of the revealed character. If Mewtwo or a new PokeRep, then its highly possible it'll be a Direct.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Marth has boobies though.

Small boobies though.

Really small....

Hey now, Marth is very sensitive about his petite breast size.

 

[courte]

To Join [Even though nowadays it looks like you simply need a new game coming out to get on the roster/secure your return]
Kuma and Poo as [additional] Mother Reps if any of those guys even return.
Ridley and/or Weavel - Both representing the space Pirates. Kirby get's friends, but she can't bring her enemies [or any other important hunter]
Bowser Jr. and Paper Mario - Cute. As. Hell. Also paper Mario could bring Super Star mario's techniques with him, since kidee fun time mario won't be using them.
Hector/Lyndis/Not a new Blue Haired Sword Lord - Fire Emblem has a huge diverse cast of characters and types built up over the years who are beloved in their own games but never get to shine in a Smash. Isn't it about time?
Vaati - Magic Users are always fun in fighters when they aren't zoning out of the butt, and smash isn't your traditional fighter. Also who else is TLink gonna play
Girahim - Didn't play skyrim so right now he just looks like pure interesting to me. Also he seems the type to BRING HIS SWORD
Krystal with a staff - read: Krystal with a staff
Geno - lol yeah right Squeenix killed the squaresoft star

To Leave
Captain Falcon [Time for new blood. His legacy lies with Melee, don't piss on it]
Meta Knight and DeDeDe - After being broken and bloated, It'd be fair to make space for new blood. There was also that banned/chain grab/'braindead' debacle
P. Trainer - There are now over 700 pokemon. A new trainer or two, [even rival type] to give more Generations a chance to shine
Lucario - ...I have a bias towards a cool Mewtwo. I personally think Luc would have wrecked face much better in Melee's engine but thats something else
Ice Climber, G&W, R.O.B. - Nintendo has a ton of Retro characters who can and can't justify an movelist much less an appearance. IC had one game. I'm not saying include Balloon Fighter, but when you've got Samurai and Bikers waiting in the wings, why let your aging gamers down.
[aside from that, the allure of controlling two characters is and will always be boss. this alone is worthy of a spot, but aside from smash, nintendo should really do something new with these guys. No new metroid or f-zero, but new Donkey Kongs that don't touch Jungle Beat, and 8 Mario Games a year?!]
Yoshi - Always fighting the uphill battle with no Up-B. I personally think it's ok to retire Yoshi.You fought well.
Wario - A brawler if there ever was one
Jigglypuff - 700 Pokemon
Ganondorf - At least as he is now. Either be a wizard harry, or go home and get your shoeshine box... full of sword. go get your sword. It's your third appearance, you don't have to live in C.Falcon's Shadow anymore #PigPride

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I seen plenty of requests for Ghirahim in most Youtube videos involving most wanted newcomers.

The only time Sakurai takes popularity into account is when the character us already deserving and important. Giriham is not. Do you know how many idiots want ****ing Geno? Like A LOT! Geno is like the biggest joke character I've heard of.

I just finished Fire Emblem Awakening for the first time.

STOP TRYING TO GET THE THREAD LOCKED! I STONE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I'm just joking, was it good? Tell us about what Chrom does in the game in terms of moves)

 

[Reznor]

To Join [Even though nowadays it looks like you simply need a new game coming out to get on the roster/secure your return]
Kuma and Poo as [additional] Mother Reps if any of those guys even return.
Ridley and/or Weavel - Both representing the space Pirates. Kirby get's friends, but she can't bring her enemies [or any other important hunter]
Bowser Jr. and Paper Mario - Cute. As. Hell. Also paper Mario could bring Super Star mario's techniques with him, since kidee fun time mario won't be using them.
Hector/Lyndis/Not a new Blue Haired Sword Lord - Fire Emblem has a huge diverse cast of characters and types built up over the years who are beloved in their own games but never get to shine in a Smash. Isn't it about time?
Vaati - Magic Users are always fun in fighters when they aren't zoning out of the butt, and smash isn't your traditional fighter. Also who else is TLink gonna play
Girahim - Didn't play skyrim so right now he just looks like pure interesting to me. Also he seems the type to BRING HIS SWORD
Krystal with a staff - read: Krystal with a staff
Geno - lol yeah right Squeenix killed the squaresoft star

