Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[?????????????]

Meanwhile, 4chan is *****ing about Toon Link and how the whole "diversity" talk in interviews was all a thinly veiled ruse.

Ha ha ha ha. What a bunch of maroons.



I guess I'll specifically target that comment towards those who thought Diversity=No Clones.

Reading way too hard into words to make what you want seem like what's likely to actually happen.

 

[Deleted member]

X/Y's release will have Pyroar revealed.

Why Pyroar? "Because **** you I'm a lion"

 

[?????????????]

X/Y's release will have Pyroar revealed.

Why Pyroar? "Because **** you I'm a lion"

 

[BluePikmin11]

Does this look like Final Destination or a Super Mario Galaxy stage?

 

[ChronoBound]

Meanwhile, 4chan is *****ing about Toon Link and how the whole "diversity" talk in interviews was all a thinly veiled ruse.

Yet I bet these same clowns want Chrom.

 

[?????????????]

Does this look like Final Destination or a Super Mario Galaxy stage?

Hm. I assumed it was Wily Fortress. Not sure though.

 

[N3ON]

@BluePikmin
It's the Mega Man stage.

Look, I'm human. I genuinely want Snake to return, but I also want to rub it in the faces of people who told me it was IMPOSSIBLE for him to return.

Same goes for Ridley as a newcomer.

Well sure, I'm a terrible human too, I've enjoyed seeing some people already be thoroughly disproven, whether with Mega Man, with Toon Link, with them trying to incorrectly interpret Sakurai's logic, or in other areas. Same will happen with Sonic and Snake for me. And it would for Ridley... if he manages to become a character, which I frankly doubt. But if it happened... well I wouldn't envy the mods that day.
Wait...

However I can't pretend I've been right about everything as well. I never would've suspect Villager and WFT to be added, I would've scoffed at those who suggested them pre-reveal. I think every person who has a defined opinion is guilty of this in some form, nobody is 100% right when it comes to speculation.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Does this look like Final Destination or a Super Mario Galaxy stage?

Isn't that the Mega Man stage? Willy's Castle I think?

Compare the floor on the two stages, it's definetely this stage.

 

[Deleted member]

Does this look like Final Destination or a Super Mario Galaxy stage?

It's the Dr. Wily stage.

 

[BluePikmin11]

It definitely looks like Dr. Wily's castle based on the flashing lights.

 

[Xhampi]

X/Y's release will have Pyroar revealed.


Why Pyroar? "Because **** you I'm a lion"

Tyrunt : I'M A MOTHER****** T REX !

 

[?????????????]

However I can't pretend I've been right about everything as well. I never would've suspect Villager and WFT to be added, I would've scoffed at those who suggested them pre-reveal. I think every person who has a defined opinion is guilty of this in some form, nobody is 100% right when it comes to speculation.

Nope, of course not. I was a lot more arrogant when I first started making videos; my ideas were "clearly the best." Villager? HA! Don't make me laugh. Sakurai said it wouldn't happen. Characters need to be adventurers or fighters.

...Yeah...

Well, in that regard, I'm glad I was wrong.

 

[BluePikmin11]

The blue flooring looks familar to FD's.
Immediate assumption.

 

[Arcadenik]

As well as New Super Mario Bros. Wii and New Super Mario Bros. U.

Although Toad is blue in Super Mario Bros. 2, in the artwork he has red spots. Kind of like the whole deal where Link's hair is pink in the actual game to A Link To The Past, but a blondish color in all the artwork to it.

Yeah... and remember that SMB2 Toad had red spots instead of blue spots in Super Mario All-Stars (both SNES and Wii versions) and Super Mario Advance... so I think THE Toad now comes in multiple colors instead of just red spots with blue vest... even Blue Toad's Japanese name is Ao Kinopio (meaning Blue Toad) but notice it is Kinopio (THE Toad), not Kino (A Toad). Yellow Toad's Japanese name is Kiro Kinopio (meaning Yellow Toad). It seems like THE Toad can be in two places at the same time... so one THE Toad can be up Peach's vagoo and the other THE Toad can be playable.

 

[Frostwraith]

Meanwhile, 4chan is *****ing about Toon Link and how the whole "diversity" talk in interviews was all a thinly veiled ruse.

People on GameFAQs are complaining too.

Sucks to be them.

 

[Deleted member]

Tyrantrum : I'M A MOTHER****** T REX !

Fixed.

 

[Baskerville]

Meanwhile, 4chan is *****ing about Toon Link and how the whole "diversity" talk in interviews was all a thinly veiled ruse.

Why were you even there to begin with?

 

[NickerBocker]

Again, I think there are too many options to easily predict which Pokemon will be revealed in October.

Heck, for all we know we could even get a trailer for every single remaining Pokemon rep, or at least a few.

If we get a Mewtwo reveal though I wouldn't surprised if there was a trailer for her/him.

