Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Autumn ♫]

No, her importance is greatly exaggerated and considering she is a Sheikah, there's no way Sakurai wouldn't make her a clone.

She is about the 4th most important Zelda character, if anyone says she's more important than Link, Zelda, or Ganondorf something's gone wrong. Just because's she's a Sheikah doesn't mean she'll be a clone of Sheik. Link and Zelda are both Hyrulians and they aren't clones.

 

[Arcanir]

Oh, so now it's about recency

...There's a bit more to it then that but eh, lets move on.

There's a lot they can do with Issac, I'm curious what they'll pull off with him.

 

[zauberdragon]

Even just ranking all Smash Characters in terms of both overall notoriety and within their respective series' importance, Lucario and Ike are towards the bottom. Given they've also both only been in one Smash game means they don't have history on their sides. I don't think anyone would argue that these two aren't candidates for the drop.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Collectively, I still think Lucario/Ike are the more likely cuts when compared to others because, like it or not, recency does play somewhat of a factor with their franchises for its always getting new possible reps, which also why we tend to go back to Fire Emblem/Pokemon the most, as they're the most unpredictable. That being said, can we go back to the Isaac discussion? I do see alot potential for him or even Matthew.

Recency gets characters in, it doesn't make them replace other characters. Besides Roy didn't have 2 installments and was added solely for recency, Ike was not. He was also planned for the game. Recency is NOT why Lucario got in and he was going to be alongside Mewtwo.

Lucas, Chrom, Roy, and Alph are all recency additions. Ike, Lucario, and Toon Link clearly have several other reasons.

Even just ranking all Smash Characters in terms of both overall notoriety and within their respective series' importance, Lucario and Ike are towards the bottom. Given they've also both only been in one Smash game means they don't have history on their sides. I don't think anyone would argue that these two aren't candidates for the drop.

Ike is not and you can easily have 3 Fire Emblem characters. Roy's fire can even be implemented into Ike & Takamaru. Not to mention Lucario is still recent. Mewtwo is what makes him possible for the drop. But, there are no good reasons to drop Ike.

 

[kingmario92]

Issac is a likely candidate. Golden Sun was quite popular during the GBA's lifespan, and it got I think about 2 or 3 other games. Isaac/Matthew would be a good character to play as. But what moves from Golden Sun would Isaac/Matthew use though?

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Honestly, and I'm not trying to start a fight here, I am VERY disappointed in having PILOTWINGS being represented in the Smashverse, because not only do we get an awkward 8-bit stage with strange clippings, an unusual layout, and the overall I-don't-get-it factor, but now Sakurai has almost but confirmed we are going to WASTE a character slot on a PilotWings character... This SUCKS, seriously...

As many mentioned before, just because a PilotWings stage is confirmed to appear; it does not mean a character will represent it. Just look at Hannenbow, Smashville, and Pictochat in Brawl. As well, I don't see how it is awkward just because it's 8-bit. In fact, I think the 8-bit feeling of the stage is the allure of it. It's quite beautiful actually.

But yeah.....don't be so dramatic about everything. This picture only confirms that a PilotWings stage is set to appear.

Here's my roster:

It looks good. The only thing I disagree with is Toad and Tingle. Toad is a somewhat likely character while Tingle is below avergae, IMO. They aren't terrible popular, requested, and popular but they are decent picks nonetheless. I don't think LoZ will recieve an additional rep PLUS Toon Link. Four max I think. I also question your addition of Mewtwo. Judging from the picture, are you suggesting that he appear ONLY in his new Awakened form or that Mewtwo has the ability to switch between the two? If the former, than I would have a problem with that.

Other than that, I'd like to see more Shulk, Saki, and Dixie action but that is a matter of personal preference.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Personally I'm against the idea of "Flavor of the Month" because it does ignore other things the characters have done. Having said that, Ike did appear in two games but he's much more restricted in that regard compared to Lucario who can keep on making appearances and has even after his generation is over. Ike hasn't had that much an impact compared to Lucario and he does manage to make a better case for himself because of that, I'm not saying Ike will get booted for Chrom but if I had to rate which character was at more risk I'd pick Ike.

Except Ike is still making an impact. Remember, which Lord was it besides Marth that got a confirmed descendant in Awakening?
That's right, it was Ike. Not even the Lord(s) whose continent appeared alongside Archanea(Alm and Celicia) got a confirmed descendant(though Walhart is considered to be something of a successor to Alm). No other lord(besides Marth, obv.) got this treatment. So in my eyes, clearly IS still sees that Ike has some value.