To Leave
Captain Falcon [Time for new blood. His legacy lies with Melee, don't piss on it]
Meta Knight and DeDeDe - After being broken and bloated, It'd be fair to make space for new blood. There was also that banned/chain grab/'braindead' debacle
P. Trainer - There are now over 700 pokemon. A new trainer or two, [even rival type] to give more Generations a chance to shine
Lucario - ...I have a bias towards a cool Mewtwo. I personally think Luc would have wrecked face much better in Melee's engine but thats something else
Ice Climber, G&W, R.O.B. - Nintendo has a ton of Retro characters who can and can't justify an movelist much less an appearance. IC had one game. I'm not saying include Balloon Fighter, but when you've got Samurai and Bikers waiting in the wings, why let your aging gamers down.
[aside from that, the allure of controlling two characters is and will always be boss. this alone is worthy of a spot, but aside from smash, nintendo should really do something new with these guys. No new metroid or f-zero, but new Donkey Kongs that don't touch Jungle Beat, and 8 Mario Games a year?!]
Yoshi - Always fighting the uphill battle with no Up-B. I personally think it's ok to retire Yoshi.You fought well.
Wario - A brawler if there ever was one
Jigglypuff - 700 Pokemon
Ganondorf - At least as he is now. Either be a wizard harry, or go home and get your shoeshine box... full of sword. go get your sword. It's your third appearance, you don't have to live in C.Falcon's Shadow anymore #PigPride

you had me going there for a second I thought this was for real

 

[TheLastJinjo]

To Join [Even though nowadays it looks like you simply need a new game coming out to get on the roster/secure your return]
Kuma and Poo as [additional] Mother Reps if any of those guys even return.
Ridley and/or Weavel - Both representing the space Pirates. Kirby get's friends, but she can't bring her enemies [or any other important hunter]
Bowser Jr. and Paper Mario - Cute. As. Hell. Also paper Mario could bring Super Star mario's techniques with him, since kidee fun time mario won't be using them.
Hector/Lyndis/Not a new Blue Haired Sword Lord - Fire Emblem has a huge diverse cast of characters and types built up over the years who are beloved in their own games but never get to shine in a Smash. Isn't it about time?
Vaati - Magic Users are always fun in fighters when they aren't zoning out of the butt, and smash isn't your traditional fighter. Also who else is TLink gonna play
Girahim - Didn't play skyrim so right now he just looks like pure interesting to me. Also he seems the type to BRING HIS SWORD
Krystal with a staff - read: Krystal with a staff
Geno - lol yeah right Squeenix killed the squaresoft star

To Leave
Captain Falcon [Time for new blood. His legacy lies with Melee, don't piss on it]
Meta Knight and DeDeDe - After being broken and bloated, It'd be fair to make space for new blood. There was also that banned/chain grab/'braindead' debacle
P. Trainer - There are now over 700 pokemon. A new trainer or two, [even rival type] to give more Generations a chance to shine
Lucario - ...I have a bias towards a cool Mewtwo. I personally think Luc would have wrecked face much better in Melee's engine but thats something else
Ice Climber, G&W, R.O.B. - Nintendo has a ton of Retro characters who can and can't justify an movelist much less an appearance. IC had one game. I'm not saying include Balloon Fighter, but when you've got Samurai and Bikers waiting in the wings, why let your aging gamers down.
[aside from that, the allure of controlling two characters is and will always be boss. this alone is worthy of a spot, but aside from smash, nintendo should really do something new with these guys. No new metroid or f-zero, but new Donkey Kongs that don't touch Jungle Beat, and 8 Mario Games a year?!]
Yoshi - Always fighting the uphill battle with no Up-B. I personally think it's ok to retire Yoshi.You fought well.
Wario - A brawler if there ever was one
Jigglypuff - 700 Pokemon
Ganondorf - At least as he is now. Either be a wizard harry, or go home and get your shoeshine box... full of sword. go get your sword. It's your third appearance, you don't have to live in C.Falcon's Shadow anymore #PigPride

 

[Johnknight1]

That's a funny way to spell Oasis.

Oasis takes a lot more abuse... and is forced to like it with a Smile.

That is to say that a PokeRep will be revealed on a Pokemon Direct. We can't say for sure. However, if revealed on the site, I'd wager on Thursday or Friday. Sonic was kind of an exception. Most veterans have been revealed via the website.

Eh, 2 of the 5 veterans have been confirmed in Directs (Luigi and Sonic), aka the 2 bigger reveals, two characters of which were assumed by many that they would still be hidden characters. Mewtwo, Jigglypuff, and Lucario certainly fit that billing.

You also have to take into account of the revealed character. If Mewtwo or a new PokeRep, then its highly possible it'll be a Direct.

If it is Mewtwo then it will definitely be on a Direct, and it will probably be accompanied by a trailer.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Here's an interesting topic

Sheriff or Diskun?

