Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[AnOkayDM]

Right, he originated in NP.

Not in a game.

 

[FalKoopa]

As for Bayonetta, let's not forget that she and Snake have vastly different personalities.

If you want to include Bayonetta, you might as well include Tharja.

 

[AnOkayDM]

As for Bayonetta, let's not forget that she and Snake have vastly different personalities.


If you want to include Bayonetta, you might as well include Tharja.

Yeah, when I said "mature," I was talking about the highly sexual themes of the game, not the rating.

Though I still don't feel like Snake really belongs in Smash.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Many "Less Popular" characters can make people want to play the game as well, if not more, than popular choices.

That would be correct, you just have to remember about the rule of first impressions. Casuals aren't even aware of the majority of the characters in Super Smash Bros. to begin with, so popularity is actually not that huge of an issue. What is an issue is if the character in question would make people play the game, in other words something notable about them that makes them enticing to try out. Captain Falcon is probably the prime example of this.

 

[zauberdragon]

Regards Dark Pit, he's not even the best Kid Icarus rep. Even with a different weapon he'd likely share several moves with Pit, I'm thinking B^ and several A moves. Palutena, Medussa and Hades all have better chances.
I highly doubt he'll get in but even if he did I'd be disappointed. As with Link and his dark costume, Dark Pit should continue to have the same treatment. Give the people a chance to 'play' as him but no to a standalone character.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Did you know Dark Pit had his own theme, that's just a portion of the reason why I want Dark Pit.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Dark Pit should be a alt costume at least (if they are added). He could be a more powerful but slower version than Pit. However, I feel there are other more suited characters such as Palutena or Hades.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Maybe Viridi if I replaced Dark Pit.

 

[zauberdragon]

Did you know Dark Pit had his own theme, that's just a portion of the reason why I want Dark Pit.

As I've said before, music, trophies and stickers should represent characters other than the playable ones as Smash is meant to be a celebration of all things Nintendo. I agree Dark Pit should be recognised by Smash but not playable.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Right, he originated in NP.

Not in a game.

He's still a Nintendo character

 

[FalKoopa]

He's still a Nintendo character

Sakurai doesn't know about him.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I'm pretty sure Sakurai knows or has the capacity to know of every (almost)
single Nintendo character.

But Nester is stretching it. He's probably thought of "that one dude."

 

[AnOkayDM]

He's still a Nintendo character

Doesn't matter. If you're not from a game, you're not in the game.

 

[Opossum]

inb4 Golden

 

[Deleted member]

Doesn't matter. If you're not from a game, you're not in the game.

That has actually never been said.

And even with the way that misinterpretation was spread along, it was in regards to guests, not Nintendo's own IPs (otherwise R.O.B. would not be in Brawl).

The only issues that really affect Nester (which are pretty big issues to not take lightly) are that he's never been seen in Japan and it is unknown if Nintendo even owns him.

EDIT: Dammit Possum.

 

[AnOkayDM]

That has actually never been said.


And even with the way that misinterpretation was spread along, it was in regards to guests, not Nintendo's own IPs (otherwise R.O.B. would not be in Brawl).


The only issues that really affect Nester (which are pretty big issues to not take lightly) are that he's never been seen in Japan and it is unknown if Nintendo even owns him.


EDIT: Dammit Possum.

But there's no reason to believe that a character will get in without having been in a game.

I mean I s'pose he has been, but nevertheless, why would anyone get into Smash without having a gaming background?

Also R.O.B. has been in games before.

 

[Deleted member]

But there's no reason to believe that a character will get in without having been in a game.

I mean I s'pose he has been, but nevertheless, why would anyone get into Smash without having a gaming background?

Also R.O.B. has been in games before.

Except that Nester HAS been in games. Before R.O.B. started to do so (and in a more expansive manner), Nester would make cameos in games.
Including his own title: Nester's Funky Bowling.

So really, if R.O.B. is acceptable, so is Nester. Again, the only issue is that he's not associated with Japan and his status as a Nintendo IP is questionable.

 

[FalKoopa]

Why exactly is Nester's status as a Nintendo IP questionable? Because Nintendo Power has ended? Or that his creator left Nintendo?

 

[Thirdkoopa]

hi guys what's going on

While Dark Pit has an AMAZING song and one of the best in uprising, it's better to put in, you know, a stage.