Chances are we just get Jigglypuff, which will not surprise anyone.

But it would be cool if there was a Lucario/Mewtwo trailer. It would be Lucario kicking ass by himself, and then Mewtwo comes in and launches everyone else outta there with a psychic blast, and says something like "I have no time for toying around" (because its smash) and they started fighting eachother, with a finale of them going Mega and the screen explodes with awesome

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Tyrunt : I'M A MOTHER****** T REX !

If that's true, should I call you Sharptooth from now on?

confound my Land Before Time nostalgia...

 

[BluePikmin11]

Toon Link being confirmed easily confirms Zelda and Ganondorf to be returning.

 

[shrooby]

Yeah... and remember that SMB2 Toad had red spots instead of blue spots in Super Mario All-Stars (both SNES and Wii versions) and Super Mario Advance... so I think THE Toad now comes in multiple colors instead of just red spots with blue vest... even Blue Toad's Japanese name is Ao Kinopio (meaning Blue Toad) but notice it is Kinopio (THE Toad), not Kino (A Toad). Yellow Toad's Japanese name is Kiro Kinopio (meaning Yellow Toad). It seems like THE Toad can be in two places at the same time... so one THE Toad can be up Peach's vagoo and the other THE Toad can be playable.

As if this whole thing wasn't strange enough to explain...Toad, a Toad, The Toad, a The Toad. Ugh, this is getting strange. All I know anymore is that this is a toad:

 

[Xhampi]

Fixed.

I didn't even know he had an evolution, it's true what they said, you learn something every day =)

Edit : Land before time was awesome ^^

 

[Espio264]

Here's a theory I've been working on for a little while now, but it never really worked out until today...

If you think about it, since the E3 reveal, including that week, there have been 16 weeks and we now have 16 characters. When trying to find a pattern, I stumbled upon this but it never really held water until our little guy was revealed this morning. So now that there is no one left to fill in the weeks, perhaps we might be getting a reveal a week? When you think about it, it was this time of year back in 2007 when we were getting a character just about every week up until Dedede.

I don't mean to get your hopes up, and my apologies if anyone has brought this theory up before, but so far it makes a little sense. Honestly I'm betting on a reveal about every two weeks. Considering we got TL exactly two weeks after Peach, and that the Pokemon X Y release is approx. 2 weeks from today, it only makes sense.

Just a thought. Let me know what you think.

 

[Baskerville]

Toon Link being confirmed easily confirms Zelda and Ganondorf to be returning.

Like they had any chance of not being in.
I'm just happy my main is back.

 

[N3ON]

If you think about it, since the E3 reveal, including that week, there have been 16 weeks and we now have 16 characters. When trying to find a pattern, I stumbled upon this but it never really held water until our little guy was revealed this morning. So now that there is no one left to fill in the weeks, perhaps we might be getting a reveal a week? When you think about it, it was this time of year back in 2007 when we were getting a character just about every week up until Dedede.

I don't mean to get your hopes up, and my apologies if anyone has brought this theory up before, but so far it makes a little sense. Honestly I'm betting on a reveal about every two weeks. Considering we got TL exactly two weeks after Peach, and that the Pokemon X Y release is approx. 2 weeks from today, it only makes sense.


Just a thought. Let me know what you think.

A reveal a week? With over a year until the likely release? Yeahno.

(Last time when we were getting frequent reveals it was because it was a few months from when the game was set to release, not over a year away. We also didn't get any characters other than Fox revealed in the year after the first trailer)

 

[Deleted member]

I didn't even know he had an evolution, it's true what they said, you learn something every day =)

Edit : Land before time was awesome ^^

I know. If I do get X/Y, I know what I'm naming my Tyrunt.

 

[ChronoBound]

People on GameFAQs are complaining too.

Sucks to be them.

As I said with 4chan, these same people ironically are probably the biggest Chrom cheerleaders.

The cognitive dissonance is strong within them.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I hope for multiple newcomers in a Smash direct. At least 3, to be hyped.
A Smash Direct might come this November.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Just because a character was revealed before others doesn't necessarily mean they were prioritized before others. The game has been in development for over a year and a half, it's entirely possible Sakurai has already added both the initial wave of characters and some of the secondary choices. It's likely the roster is already finalized, even with the later additions. I'm not saying TL was prioritized the same as Brawl, I'm not saying you're wrong in that regard, I'm saying he was chosen for a reason to be unveiled now, and we can't determine from this sole event the general priority from Brawl has shifted, it's not like we know exactly when in the development schedule TL was added this time or in Brawl, all we know for the latter is he was added later.

In regards to how this applies to Jiggs, I still stand by my statement. She won't be cut, but she'll be prioritized last of the Pokemon.