 

[Gune]

Here's an interesting topic

Sheriff or Diskun?

This feels awfully similar to a "Chrom or Roy?" question, In which case I choose or.

 

[Johnknight1]

Spoiler

To Join [Even though nowadays it looks like you simply need a new game coming out to get on the roster/secure your return]
Kuma and Poo as [additional] Mother Reps if any of those guys even return.
Ridley and/or Weavel - Both representing the space Pirates. Kirby get's friends, but she can't bring her enemies [or any other important hunter]
Bowser Jr. and Paper Mario - Cute. As. Hell. Also paper Mario could bring Super Star mario's techniques with him, since kidee fun time mario won't be using them.
Hector/Lyndis/Not a new Blue Haired Sword Lord - Fire Emblem has a huge diverse cast of characters and types built up over the years who are beloved in their own games but never get to shine in a Smash. Isn't it about time?
Vaati - Magic Users are always fun in fighters when they aren't zoning out of the butt, and smash isn't your traditional fighter. Also who else is TLink gonna play
Girahim - Didn't play skyrim so right now he just looks like pure interesting to me. Also he seems the type to BRING HIS SWORD
Krystal with a staff - read: Krystal with a staff
Geno - lol yeah right Squeenix killed the squaresoft star

To Leave
Captain Falcon [Time for new blood. His legacy lies with Melee, don't piss on it]
Meta Knight and DeDeDe - After being broken and bloated, It'd be fair to make space for new blood. There was also that banned/chain grab/'braindead' debacle
P. Trainer - There are now over 700 pokemon. A new trainer or two, [even rival type] to give more Generations a chance to shine
Lucario - ...I have a bias towards a cool Mewtwo. I personally think Luc would have wrecked face much better in Melee's engine but thats something else
Ice Climber, G&W, R.O.B. - Nintendo has a ton of Retro characters who can and can't justify an movelist much less an appearance. IC had one game. I'm not saying include Balloon Fighter, but when you've got Samurai and Bikers waiting in the wings, why let your aging gamers down.
[aside from that, the allure of controlling two characters is and will always be boss. this alone is worthy of a spot, but aside from smash, nintendo should really do something new with these guys. No new metroid or f-zero, but new Donkey Kongs that don't touch Jungle Beat, and 8 Mario Games a year?!]
Yoshi - Always fighting the uphill battle with no Up-B. I personally think it's ok to retire Yoshi.You fought well.
Wario - A brawler if there ever was one
Jigglypuff - 700 Pokemon
Ganondorf - At least as he is now. Either be a wizard harry, or go home and get your shoeshine box... full of sword. go get your sword. It's your third appearance, you don't have to live in C.Falcon's Shadow anymore #PigPride

 

[Onyx Oblivian]

Here's an interesting topic

Sheriff or Diskun?

Sheriff would fall under the lines of "retro character" while diskun would fall under the lines of "hardware character" I feel.

So I guess it would depend on who Sakurai is bringing in, a retro or hardware character haha

 

[courte]

https://vimeo.com/57509875

 

[Johnknight1]

Here's an interesting topic

Sheriff or Diskun?

Whoever the Smash development team decides would "mesh" with the roster the best, add the most to the roster, be the most unique, and be the most fun to play as.

So probably Sheriff (just because I know nothing about Diskun!).

 

[Ridley_Prime]

If Diskun were to be a character you should have to unlock him the same way you got him as a trophy in Melee.

 

[Deleted member]

Everyone knows that the best classic Nintendo rep is Bald Bull.

"But he was in the 2009 Punch-Out..."

"I'm Bald Bull! Do you think I give a ****?!"

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

If Diskun were to be a character you should have to unlock him the same way you got him as a trophy in Melee.

I think the hardest character to unlock should be Arceus, but this works too.

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[TheLastJinjo]

Maybe I should add Diskun some time. It would certainly make up for my recent lack of Starfy somewhat. (even though I will always think he's going to get in.)

 

[Autumn ♫]

[quote="SaturnGamer64, post: 15879479, member: 220470"Such as? Tell me something that has had such a big noticability as Project Rainfall
Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda? Heck, Pikmin might not have gotten in without a sequel. You can have huge notability, but you also have to make good history with Nintendo outside of being liked.