Oh yeah, and recency/relevance is bulls**t.

 

[N3ON]

Recency gets characters in, it doesn't make them replace other characters. Besides Roy didn't have 2 installments and was added solely for recency, Ike was not. He was also planned for the game. Recency is NOT why Lucario got in and he was going to be alongside Mewtwo.

Lucas, Chrom, Roy, and Alph are all recency additions. Ike, Lucario, and Toon Link clearly have several other reasons.

Roy didn't get in solely due to recency. Sakurai thought he was a good representative of FE along with Marth and liked the diversity Roy's fire moves would bring to Marth's moveset.

Lucas's addition wasn't solely due to recency either. He has quite the large amount of support and demand from Japan, as his series is pretty big there.

 

[kingmario92]

Recency gets characters in, it doesn't make them replace other characters. Besides Roy didn't have 2 installments and was added solely for recency, Ike was not. He was also planned for the game. Recency is NOT why Lucario got in and he was going to be alongside Mewtwo.

Lucas, Chrom, Roy, and Alph are all recency additions. Ike, Lucario, and Toon Link clearly have several other reasons.

Dude, Roy wasn't even in a game at the time of Melee's release, that was his first game appearance. He only got in for advertising the Fire Emblem game he was going to be in, that's it. After that, there was no reason to put him back in Smash, especially since Marth was more popular in Melee than Roy. Chrom is most likely getting in Smash 4 for the same reasons Ike got in Brawl. 1: He's popular. 2: He was the most recent FE lord.

 

[Autumn ♫]

It's been a while since I've shown yall my newest roster, so how do you like it?

 

[Silverjay323]

Recency gets characters in, it doesn't make them replace other characters. Besides Roy didn't have 2 installments and was added solely for recency, Ike was not. He was also planned for the game. Recency is NOT why Lucario got in and he was going to be alongside Mewtwo.

Lucas, Chrom, Roy, and Alph are all recency additions. Ike, Lucario, and Toon Link clearly have several other reasons.

Recency was one of the reasons Lucario got because inclusion in Smash is usually never based on one sole factor. Roy was added for Popularity amongst testers, as N3ON mentioned, along with recency. Lucas is an odd inclusion of the bunch, as he was added due to popularity and recency, but he also had impact, being the protagonist of the final installment of Mother,and pretty much made him irreplaceable. Chrom and Alph are speculation, and I doubt Pikmin will be receiving a new rep, if not Louie. Fire Emblem, as I said, along with pokemon usually have the flavor of the month card in so using Chrom and Roy as examples simply proves my point.

 

[SuperBrawler]

As many mentioned before, just because a PilotWings stage is confirmed to appear; it does not mean a character will represent it. Just look at Hannenbow, Smashville, and Pictochat in Brawl. As well, I don't see how it is awkward just because it's 8-bit. In fact, I think the 8-bit feeling of the stage is the allure of it. It's quite beautiful actually.

But yeah.....don't be so dramatic about everything. This picture only confirms that a PilotWings stage is set to appear.



It looks good. The only thing I disagree with is Toad and Tingle. Toad is a somewhat likely character while Tingle is below avergae, IMO. They aren't terrible popular, requested, and popular but they are decent picks nonetheless. I don't think LoZ will recieve an additional rep PLUS Toon Link. Four max I think. I also question your addition of Mewtwo. Judging from the picture, are you suggesting that he appear ONLY in his new Awakened form or that Mewtwo has the ability to switch between the two? If the former, than I would have a problem with that.

Other than that, I'd like to see more Shulk, Saki, and Dixie action but that is a matter of personal preference.

It was more of a Wishlist then a prediction, lol, so one reason I picked Toad is because a lot of people consider them equal but I picked Toad because I was always fond of Toad.

 

[Arcanir]

Except Ike is still making an impact. Remember, which Lord was it besides Marth that got a confirmed descendant in Awakening?
That's right, it was Ike. Not even the Lord(s) whose continent appeared alongside Archanea(Alm and Celicia) got a confirmed descendant(though Walhart is considered to be something of a successor to Alm). No other lord(besides Marth, obv.) got this treatment. So in my eyes, clearly IS still sees that Ike has some value.
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Note the wording, hasn't had "as much" an impact. I don't doubt he still has value nor that he had a descendent (though he was a very minor side character) but the whole point of my argument is that it's not as much as Lucario has had, that's it and he does have a bit more going against him.

