Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[TheLastJinjo]

Impa - An important character to the Zelda Franchise that is good enough to warrant a spot.
C.Syrup - If Wario represents everything WarioWare, a character to represent the WarioLand side of his games would be good.
Sylveon - I've already explained everything I can on Sylveon's inclusion.
Prince Fluff - The unique style of gaming deserves some recognition, and what better way to do so than with a character from the game that started it?

Impa - Impa never played a Major role in her games. She's Zelda's servant. Link's the main character, Zelda's the princess in the title of the series, Ganondorf is the main villian, Tingle had his own spin-offs and fans, Toon Link was also a main character as well as a necessary version of Link, and before you use Skull Kid as an example, he was portrayed as the main antagonist and if that doesn't count Majora's Mask WAS and he is present with Skull Kid, who was also played a major role in the most remembered of Zelda games. Not that there needs to be another pointless Skull Kid discussion.

Sylveon - I wouldn't add her until X & Y has neared release and the mascot of the game is confirmed.

Classic Link- Toon Link has more uniqueness and logic.

Prince Fluff - Very unlikely, All the Kirby characters necessary are present and Major.

Poke'mon Trainer - Sir, what are you doing? Put him back on the roster.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Sorry, couldn't make it look great. What is a "Smash roster maker"?

The Super Smash Bros Roster Maker is a program you can download that is specially built to allow you to make your own custom rosters, with a huge array of icons and characters to choose from. I'm sure if you search it, you'll find a thread on this site regarding it.

Impa - Impa never played a Major role in her games. She's Zelda's servant. Link's the main character, Zelda's the princess in the title of the series, Ganondorf is the main villian, Tingle had his own spin-offs and fans, Toon Link was also a main character as well as a necessary version of Link, and before you use Skull Kid as an example, he was portrayed as the main antagonist and if that doesn't count Majora's Mask WAS and he is present with Skull Kid, who was also played a major role in the most remembered of Zelda games. Not that there needs to be another pointless Skull Kid discussion.

Sylveon - I wouldn't add her until X & Y has neared release and the mascot of the game is confirmed.

Classic Link- Toon Link has more uniqueness and logic.

Prince Fluff - Very unlikely, All the Kirby characters necessary are present and Major.

Poke'mon Trainer - Sir, what are you doing? Put him back on the roster.

1) - Impa is still important even if she's not the main character, she's been a big help to both Link and Zelda throughout games in the franchise and has lately gotten a huge popularity spike thanks to her appearance in Skyward Sword, which is probably the biggest role she's had in a game so far.

2.) Uniqueness? Maybe. Logic? No.

3.) You could always add Dark Matter, as it's the overall main antagonist of the franchise.

4.) I see no importance in the Pokemon Trainer anymore than just to stop the Charizard fans from crying. Pokemon Trainer's popularity as a character is not incredibly high, and if it were to be the same trainer with the exact same pokemon, it's nothing more than an excuse to keep Charizard in the game, which is bull$#!%.

5.) I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume the overall mascots of Gen 6 are Sylveon and Awakened Mewtwo, both early revealed that are already becoming immensly popular as each day passes. And since Sylveon is adorable and Japan likes cute things...I can see Sylveon having a future as a mascot of sorts.

 

[Deleted member]

"Impa" and "awesome" should never be in the same sentence unless there is a "is not" inbetween them.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I'd like to get some input on this thought I've been having:

Seeing as Brawl had a lot to do with Gamecube era content, I think it would be safe to say that a large amount of content will be derived from the Wii era, along with late DS and early 3DS. With this in mind, I compiled this list of 12 characters.

Basically, the characters in this list are highly requested in some form or another. Not to say that others aren't, but this is a list I made spur of the moment, so bare with me.

Most of these characters have made an appearance at some point or another during the Wii, DS, 3DS era. Others have not. This ideology would prove beneficial to other character , but not to others.

For example, if we take the prominence of Ridley during this era, starring in Metroid Prime 3, and Other M, which were both big games for the Wii this could bode well for him. However, with both Prime 1 and 2 on Gamecube, and no Ridley in Brawl, this argument is basically neutralized.

However, if we compare Krystal, she didn't appear on the Wii in a Star Fox installment at all. Star Fox nor F-Zero were given a new installment in the latest era, which is something Sakurai will surely notice.

Isaac is in a similar position. However I won't comment on him as much because i'm too lazy to look up when the latest Golden Sun came out.