If it was so good, he would have gotten in in Brawl
Little Mac, Mewtwo, Mega Man, Ridley, Villager, Takamaru & Bowser Jr are all deconfirmed then. Did you notice that Brawl was on a time schedule and couldn't fit in a lot of characters. Do you expect Issac to get in over Wario, Meta Knight, King Dedede, Wolf, Diddy Kong, and the rest? If Ridley was so good I guess he would have been in Brawl, ammirite? Guess we ain't getting no Ridley.

but he didn't and Dark Dawn was the worst selling out of the 3 and Camelot isn't really thinking of making a new GoldenSun at the moment either, so I don't see much going for him since he's basicly where he was at or lower than during Brawl.

Meaning not that low. But, I guess because the game that came out 3 years ago wasn't THAT well recieved I guess Golden Sun is shunned from Nintendo history. Because we all know it's about how well received a game is.

since the other 2 are DLC, I see no problem in it.
Because why do they deserve to get in over other DLC?[/quote]
Sorry I took so long, I was in a Marching Contest with my band.

I said that Xenoblade is considered up there with Mario and Zelda some of the best acclaimed Wii games, so they don't really count

Almost all of those characters(with the exception of Megaman) have had increased importance after Brawl, Isaac has only lowered

I can't make sense of the 3rd one, mind repeating it in a different way please?

Other DLC can co-exhist, they don't have to be the only ones.

 

[Morbi]

Here's an interesting topic

Sheriff or Diskun?

Which one has the .44?

 

[IsmaR]

Everyone knows that the best classic Nintendo rep is Bald Bull.

"I'm Bald Bull! Do you think I give a ****?!"

He might not, but Mask-X sure does.

 

[Jaedrik]

https://vimeo.com/57509875

"Critically acclaimed" my behind!
Listen, I know music far better than most, and she messes up one, absolutely, crucial element in this song, one thing that destroys a large chunk of the meaning of that song.
In the music, in every proper and successful interpretation, when Fantine is recounting their summer courtship, she goes from Forte to Piano! That means she's wrong on the beginning, she's supposed to start strong, get soft and have a look of remembering those beautiful times, joy, then become strong, full, loud again and end that way (though sometimes a Subito Piano is put in the last few words with a Fermata). Don't get me wrong, she sung great, but the meaning is lost.
They failed wholesale to capture the intent of the sections of that piece in what I can only assume is an attempt to have a continuous crescendo to a climax and then diminuendo to the end.
Basically, the stage performance makes me cry, and this one doesn't

 

[courte]

It seems to me two things are apparent in all seriousness. The cross promotion is there, and it's heavy. This suggests that characters with newer games will have a better chance. Then again I could just be reading too far into things, and they're simply being not ***** by mentioning that a new Luigi/Sonic/Pokemon/Villager/Pikmin game is out. If there was any place for a nintendo character with a dead franchise to show up it's here, but as a playable character or as an assist trophy? This is also the place for a boatload of franchises to pop in as not River Phoenix reminded. No Takamaru, maybe a chance at Little Mac, oh look Ridley... exist. But all that remains is to wait and see.

 

[Morbi]

It seems to me two things are apparent in all seriousness. The cross promotion is there, and it's heavy. This suggests that characters with newer games will have a better chance. Then again I could just be reading too far into things, and they're simply being not ****s by mentioning that a new Luigi/Sonic/Pokemon/Villager/Pikmin game is out. If there was any place for a nintendo character with a dead franchise to show up it's here, but as a playable character or as an assist trophy? This is also the place for a boatload of franchises to pop in as not River Phoenix reminded. No Takamaru, maybe a chance at Little Mac, oh look Ridley... exist. But all that remains is to wait and see.

This is why I am hoping for a Yarn Yoshi redesign. Cross promotion love.

 

[courte]

It'd be great to let those beloved characters go then bring them back and change them up... That's what zombie Lui-Kang and the millions of Metta World Peace Ryu's on Mugen are for. Add some new blood if you're already working on number 4. make the 15 anniversary something really special!!

 

[Morbi]

"Critically acclaimed" my behind!
Listen, I know music far better than most, and she messes up one, absolutely, crucial element in this song, one thing that destroys a large chunk of the meaning of that song.
In the music, in every proper and successful interpretation, when Fantine is recounting their summer courtship, she goes from Forte to Piano! That means she's wrong on the beginning, she's supposed to start strong, get soft and have a look of remembering those beautiful times, joy, then become strong, full, loud again and end that way (though sometimes a Subito Piano is put in the last few words with a Fermata). Don't get me wrong, she sung great, but the meaning is lost.
They failed wholesale to capture the intent of the sections of that piece in what I can only assume is an attempt to have a continuous crescendo to a climax and then diminuendo to the end.
Basically, the stage performance makes me cry, and this one doesn't

If I didn't take a Music Appreciation class, I would have no idea what you were saying. Haha.

