Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[TumblrFamous]

So, guys, question time.

Is it in any way possible that we see a reveal the day of the Pokemon releases (Saturday), if it was a newcomer like I hope Mewtwo will be, or is the day before more likely?

 

[BKupa666]

Popularity is both underrated and overrated in terms of being advantageous for a character's inclusion, in my opinion. On one hand, there has yet to be a Smash game where the most popular of the newcomer pool has not become playable (Bowser/Peach, Wario/Dedede/Diddy/Sonic). Out of the few that haven't, there are often special circumstances involved, like Sakurai not wanting three Mario newcomers in one game with Wario (then thinking he deserved better than to be a clone), Sakurai wanting to be modest by withholding Dedede, and Sakurai considering Ridley "pretty impossible." Considering we can't reliably account for these, it's best to disregard them until they emerge.

On the other hand, people see those characters and think that, because they were popular, anyone with even a shred of fan support is a likely character. This centers mainly around self-explanatory one-shots like Owain, but extends even up to guys like Toad, with whom people will equate a few scattered posts of "I'm a Toad fan" as him having a large supportive fanbase. Basically, people have to learn to discern between legitimately noteworthy popularity and...the rest, and then speculate accordingly. It can hinge on being a judgment call at times, but there are a few obvious outliers in my opinion.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

So, guys, question time.

Is it in any way possible that we see a reveal the day of the Pokemon releases (Saturday), if it was a newcomer like I hope Mewtwo will be, or is the day before more likely?

Since when is Mewtwo a Newcomer?

 

[Espio264]

So, guys, question time.

Is it in any way possible that we see a reveal the day of the Pokemon releases (Saturday), if it was a newcomer like I hope Mewtwo will be, or is the day before more likely?

Who's to say we won't get something on Wednesday? Or the following Monday? Saturday's not out of the question, but why would he go into work on his day off to promote something that a good chunk of the people who will be most excited for will probably be out buying and playing anyway?

Friday seems likely. But according to the reveal patterns, or lack thereof, it's more productive to speculate who instead of when.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Once again, Mewtwo is a returning veteran.

 

[Johnknight1]

Quiet with your Wind Wakers and Ocarinas. The best Zelda game ever is the original. I'm not joking. I've beaten it at least 42 times.

DLC fits for characters that only have a one-time role, but are very popular, ones like Ghirahim and Zoroark.

Except Ghirahim isn't very popular. Like at all. Zant, Midna, and Wolf Link pre-Brawl were at least 10 times more popular.

Heck, Vatti, Tingle, and Skull Kid pre-Brawl were more popular than Ghirahim.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I seen plenty of requests for Ghirahim in most Youtube videos involving most wanted newcomers.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I guess the main problem going on is that people are way too pressed with what is considered popular now, but don't consider the possibility of the choice not having a lasting effect and being very vulnerable to fading away to obscurity. This is why some characters only have popularity in short bursts and then are never brought up again. In my eyes, I do admire something that has popularity that endures the trial of time over a character that is only popular because of the hottest new toy, because it shows off something that is timeless in a sense. In other words, people that support K. Rool are generally better then those that support the likes of Chrom.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

I guess the main problem going on is that people are way too pressed with what is considered popular now, but don't consider the possibility of the choice not having a lasting effect and being very vulnerable to fading away to obscurity.

Regardless of that though, the moment a character makes into a smash bros game, their infamy and future popularity will be guaranteed no matter what, and might even ensure them future roles in their franchises. Meta Knight had popularity among kirby fans sure, but it was never what it is now, and i dont think he and dedede would have been playable in return to dreamland if they werent as popular as they are now due to smash bros.

 

[IsmaR]

Meta Knight has been playable in almost as many Kirby games as Kirby himself, with Dedede not far behind (if only for minigames).

You're mixing up Smash popularity with just being popular in general. The only thing Smash popularized was the Halberd's redesign.

 

[?????????????]

I just finished Fire Emblem Awakening for the first time.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I just finished Fire Emblem Awakening for the first time.

Nice, sounds like you finally got your 3DS. What are your thoughts on the title?

 

[MargnetMan23]

I just finished Fire Emblem Awakening for the first time.

Fire Emblem Awakening... Oh right... I kind of stopped playing before I beat the final stage for some reason...

 

[BluePikmin11]

I just finished Fire Emblem Awakening for the first time.

Please tell me your favorite characters in the game..

Fire Emblem Awakening... Oh right... I kind of stopped playing before I beat the final stage for some reason...

The final boss is easy if maximize Robin's stats.

 

[Johnknight1]

Popularity and imporantance makes you considered as a playable character; being a great potential playable character (more than the not selected characters) is what ultimately winds up deciding on what makes characters playable.

Once again, Mewtwo is a returning veteran.

"A long awaited returning veteran" would be a more accurate description IMO.

I seen plenty of requests for Ghirahim in most Youtube videos involving most wanted newcomers.

>Youtube
>Popularity
Really, it's the same 5 people. If that game was really popular and the character was too, it wouldn't have under-performed (saleswise). The same is true with Spirit Tracks and Twilight Princess.

And again, Ghirahim isn't that popular, especially compard to several Zelda franchise characters pre-Brawl.

 

[?????????????]

I liked the game a lot. Actually, it was my first time ever playing a Fire Emblem game through, so I had to learn a lot of stuff. It took me a while to understand skills and reclassing, but I got relationships and pairing down pretty quickly. A lot of people died, so I want to play through again now that I get it better.

I definitely enjoyed it enough to play it again.

My favorite characters wound up being Tharja, Henry, and Lon'qu.

 

[MargnetMan23]

The final boss is easy if maximize Robin's stats.