 

[zauberdragon]

Ike is not and you can easily have 3 Fire Emblem characters. Roy's fire can even be implemented into Ike & Takamaru. Not to mention Lucario is still recent. Mewtwo is what makes him possible for the drop. But, there are no good reasons to drop Ike.

Ike still has the misfortune of being from a series whose protagonist changes between most games. I'm actually a fan of Ike, both in his games and smash and don't want him dropped but he's still a candidate. History has shown us Sakurai has dropped Fire Emblem characters in the past and there's no reason why he won't again. Hence why I say he's a candidate, not a certain drop.


My point being if you compared Ike to most other veterans he's low down in terms of priority.

 

[N3ON]

Issac is a likely candidate. Golden Sun was quite popular during the GBA's lifespan, and it got I think about 2 or 3 other games. Isaac/Matthew would be a good character to play as. But what moves from Golden Sun would Isaac/Matthew use though?

Any number of different Psynergy (basically magic) attacks, such as creating earthquakes, shooting spires of earth and controlling giant rocks and boulders, controlling plants, summoning giant swords, and a multitude of fire/wind/water attacks as well that Isaac is capable of (his element is Venus (Earth) though, so his moveset would likely be earth-oriented). Plus he can devastate the battlefield with Summons (very powerful summoning attacks), as well as Djinn (creatures that give the user special abilities) and just regular swordplay (though hopefully most of his moveset will revolve around the Psynergy, not the swordplay). He really has a huge arsenal to work with, moveset potential is definitely not a problem for him.

Dude, Roy wasn't even in a game at the time of Melee's release, that was his first game appearance. He only got in for advertising the Fire Emblem game he was going to be in, that's it. After that, there was no reason to put him back in Smash, especially since Marth was more popular in Melee than Roy. Chrom is most likely getting in Smash 4 for the same reasons Ike got in Brawl. 1: He's popular. 2: He was the most recent FE lord.

So you use popularity as a reason Ike got included but can't fathom that Roy would also have popularity? There's a reason to put him back in Smash. That's likely a good reason characters like Falco were implemented before Mewtwo.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

It was more of a Wishlist then a prediction, lol, so one reason I picked Toad is because a lot of people consider them equal but I picked Toad because I was always fond of Toad.

....ok. It's hard to critique a wishlist because it is based on the person's preference rather than likeliness/possibility. I critqued your roster on the basis that it is a prediction roster.

 

[kingmario92]

So you use popularity as a reason Ike got included but can't fathom that Roy would also have popularity? There's a reason to put him back in Smash. That's likely a good reason characters like Falco were implemented before Mewtwo.

Ok, I didn't mean to bring popularity into it, but my point is that he was the most recent FE protagonist at the time

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Dude, Roy wasn't even in a game at the time of Melee's release, that was his first game appearance. He only got in for advertising the Fire Emblem game he was going to be in, that's it. After that, there was no reason to put him back in Smash, especially since Marth was more popular in Melee than Roy.

It's really funny that you're disagreeing with somebody who said basically same thing you said(i.e. "OMG Roy wuz only included bcuz of recency/relevence/advertising/whatever, so he's 100% not coming back!).

Also, what N30N said.

Chrom is most likely getting in Smash 4 for the same reasons Ike got in Brawl. 1: He's popular.

So are Roy and Ike.

2: He was the most recent FE lord.

Was?

But for reals, give me a source where Sakurai says that he picked Ike because of recency. All we know is that Sakurai asked IS for a character, IS showed him Ike, and Sakurai liked him enough to put him in the game(and also planned to bring back Roy at some point in development).

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Dude, Roy wasn't even in a game at the time of Melee's release, that was his first game appearance. He only got in for advertising the Fire Emblem game he was going to be in, that's it. After that, there was no reason to put him back in Smash, especially since Marth was more popular in Melee than Roy. Chrom is most likely getting in Smash 4 for the same reasons Ike got in Brawl. 1: He's popular. 2: He was the most recent FE lord.

That's my point, Roy was added because he was new. And I'm saying Chrom should get in WITH Ike. There's no reason not to have 3 Fire Emblem reps.