It'd be great to let those beloved characters go then bring them back and change them up... That's what zombie Lui-Kang and the millions of Metta World Peace Ryu's on Mugen are for. Add some new blood if you're already working on number 4. make the 15 anniversary something really special!!

Yes. I agree. We need something different. More of the same won't really cut it.

 

[Johnknight1]

You knows guys, I've been thinking...

...a Baby Mario tag team is seriously an under-the-radar idea that might work. I mean, we haven't gotten a new Mario franchise character (well, other than kinda sorta Wario and Diddy Kong), and this character combination idea could actually work out to being really cool (the more I think about it). The two could have cute adorable powers, and best of all they could really do things other characters cannot.

Plus they could be a much different twist on the team character concept than our pals the Ice Climbers.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I said that Xenoblade is considered up there with Mario and Zelda some of the best acclaimed Wii games, so they don't really count

relevance/recency =/= importance

Almost all of those characters(with the exception of Megaman) have had increased importance after Brawl, Isaac has only lowered

What about Little Mac? Who cares if that was one of the most remembered franchises of Nintendo. He hasn't appeared in a game recently so he's not important to Nintendo like this one off game that just got good ratings. And you said it yourself that Mega Man got in despite Capcom treating him poorly. Mega Man is still important to Capcom history and gaming history regardless that it is not being treated well by it's company.

I can't make sense of the 3rd one, mind repeating it in a different way please?

You're basing a series importance off of it's ratings. I mean look at Starfy, it got 5 games. Clearly Nintendo thought it was important regardless of how well it was received. Oh, but he hasn't gotten another game yet, so it doesn't matter because it's about the latest Nintendo icons, it's about what's important to the fans, not Nintendo ammirite? Ratings don't decide what Nintendo & Sakurai consider important. The fact that Golden Sun got another game shows how important it is, regardless of how much you liked it.

 

[Morbi]

Because it is Pokémon.

Because people want unoriginal characters like Toad and Waluigi and minor characters like Impa and Ghirahim.

But yeah, Shulk is probably happening. Isaac... eh... it's a bit more up in the air.

Toad is unoriginal? Really? Most Nintendo characters are pretty generic and unoriginal as well. I can't really think of a Nintendo character more original than Toad off the top of my head. Maybe Kirby.

 

[Deleted member]

He might not, but Mask-X sure does.

lol
Arm Wrestling reference.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

But yeah, Shulk is probably happening. Isaac... eh... it's a bit more up in the air.

Are you for real right now?

 

[Deleted member]

You knows guys, I've been thinking...

...a Baby Mario tag team is seriously an under-the-radar idea that might work. I mean, we haven't gotten a new Mario franchise character (well, other than kinda sorta Wario and Diddy Kong), and this character combination idea could actually work out to being really cool (the more I think about it). The two could have cute adorable powers, and best of all they could really do things other characters cannot.

Plus they could be a much different twist on the team character concept than our pals the Ice Climbers.

....and you call Waluigi a horrible idea.

 

[Morbi]

Are you for real right now?

Maybe he mixed the two names up?

 

[Autumn ♫]

relevance/recency =/= importance
I never said recency does mean importance, but doesn't relevance mean importance? Anyway's let's not get stuck on the dictionary shall we.

What about Little Mac? Who cares if that was one of the most remembered franchises of Nintendo. He hasn't appeared in a game recently so he's not important to Nintendo like this one off game that just got good ratings. And you said it yourself that Mega Man got in despite Capcom treating him poorly. Mega Man is still important to Capcom history and gaming history regardless that it is not being treated well by it's company.
Little Mac has gotten a remake of his game, Punch-Out Wii not too long ago and it was a very good game, so I believe that makes up for him, and he can be our Retro chararacter if you want. Megaman got in due to his history with Nintendo and Huge fan Demand


You're basing a series importance off of it's ratings. I mean look at Starfy, it got 5 games. Who only had one internationally released game and Sakurai doesn't seem to like him. Clearly Nintendo thought it was important regardless of how well it was received. Oh, but he hasn't gotten another game yet, so it doesn't matter because it's about the latest Nintendo icons, it's about what's important to the fans, not Nintendo ammirite? Not quite, Smash Bros. is like a love-letter to Nintendo, showing off some of it's biggest things although fans do play a big role. Ratings don't decide what Nintendo & Sakurai consider important. The fact that Golden Sun got another game shows how important it is, regardless of how much you liked it.I actually never played the 3rd one, so no bias is coming out of my mouth when I say that. It was a very poorly sold game compared to the others and Camelot doesn't seem to be trying to make a new one anytime soon.