It probably is I just haven't really bothered...

Please tell me your favorite characters in the game..

I know you weren't asking me but here are some I liked
Gaius, Tharja, Cherche, Henry, and Yarne...
These picks are mostly because I used these guys a lot XD

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

So, guys, question time.

Is it in any way possible that we see a reveal the day of the Pokemon releases (Saturday), if it was a newcomer like I hope Mewtwo will be, or is the day before more likely?

They haven't done a character reveal on a weekend before. While its possible, I suspect it to be on Thursday or Friday.

 

[Hotfeet444]

It probably is I just haven't really bothered...


I know you weren't asking me but here are some I liked
Gaius, Tharja, Cherche, Henry, and Yarne...
These picks are mostly because I used these guys a lot XD

Well, nobody's going to ask me this question, but my favorite characters were Nowi, Tiki, Anna and Yarne. Especially considering Yarne possibly has some of the funniest lines in the entire game.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Me favorite characters are Anna, Walhart, Say'ri, Nowi, Owain, Inigo, Nah, and Robin.
(Also Donnel, almost forgot)

 

[FlareHabanero]

Popularity and imporantance makes you considered as a playable character; being a great potential playable character (more than the not selected characters) is what ultimately winds up deciding on what makes characters playable.

This is also something don't really take advantage of when it comes to selecting characters. You got think of what would sound appealing, not from the standpoint of popularity but rather from the standpoint of diversity and gameplay. While what is known might sounds more like the ideal route, it's better to make something interesting and making it known. That's one of Super Smash Bros. best strengths, the franchise takes risks whenever it's called for instead of always playing it safe.

 

[Johnknight1]

They haven't done a character reveal on a weekend before. While its possible, I suspect it to be on Thursday or Friday.

I gotta disagree. I think it will be whenever the Pokémon Direct is.

>He

Oh bloody hell, here we go...

HERE I GO AGAIN ON MY OWNNN!!!!
GOIN' DOWN THE ONLY ROAD I'VE EVER KNOWNN!!!!
LIKE A DRIFTER I WAS BORN TO WALK ALLOOONNNEEEE!!!!

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I gotta disagree. I think it will be whenever the Pokémon Direct is.

HERE I GO AGAIN ON MY OWNNN!!!!
GOIN' DOWN THE ONLY ROAD I'VE EVER KNOWNN!!!!
LIKE A DRIFTER I WAS BORN TO WALK ALLOOONNNEEEE!!!!

Unless there is another one planned, it already happened weeks ago.

 

[TumblrFamous]

I gotta disagree. I think it will be whenever the Pokémon Direct is.

HERE I GO AGAIN ON MY OWNNN!!!!
GOIN' DOWN THE ONLY ROAD I'VE EVER KNOWNN!!!!
LIKE A DRIFTER I WAS BORN TO WALK ALLOOONNNEEEE!!!!

AN' I'VE MADE UP MY MIND!!!!
I AIN'T WASTING NO MORE TIME!!!!!

But it simply depends when the next Pokemon direct is. It could be in November for all we know. But Sakurai would probably be well-informed if he decides to show someone off on the site or on a potential direct.

 

[Johnknight1]

Unless there is another one planned, it already happened weeks ago.

I think there will be another one (I guess is what I am trying to happen).

I mean, hasn't there been 2 already=???

The thing about Pokémon is that it is so big, it could warrant like 6 different Nintendo Directs.

 

[Glaciacott]

Why would there be another Pokemon Direct? By next week anything people will want to know about X and Y is from playing the game. Not to mention pretty much all of it is leaked by now from people getting review copies and random countries breaking street date.

Also, on the Ghirahim-popularity note, he is rather popular in Japan. I recall reading something of that sort in that thread with info about the Japanese fanbase. So no, I don't think he's anywhere near the same as Zant was pre-Brawl.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Why not have both Isaac and Shulk?

 

[?????????????]

Why not have both Isaac and Shulk?

 

[TumblrFamous]

Why not have both Isaac and Shulk?

Life isn't all sugar and rainbows, darling. Or, video games aren't...?

Anyway, I'd be fine if either make it, or both make it. I like Shulk more, but hey. Neither of them are my #1 wanted character, not even in my Top 10. But both deserve it, so I'd be thrilled if they make it.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Darn-it the pic didn't appear and it wouldn't let me edit my post

 

[FlareHabanero]

Why not have both Isaac and Shulk?

Because someone has to suffer.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Because someone has to suffer.

Well duh...

That be Saki.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I hardly know anything about Xenoblade or Golden Sun.


Thus, why I avoided the earlier discussion.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Well duh...

That be Saki.

His fault for having a girl's name.

 

[TumblrFamous]

His fault for having a girl's name.

His fault for looking like he has boobies.

Let's talk about Saki, guys.

 

[Johnknight1]

Why would there be another Pokemon Direct?

Because it is Pokémon.

Why not have both Isaac and Shulk?

Because people want unoriginal characters like Toad and Waluigi and minor characters like Impa and Ghirahim.

But yeah, Shulk is probably happening. Isaac... eh... it's a bit more up in the air.

 

[Starcutter]

well I for one am hoping that Issac happens. weather not shulk is in or not.

 

[Johnknight1]

His fault for looking like he has boobies.

Let's talk about Saki, guys.

He could be unique and fun, but yet, the odds are stacked against him pretty heavily against him due to a lot of factors, mostly that his franchise seems to be dead, and that it doesn't sell that well. Like at all. Like the last game sold like crap.

 

[SuperBrawler]

I prefer Isaac.

 

[Johnknight1]

I prefer Isaac.

I prefer Captain Falco.