 

[kingmario92]

It's really funny that you're disagreeing with somebody who said basically same thing you said(i.e. "OMG Roy wuz only included bcuz of recency/relevence/advertising/whatever, so he's 100% not coming back!).

Really? I thought he only brought up the whole "Recency" thing. I'd didn't see anyone bring up, oh I don't know, advertisements.

That's my point, Roy was added because he was new. And I'm saying Chrom should get in WITH Ike. There's no reason not to have 3 Fire Emblem reps.

I know, I'm just agreeing with you. I'm also bringing up a slightly different point.

 

[AEMehr]

That's my point, Roy was added because he was new.

But Roy wasn't added because he was new.
He was added because Sakurai saw that his flame spewing sword was enough to make him different from Marth.

 

[Deleted member]

the plusle and minun is actually the random slot. Excite Biker is still possible, you never know...

Wat.


Wat.



WAT.


How many times do I have to explain how the "random slot" explanation is completely and utterly false before people stop claiming it to be the random box?

I don't believe it was Plusle and Minun either, but it sure as Hell isn't the random box.


-The file is under character effects. The "random box" isn't a character.
-If it WAS the random box by some stretch of logic, the file would not be "pra_mai", it would be "random" or "omakase", the kanji on the random selection in the Japanese version of the game.
-"pra_mai" literally CANNOT translate to "each player" as some claim. Does anyone know what "player" is in Japanese? "Purēyā". That cannot be abbreviated as "pra". It would be "pre" or "prei".

Now, let's pretend that "pra" is "player" for a moment. While "mai" can mean "each" or "every", do you know what else it can mean? "My". By the same stretch of logic that people came up with it being the random box, it could also mean a custom character, since it could be "my player". It would make more sense actually, since again, the file is under character effects.


I swear, this needs to be stickied somewhere so that the "pra_mai is random box" argument that's as false and widespread as the "Meowth, Pit, and Peach were planned for Smash 64" argument will cease.

 

[FlareHabanero]

How many times do I have to explain how the "random slot" explanation is completely and utterly false before people stop claiming it to be the random box?

When people start to become smart. Which according to the events that have been going on lately, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

 

[Opossum]

I swear, this needs to be stickied somewhere so that the "pra_mai is random box" argument that's as false and widespread as the "Meowth, Pit, and Peach were planned for Smash 64" argument will cease.

I blame the wiki for that last one. I swear, whoever made that random edit must be having a field day...

 

[Arcadenik]

Recency is not what brings characters to Smash... recency only helps bring Sakurai's attention to these characters... not that it helped Krystal but...

 

[TheLastJinjo]

New Roster Update: Version 5.0 (New! Move Set for Paper Mario and specials for Eevee included.)

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DISCLAIMER: Eevee and Mewtwo are my replacements for JigglyPuff and Lucario. I do not assure the removal of these characters. But, in such a case these are the newcomer Pokemon I predict. I do realize reasons to keep these 2. I however realize reasons to add newcomer Pokemon as well. Also it's very likely characters will get cut, and Pokemon is a roster that should move forward through games rather than stay the same.

Noticeable Differences:

Matthew - Most people have Issac, as he appears in all the titles. I have Matthew because it seems he has replaced Issac's role and is mostly a reboot of him. This will be a more relevant way of representing Golden Sun. But both are very likely, but I go with Matthew.

Starfy - Starfy is one of the most likely, he's had 3 GBA installments, a 4th on DS, and a fifth western release on DS. He has become a pretty big Nintendo All-Star and has a lot of Move Set Potential. I suggest others add him.

Sheriff - He was the first Nintendo game (not counting Computer Othello.) as well as an international arcade title, he can represent the arcade and his status of recognition is similar to that of Ice Climbers.

Mewtwo - Mewtwo will return. There is no question about it. What will be of his upgraded awakened form though? My guess is that you earn this through battle or Final Smash and maybe lose it when KO'd. Footage of the movie: "Extreme Speed Genesect: Mewtwo's Awakening" that this new form is in fact more powerful and faster. He only changes back to Mewtwo when he is weakened or done fighting. So it makes sense to be a form that you earn, but don't keep forever as it's powers are limited.

New! Eevee - Eevee has proved to be one of the most popular and promoted Pokemon in game and anime. More so than Jigglypuff, I feel Eevee could easily replace her and take her Sleep and Punch move. With the risk of an all veteran Pokemon roster, I feel Jigglypuff or Lucario should be cut.