K.Rool, to me, is an exception. Similar to Diddy in Brawl, K.Rool didn't appear very often in Donkey Kong releases. However, I believe that the fact that he is such a well known icon to the DK series, that he will triumph.

Shulk and Xenoblade Chronicles are incredibly popular from the Wii era. While it didn't gross as much as say Mario or Zelda, Xenoblade is a great game that was given a lot of publicity. With the upcoming title "X", it is very possible that Shulk could return, or at the very least that it will be a spiritual sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles.

Chrom is the latest Fire Emblem lord, while Roy is not. However, one of two things could happen. If Sakurai chooses to bring Roy back, I doubt we'll see Chrom. If Intelligent Systems decides on Chrom, Sakurai MAY choose him. Who knows at this point?

Thoughts?

 

[Opossum]

I'd like to get some input on this thought I've been having:

Seeing as Brawl had a lot to do with Gamecube era content, I think it would be safe to say that a large amount of content will be derived from the Wii era, along with late DS and early 3DS. With this in mind, I compiled this list of 12 characters.

Basically, the characters in this list are highly requested in some form or another. Not to say that others aren't, but this is a list I made spur of the moment, so bare with me.

Most of these characters have made an appearance at some point or another during the Wii, DS, 3DS era. Others have not. This ideology would prove beneficial to other character , but not to others.

For example, if we take the prominence of Ridley during this era, starring in Metroid Prime 3, and Other M, which were both big games for the Wii this could bode well for him. However, with both Prime 1 and 2 on Gamecube, and no Ridley in Brawl, this argument is basically neutralized.

However, if we compare Krystal, she didn't appear on the Wii in a Star Fox installment at all. Star Fox nor F-Zero were given a new installment in the latest era, which is something Sakurai will surely notice.

Isaac is in a similar position. However I won't comment on him as much because i'm too lazy to look up when the latest Golden Sun came out.

K.Rool, to me, is an exception. Similar to Diddy in Brawl, K.Rool didn't appear very often in Donkey Kong releases. However, I believe that the fact that he is such a well known icon to the DK series, that he will triumph.

Shulk and Xenoblade Chronicles are incredibly popular from the Wii era. While it didn't gross as much as say Mario or Zelda, Xenoblade is a great game that was given a lot of publicity. With the upcoming title "X", it is very possible that Shulk could return, or at the very least that it will be a spiritual sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles.

Chrom is the latest Fire Emblem lord, while Roy is not. However, one of two things could happen. If Sakurai chooses to bring Roy back, I doubt we'll see Chrom. If Intelligent Systems decides on Chrom, Sakurai MAY choose him. Who knows at this point?

Thoughts?

I think this is a rather fair analysis. In all honesty, I would be surprised if we got another newcomer reveal, and it falls outside of these 12 characters. I definitely feel these 12 are the leaders of the pack, so to speak.

 

[N3ON]

"Impa" and "awesome" should never be in the same sentence unless there is a "is not" inbetween them.

Impa is not too bad of a choice, I actually think she'd be pretty awesome.

 

[jaytalks]

I'd like to get some input on this thought I've been having:

Seeing as Brawl had a lot to do with Gamecube era content, I think it would be safe to say that a large amount of content will be derived from the Wii era, along with late DS and early 3DS. With this in mind, I compiled this list of 12 characters.

Basically, the characters in this list are highly requested in some form or another. Not to say that others aren't, but this is a list I made spur of the moment, so bare with me.

Most of these characters have made an appearance at some point or another during the Wii, DS, 3DS era. Others have not. This ideology would prove beneficial to other character , but not to others.

For example, if we take the prominence of Ridley during this era, starring in Metroid Prime 3, and Other M, which were both big games for the Wii this could bode well for him. However, with both Prime 1 and 2 on Gamecube, and no Ridley in Brawl, this argument is basically neutralized.

However, if we compare Krystal, she didn't appear on the Wii in a Star Fox installment at all. Star Fox nor F-Zero were given a new installment in the latest era, which is something Sakurai will surely notice.

Isaac is in a similar position. However I won't comment on him as much because i'm too lazy to look up when the latest Golden Sun came out.

K.Rool, to me, is an exception. Similar to Diddy in Brawl, K.Rool didn't appear very often in Donkey Kong releases. However, I believe that the fact that he is such a well known icon to the DK series, that he will triumph.

Shulk and Xenoblade Chronicles are incredibly popular from the Wii era. While it didn't gross as much as say Mario or Zelda, Xenoblade is a great game that was given a lot of publicity. With the upcoming title "X", it is very possible that Shulk could return, or at the very least that it will be a spiritual sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles.