That would be correct, you just have to remember about the rule of first impressions. Casuals aren't even aware of the majority of the characters in Super Smash Bros. to begin with, so popularity is actually not that huge of an issue. What is an issue is if the character in question would make people play the game, in other words something notable about them that makes them enticing to try out. Captain Falcon is probably the prime example of this.

I like you more and more every day.

The other thing is making them have interest into the series. Ness and Lucas are prime examples, having gathered much interest into the Mother series and more than it ever had (Starmen did exist though before Smash 64, but still)

 

[AnOkayDM]

Except that Nester HAS been in games. Before R.O.B. started to do so (and in a more expansive manner), Nester would make cameos in games.Including his own title: Nester's Funky Bowling.

So really, if R.O.B. is acceptable, so is Nester. Again, the only issue is that he's not associated with Japan and his status as a Nintendo IP is questionable.

Dude, I'm not denying that he's been in games (EDIT: anymore). O_o I'm denying that any character who hasn't been in a game will be in Smash, especially if s/he didn't originate in one.

I don't think Nester originated in a game, right? Not that it matters as much since he's Nintendo-created.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Could you say R.O.B. was originally a product of Nintendo, and that it was a character in Smash

 

[Deleted member]

Why exactly is Nester's status as a Nintendo IP questionable? Because Nintendo Power has ended? Or that his creator left Nintendo?

What is questionable about it is that it is unknown whether or not Nintendo owns him.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Could you say R.O.B. was originally a product of Nintendo, and that it was a character in Smash

This

Nester's fine from everything I know about him and is completely fair grounds for a "WHAT THE HELL" character, especially since there's not many in existence.

 

[AnOkayDM]

Could you say R.O.B. was originally a product of Nintendo, and that it was a character in Smash

He'd been in games before Brawl though.

 

[BluePikmin11]

He'd been in games before Brawl though.

But he was still a product of Nintendo, FIRST.

 

[Deleted member]

He'd been in games before Brawl though.

....and Nester had been in games before Brawl as well.
Hell, even before Smash 64.

So really, what are you even arguing?

 

[AnOkayDM]

....and Nester had been in games before Brawl as well.
Hell, even before Smash 64.


So really, what are you even arguing?

Read my posts and you'd know?

I'm denying that any character who hasn't been in a game will be in Smash, especially if s/he didn't originate in one.

 

[Frostwraith]

Let's just say that Nester's chances to be in a Smash game are VERY low and leave it at that.

 

[N3ON]

I'd say as Nintendo owned NP when Nestor was created, they probably own him. Or at the very least his likeness.

Not that it really matters. He's unlikely to show up anywhere ever again. Especially in Smash.

 

[AnOkayDM]

But he was still a product of Nintendo, FIRST.

That's not my point.

I don't think any character, created by Nintendo or not, will ever make it into Smash Bros. without having been in a game first.

EDIT: Which I acknowledge Nester has.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Nester's Funky Bowling was a game Nester appeared...

 

[AnOkayDM]

I know he was in games, for ****'s sake.

 

[Deleted member]

Read my posts and you'd know?

How about start making sense, and I'll know.
Mmm'k?


EDIT: By which I mean you aren't really arguing anything at this point since your argument was towards Nester, to which you acknowledge doesn't apply to it anymore.
Leaving nothing more than a statement for the sake of being a statement.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Every WTF character has low chances. I mean, would you really bank on Sukapon or Nester to be the Retro character when there's so many others to choose from?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Sukapon would be an NES retro, just like Takamaru

 

[Opossum]

Sukapon would be an NES retro, just like Takamaru

Do you want a cookie?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Do you want a cookie?

DON'T ENCOURAGE HIM.

Give the cookie to me instead.

 

[Deleted member]

Do you want a cookie?

 

[AnOkayDM]

EDIT: By which I mean you aren't really arguing anything at this point since your argument was towards Nester, to which you acknowledge doesn't apply to it anymore.
Leaving nothing more than a statement for the sake of being a statement.

So I can't make an argument about qualifications for being part of the Smash Bros. roster here in the Smash Bros. roster discussion thread?

Okay.

 

[Opossum]

B-but...if you give a mouse a cookie, you feed him for a day.

But if you teach a mouse to cookie, you'll feed him for a lifetime.