Genesect - My newest addition. I didn't add Genesect because he's a new Pokemon, I added him because we need a Pokemon that hasn't already been playable. Genesect fits the description Sakurai gave on how he adds Pokemon characters. Genesect being in SSB seems very likely and has so much potential. He has became greatly popular in Japan as well.

Paper Mario - Bowser Jr is very likely to be the 5th Mario rep, but I see Paper Mario to be more preferred and unique. It just seems like the more logical choice. (See the move set I made at the bottom of this post.)

Bomberman - Konami has recently acquired one of the most popular/iconic third-party characters from the deceased Hudson Soft. Bomberman has had as much affiliation with Nintendo as any of the third-parties if not more and has had games on practically every game machine since NES. It hasn't been confirmed that third-parties like Snake will return and Sakurai and Konami may want to make use of this character especially since we can expect a new age of Bomberman due to his recent buyout of a major gaming company.

Snake - Most games that have guest characters usually only have them once. If any game does that it should be Smash Bros. I'm sure Sakurai may want to prioritize Nintendo Characters in a Nintendo fighting game, and not have too many Third-Parties. We could have Sonic, Snake, and Mega Man, and though it's hard to imagine SSB without Sonic, there is the possibility either 3 will be too many and Sakurai may want a second third-party to have a chance. I just don't see third-parties as veterans, but Sonic seems too popular to leave. (I know Snake was added as a favor, but it was a request for him to make an appearance, not be a veteran for life. That'd be a pretty huge favor)

Lucario/JigglyPuff - It's likely due to Mewtwo being higher priority, more popular, and easily has similar yet better abilites than Lucario, that he may replace him. However it's likely JigglyPuff could be replaced due to being not as relevant or popular as the old days. I think it's important for each Pokemon to be as different from each other as much as possible.

Mii - I think it's obvious he will use moves from Wii Sports, Wii Party, StreetPass Quest, and maybe even Pilot Wings Resort.

Costumes:

Villagette - I predict half of Villagers colors will be Boy, and the other half will be girl.

Dry Bowser - Either 1 costume or a second set like Wario & Villager.

If you have opinions or constructive Criticism, please give suggestions below. Tell me if you think I should go back to my old roster.

(Credit to Ariand/AEM for making the Icons of Palutena, Little Mac, Sheriff, and Mii)

NEW! Official Paper Mario Move Set by SaturnGamer64!

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Special Animations:

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Entrance: Unfolds
Jump 1: Normal jump animation
Jump 2-5: Parakarry
Mid-Air Dodge: Bow
Rolling Animation: Vivian. Takes Mario underground and comes back up where his roll animation would end.
Swimming: Sushie OR Paper Boat
Sheild: When using sheild, Mario ducks pulling his hat over his head as he does in the game.
Duck: Folds himself
Holding Item: Paper Mario is the first character to hold an item above his head in traditional video game fashion.
Grab: Uses the Pixl; Thoreu. This is a long range grab.
Holding Jump in Mid-air: This turns Paper Mario into an Airplane.

Actual Moves:

A: Punch
AA: Punch, Punch
AAA: Punch, Punch, Hammer

F-tilt: Flip Flop Sticker
D-tilt: Tanooki Tail Sticker
U-tilt: Spiny Hat Sticker

U-throw: Uses Thoreu to throw character upwards.
D-throw: Throws character down and rolls up into a tube form, then proceeds to grind back and forth on the character.
F-throw: Hits the character sideways with a hammer.


N-air: Crumples up into ball just like Wolf & Sonic's N-Air attack.
U-air: Boomer. This Pixl explodes
F-air: Watt. Mario Holds out Watt and he shocks characters obviously
D-air: Spinning Ground Pound

Running attack: Trips and falls. (Same animation used when entering a battle in the first Paper Mario)

U-smash: Fire Flower Sticker. Charge it and Fireballs spit out the top of the flower.
D-smash: Bombette. The longer you charge, the further Bombette walks.
F-smash: Slap Hammer, charging this makes Mario do a spin attack with his hammer.