Chrom is the latest Fire Emblem lord, while Roy is not. However, one of two things could happen. If Sakurai chooses to bring Roy back, I doubt we'll see Chrom. If Intelligent Systems decides on Chrom, Sakurai MAY choose him. Who knows at this point?

Thoughts?

I definitely agree with the line of thinking for Smash. Smash tends to reflect the previous generation.

I always try to have a 5th gen representative Pokemon, its just none of them really stand out much more than the others. Genesect and Zoroark appear to. N to me is Generation 5, but I don't know a way his character could work.

Last Golden Sun release was Dark Dawn on the DS in 2010. I give Shulk the edge over other swords users like Isaac because of Xenoblade Chronicles.

Little Mac is definitely aided by his Wii revival. Palutena is helped by her 3DS revival, and the fact that she actually fights in it (twice, kind of).

That's my point about Roy. Nothing has changed with Roy as a character, but Fire Emblem as a franchise has changed. So that's why I think an Awakening based rep is more likely.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

The Super Smash Bros Roster Maker is a program you can download that is specially built to allow you to make your own custom rosters, with a huge array of icons and characters to choose from. I'm sure if you search it, you'll find a thread on this site regarding it.



1) - Impa is still important even if she's not the main character, she's been a big help to both Link and Zelda throughout games in the franchise and has lately gotten a huge popularity spike thanks to her appearance in Skyward Sword, which is probably the biggest role she's had in a game so far.

2.) Uniqueness? Maybe. Logic? No.

3.) You could always add Dark Matter, as it's the overall main antagonist of the franchise.

4.) I see no importance in the Pokemon Trainer anymore than just to stop the Charizard fans from crying. Pokemon Trainer's popularity as a character is not incredibly high, and if it were to be the same trainer with the exact same pokemon, it's nothing more than an excuse to keep Charizard in the game, which is bull$#!%.

5.) I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume the overall mascots of Gen 6 are Sylveon and Awakened Mewtwo, both early revealed that are already becoming immensly popular as each day passes. And since Sylveon is adorable and Japan likes cute things...I can see Sylveon having a future as a mascot of sorts.

Might I remind you that removing Poke'mon Trainer means not only removing the main character, but THREE Poke'mon! Yeah, it's just an excuse for Charizard. I'm sure you have plenty to back that up.

Did you seriously just claim that there is no logic in Toon Link???????????????? Will you please elaborate to us all this hannis statement you have just made. You don't get to say a major Smash character like Toon Link has no logic and then add Classic Link a character with almost no logic outside a new game that's hardly newer than a remake. You said he's MAYBE unique and proceed to add a character no where near as unique? Explain that logic after you've explained why you think Toon Link is illogical.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I'd like to get some input on this thought I've been having:

Seeing as Brawl had a lot to do with Gamecube era content, I think it would be safe to say that a large amount of content will be derived from the Wii era, along with late DS and early 3DS. With this in mind, I compiled this list of 12 characters.

Basically, the characters in this list are highly requested in some form or another. Not to say that others aren't, but this is a list I made spur of the moment, so bare with me.

Most of these characters have made an appearance at some point or another during the Wii, DS, 3DS era. Others have not. This ideology would prove beneficial to other character , but not to others.

For example, if we take the prominence of Ridley during this era, starring in Metroid Prime 3, and Other M, which were both big games for the Wii this could bode well for him. However, with both Prime 1 and 2 on Gamecube, and no Ridley in Brawl, this argument is basically neutralized.

However, if we compare Krystal, she didn't appear on the Wii in a Star Fox installment at all. Star Fox nor F-Zero were given a new installment in the latest era, which is something Sakurai will surely notice.

Isaac is in a similar position. However I won't comment on him as much because i'm too lazy to look up when the latest Golden Sun came out.

K.Rool, to me, is an exception. Similar to Diddy in Brawl, K.Rool didn't appear very often in Donkey Kong releases. However, I believe that the fact that he is such a well known icon to the DK series, that he will triumph.

Shulk and Xenoblade Chronicles are incredibly popular from the Wii era. While it didn't gross as much as say Mario or Zelda, Xenoblade is a great game that was given a lot of publicity. With the upcoming title "X", it is very possible that Shulk could return, or at the very least that it will be a spiritual sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles.

Chrom is the latest Fire Emblem lord, while Roy is not. However, one of two things could happen. If Sakurai chooses to bring Roy back, I doubt we'll see Chrom. If Intelligent Systems decides on Chrom, Sakurai MAY choose him. Who knows at this point?