The point still stands, however, that Toon Link wasn't made at the end of the development's lifespan like he was in Brawl. SSB4 isn't even due until later next year, meaning we're nowhere near the end of SSB4's development either. "Wind Waker HD is coming out soon" hardly seems like a reason to take one of your lowest priority characters from the last game and reveal them within the batch of the first 5 veteran reveals. It could be the case, but from a development standpoint it just makes more sense to work on characters whenever they seem relevant within the team's standpoint.

I'm not saying that Jigglypuff and Wolf will be high or even medium priority this time, but I am saying that with most of Brawl's initial four newcomers nowhere to be found, Olimar being the first veteran despite being one of the last revealed starters in Brawl, and Toon Link being one of the first revealed veterans in SSB4, it's very evident this time that SSB4's priority list does not equate to Brawl's and that there is going to be a need for more evidence before one can consider Jigglypuff and Wolf automatically last-minute additions once again.

 

[?????????????]

I hope for multiple newcomers in a Smash direct. At least 3, to be hyped.
A Smash Direct might come this November.

They show off Chrom in Arena Ferox, Ridley in Pyrosphere, and LITTLE MAC IN THE RIIIIIIING!!

 

[Espio264]

A reveal a week? With over a year until the likely release? Yeahno.

(Last time when we were getting frequent reveals it was because it was a few months from when the game was set to release, not over a year away. We also didn't get any characters other than Fox revealed in the year after the first trailer)

Considering they were ready to show us Toon Link of all characters this early, you really think the release is over a year from now? 8 - 9 months sure, but seriously 12+?
I don't expect a reveal a week no, but it's only twice as crazy an idea as those of us who expect 2 a month.

 

[N3ON]

I hope for multiple newcomers in a Smash direct. At least 3, to be hyped.
A Smash Direct might come this November.

It wouldn't make sense to reveal so many character this far away from release for the sole sake of revealing characters. We've still got a long wait, Sakurai isn't going to show more than he has to to keep the hype alive. One newcomer will do the job of many veterans anyway.

 

[Deleted member]

Blah blah blah Chrom Chrom Chrom

Broken record.

 

[?????????????]

Considering they were ready to show us Toon Link of all characters this early, you really think the release is over a year from now? 8 - 9 months sure, but seriously 12+?
I don't expect a reveal a week no, but it's only twice as crazy an idea as those of us who expect 2 a month.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the game didn't come out until NEXT holiday season.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'm assuming the release date is at Summer, so I think November seems like a good time.

 

[Frostwraith]

For the record, I wouldn't mind Chrom as playable, as long as the FE characters in Brawl returned.

I actually would prefer to have Marth, Roy and Ike as the FE characters, despite FE Awakening being one of my favorite games of all time.

 

[BKupa666]

Another thing; if characters who are clearly unlockable are being shown off to correspond with release dates, does this spell trouble for Wonder Red, given that he wasn't shown off with the W101 release date? There could be some hesitance to show off newcomers yet, so I wouldn't say that's absolutely the case, but it's worth pondering at least.

 

[N3ON]

Considering they were ready to show us Toon Link of all characters this early, you really think the release is over a year from now? 8 - 9 months sure, but seriously 12+?
I don't expect a reveal a week no, but it's only twice as crazy an idea as those of us who expect 2 a month.

Yup. I see Smash coming out 12 months from now at the earliest. It'll probably be Nintendo's big holiday game for next year. Brawl was in development for a little less than two and a half years, and now they're working on two. Just because TL is ready to be shown doesn't mean they're close to done, chances are most characters are in a showable state. Does that mean Sakurai will show most of them anytime soon? Ofc not, but the roster is probably in a stage where the characters aren't finished, but are far enough for most of them to be shown.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Here's a theory I've been working on for a little while now, but it never really worked out until today...

Spoiler

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If you think about it, since the E3 reveal, including that week, there have been 16 weeks and we now have 16 characters. When trying to find a pattern, I stumbled upon this but it never really held water until our little guy was revealed this morning. So now that there is no one left to fill in the weeks, perhaps we might be getting a reveal a week? When you think about it, it was this time of year back in 2007 when we were getting a character just about every week up until Dedede.

I don't mean to get your hopes up, and my apologies if anyone has brought this theory up before, but so far it makes a little sense. Honestly I'm betting on a reveal about every two weeks. Considering we got TL exactly two weeks after Peach, and that the Pokemon X Y release is approx. 2 weeks from today, it only makes sense.

Just a thought. Let me know what you think.

Perhaps before we know it, we'll have this guy showing up again...

Spoiler

 

[Espio264]

Yup. I see Smash coming out 12 months from now at the earliest. It'll probably be Nintendo's big holiday game for next year. Brawl was in development for a little less than two and a half years, and now they're working on two. Just because TL is ready to be shown doesn't mean they're close to done, chances are most characters are in a showable state. Does that mean Sakurai will show most of them anytime soon? Ofc not, but the roster is probably in a stage where the characters aren't finished, but are far enough for most of them to be shown.

Fine. I'll take your word for it, go back to my Ridley hole and try to find another crazy coincidence.