Neutral-B: Hammer. You charge this attack, if you charge it too long, the head falls off causing only 1% damage. The head can be picked up and thrown as an item.
Forward-B: HurlHammer (BaaHammer, BurnHammer, ChillHammer) A different Hammer is thrown each time, the BaaHammer making you fall asleep, The ChillHammer freezes you, and the BurnHammer burns you.
Down-B: Kooper/Koops. Works as it does in game. You kick the shell and it comes back to you, Like the game it does not fall of cliffs and it can pick up items.
Up-B: Barry. This Pixl creates a Spiky Barrier around Paper Mario. This move is limited and must be charged similar to R.O.B.'s beam and Wario's Fart.

U-Taunt: Kersti
D-Taunt: Focus
F-Taunt: Appeal
Special Taunt: Goombette comes out and does an analysis of the opponent just like Fox, Falco, and Snake.

FINAL SMASH: Star Spirits

NEW! Eevee's Specials

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Neutral Special: Hyper Voice
Forward Special: Tail Whip (Similar to Jigglypuff's punch, but can stun.)
Upward Special: Yawn
Downward Special: Rest

Bonus: Starter Roster (My predictions of characters you will have at the beginning of the game.)

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[kingmario92]

New Roster Update: Version 5.0 (New! Move Set for Paper Mario and specials for Eevee included.)

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DISCLAIMER: Eevee and Mewtwo are my replacements for JigglyPuff and Lucario. I do not assure the removal of these characters. But, in such a case these are the newcomer Pokemon I predict. I do realize reasons to keep these 2. I however realize reasons to add newcomer Pokemon as well. Also it's very likely characters will get cut, and Pokemon is a roster that should move forward through games rather than stay the same.

Is that all that changed? I don't notice anything different.

 

[Opossum]

I need to ask...what would be wrong with having an all-veteran Pokemon roster, Noah? They're all popular Pokemon, so why not ensure they all come back?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Really? I thought he only brought up the whole "Recency" thing. I'd didn't see anyone bring up, oh I don't know, advertisements.

My point was that those are the same thing.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Oh, and while the topic of recency is still in play, let me state that the subject alone is not exactly a good enough reason. Other factors like bringing something new to the table, being able to attract players to the game, and being able to contribute to balance within the game are also taken into consideration. There is never just one factor, there is actually a lot of factors to keep in mind when it comes to carefully choosing the right characters.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I need to ask...what would be wrong with having an all-veteran Pokemon roster, Noah? They're all popular Pokemon, so why not ensure they all come back?

A lot of us would be disappointed with that. I want all those characters to return, but we also want the chance to play as a different Pokemon. Having an all veteran roster could happen, but Sakurai may not want that and a lot of us don't. At least replace Jigglyuff. (I'm not a hater of Jigglypuff, I love jiggs.)

Oh, and while the topic of recency is still in play, let me state that the subject alone is not exactly a good enough reason. Other factors like bringing something new to the table, being able to attract players to the game, and being able to contribute to balance within the game are also taken into consideration. There is never just one factor, there is actually a lot of factors to keep in mind when it comes to carefully choosing the right characters.

Did you get that, DivineDeity?

Noah

Saturn is a more preferable name thank you.

 

[kingmario92]

Did you get that, DivineDeity?

 

[Gune]

Well okay lets take a look at your roster then..

Eevee and Mewtwo are my replacements for JigglyPuff and Lucario.

but bomberman is cool.

 

[Arcadenik]

I need to ask...what would be wrong with having an all-veteran Pokemon roster, Noah? They're all popular Pokemon, so why not ensure they all come back?

Because it's boring. I don't want to keep on playing as the same Pokémon for 20 years. I mean... really... by the time SSB5 comes out in 2021, we would have had almost 30 years of Pokémon history and we are stuck with the same Pokemon since 2001-2008?

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Eevee is more deserving than Jigglypuff and we need some newcomers. And Mewtwo has proved more deserving than Lucario.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Eevee is more deserving than Jigglypuff and we need some newcomers.

I think that Meowth should get in before Eevee does, he seems to have more importance than Eevee.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I think that Meowth should get in before Eevee does, he seems to have more importance than Eevee.

I haven't seen him promoted outside of the Anime character from Team Rocket.

 

[SuperBrawler]

I think that Meowth should get in before Eevee does, he seems to have more importance than Eevee.

I thought I was the only who thought that.

 

[MagnesD3]

This game is meant to celebrate all stars not randoms the non clone vets should always be in there.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

This game is meant to celebrate all stars not randoms the non clone vets should always be in there.

Should use characters because they are popular All-Stars, not Popular Smash Veterans. How is Jigglypuff an All-Star over Eevee?