Thoughts?

I think that is a pretty fair analysis. With the exception of Zoroark and Roy, I would say most of those characters are highly requested/expected and, in some order, I think we will probably see any number of them in Smash 4. I feel that Zoroark's support and likeliness is slowly slipping away while, Roy, despite being heavily requested in Japan, doesn't seem to be fairing well either. Krystal has a very vocal support but mostly in the West. They all possess the requirements that Sakurai looks for in a possible candidate, represents their series well, and can bring something unique to Smash (both as a character and as a representation.)

I think those characters reflect the thoughts and opinions on Smash 4 speculators.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Might I remind you that removing Poke'mon Trainer means not only removing the main character, but THREE Poke'mon! Yeah, it's just an excuse for Charizard. I'm sure you have plenty to back that up.

Did you seriously just claim that there is no logic in Toon Link???????????????? Will you please elaborate to us all this hannis statement you have just made. You don't get to say a major Smash character like Toon Link has no logic and then add Classic Link a character with almost no logic outside a new game that's hardly newer than a remake. You said he's MAYBE unique and proceed to add a character no where near as unique? Explain that logic after you've explained why you think Toon Link is illogical.

Charizard is the biggest pokemon in the world, it's adored by fans, loved by all, and the most overrated Pokemon to ever exist. The Pokemon trainer as a character...not very popular, low-tiered, and not liked by a general consensus of people. Charizard's image is the only positive to his character, therefore he's the only reason he should stay around. I wouldn't go around saying "I'm sure you have plenty to back that up" when you yourself talk yourself in circles.

As for the Classic/Toon Link discussion, I don't even care enough to get into a debacle with you on it, because even if you're proven wrong, you can't accept it. That and the fact that others have explained it far better than I can since it's something so small to get angry over it's not even funny. By the way, guess who that "Someone gonna be mad " was for.

 

[Deleted member]

Charizard is the biggest pokemon in the world

Pretty sure that's Wailord.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Charizard is the biggest pokemon in the world, it's adored by fans, loved by all, and the most overrated Pokemon to ever exist. The Pokemon trainer as a character...not very popular, low-tiered, and not liked by a general consensus of people. Charizard's image is the only positive to his character, therefore he's the only reason he should stay around. I wouldn't go around saying "I'm sure you have plenty to back that up" when you yourself talk yourself in circles.

I believe the Pokemon Trainer was wanted pre-Brawl in Japan, low-tiered doesn't have anything to do with if he should be removed or not if it did Link and Samus would have been removed from 64, Kirby, Bowser, Ness, and Yoshi in Melee, and the Zelda trio in Brawl, and most people seem to like him or at least what I've seen. Squirtle and Ivysaur are also very popular Pokemon, the Pokemon Trainer is the main protagonist of Pokemon being the person who you actually play as, Red has been in every single Pokemon generation, and programming him wouldn't be that hard as the hardest time for programming him would be Brawl but we still got him. There is no reason as to why we shouldn't have Pokemon Trainer in SSB4

 

[jaytalks]

I would prefer Pokemon Trainer to Mewtwo and Lucario, as long as we got some type of generation 5 or 6 rep.

 

[LittleKrool]

Whoo, This is way better then using PainDotNet.​

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Charizard is the biggest pokemon in the world, it's adored by fans, loved by all, and the most overrated Pokemon to ever exist. The Pokemon trainer as a character...not very popular, low-tiered, and not liked by a general consensus of people. Charizard's image is the only positive to his character, therefore he's the only reason he should stay around. I wouldn't go around saying "I'm sure you have plenty to back that up" when you yourself talk yourself in circles.

As for the Classic/Toon Link discussion, I don't even care enough to get into a debacle with you on it, because even if you're proven wrong, you can't accept it. That and the fact that others have explained it far better than I can since it's something so small to get angry over it's not even funny. By the way, guess who that "Someone gonna be mad " was for.

I think Pokemon Trainer should stay. He has a unique "gimmick", and keep in mind that the trainer in question is Red from R/G/B/Y and FR/LG, the original Pokemon protagonist.
The various player characters are not as iconic as the Pokemon themselves, but still.

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[Hotfeet444]

Pretty sure that's Wailord.

Hide your Skitties.

I believe the Pokemon Trainer was wanted pre-Brawl in Japan, low-tiered doesn't have anything to do with if he should be removed or not if it did Link and Samus would have been removed from 64, Kirby, Bowser, Ness, and Yoshi in Melee, and the Zelda trio in Brawl, and most people seem to like him or at least what I've seen. Squirtle and Ivysaur are also very popular Pokemon, the Pokemon Trainer is the main protagonist of Pokemon being the person who you actually play as, Red has been in every single Pokemon generation, and programming him wouldn't be that hard as the hardest time for programming him would be Brawl but we still got him. There is no reason as to why we shouldn't have Pokemon Trainer in SSB4

The fact still doesn't change that the pokemon can be implemented to represent more recent pokemon games since more and more people are playing Pokemon these days. This is the character of the good ol days, when us ourselves were kids and playing Pokemon Red/Blue and the early gens, it was good. But we're past that, and the only reason Red got any recognition was mainly because of the Red/Green remakes FireRed/LeafGreen. It's been nine years since then and we're now in turn about to start a new journey in Kalos, Red has become a thing of the past. The only thing that seems to be his saving grace is Charizard. And while yes, Squirtle and Ivysaur are very popular, they're not giant representatives of the series as a whole, as are none of the starters, the starters are all there to represent the gen they come from and games they were available in. Charizard just gets special billing due to being in the anime.

 

[Autumn ♫]

The fact still doesn't change that the pokemon can be implemented to represent more recent pokemon games since more and more people are playing Pokemon these days. This is the character of the good ol days, when us ourselves were kids and playing Pokemon Red/Blue and the early gens, it was good. But we're past that, and the only reason Red got any recognition was mainly because of the Red/Green remakes FireRed/LeafGreen. It's been nine years since then and we're now in turn about to start a new journey in Kalos, Red has become a thing of the past. The only thing that seems to be his saving grace is Charizard. And while yes, Squirtle and Ivysaur are very popular, they're not giant representatives of the series as a whole, as are none of the starters, the starters are all there to represent the gen they come from and games they were available in. Charizard just gets special billing due to being in the anime.

Red has also appeared in generation 2,4,and 5. I wouldn't say it would be too much of a stretch to say he may appear in generation 6 also. He also represents a main protagonist and a boss character in Pokemon, which is what he will probably be if he gets in generation 6.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I think Pokemon Trainer should stay. He has a unique "gimmick", and keep in mind that the trainer in question is Red from R/G/B/Y and FR/LG, the original Pokemon protagonist.
The various player characters are not as iconic as the Pokemon themselves, but still.

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The gimmick was unique yes, but still very odd in itself. I'm just saying if they are going to implement a pokemon trainer, they should try something new and implement different pokemon. Like the idea of a Johto trainer with a Totodile, Grovyle and Charizard, as that is actually possible to achieve in HeartGold/SoulSilver. Some say that may be too long ago, but the Pokemon Trainer/Red's last adventure was four years before the release of Brawl. And what will Ethan/Gold's last adventure be when Smash 4 is released? four years ago as well. A simple change in pokemon is enough to show that it's not just a cheap excuse to keep Charizard, because that's honestly what it looks like.

Red has also appeared in generation 2,4,and 5. I wouldn't say it would be too much of a stretch to say he may appear in generation 6 also. He also represents a main protagonist and a boss character in Pokemon, which is what he will probably be if he gets in generation 6.

Technically he's been in every generation so far, but that's not the point. He's supposed to represent the character you played as in your adventures, we're nine years past that and we're most likely NOT going to play as Red again unless Red and Blue are somehow remade again, which may not be unlikely if Gamefreak wants to do so and introduce the Pokemon players of today to what we played as kids as a bit of a history trip, but it's really up in the air at the moment. Also, I wouldn't be so sure about Red returning in Gen 6, unless there's a PWT, I just don't see it happening. And although this is unrelated, it kind of sucked that Red was by far the worst champion opponent to fight in the PWT as he was just too easy to beat. The challenge of the ultimate trainer just wasn't very well represented in that fight.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Whoo, This is way better then using PainDotNet.​

I would argue against Paper Mario, Ashley, Lyn, Hoenn Trainer, and Bomberman.

If we do get a Mario character, Bowser Jr, and Toad seem the most likely.

I do not see WarioWare receiving a new rep despite how cool it would be for Ashley to be included. It doesn't warrant a new rep.

I do not see us getting two new FE reps this time around. Three altogether seems more likely. Lyn is not a particularly strong candidate and is often overshadowed by Chrom, Roy, and Lucina. I don't see Smash 4 having four FE reps and Lyn being one of them.

Much like Ike, I do not see PKMN trainer getting replaced, As mentioned earlier, Charizard is largely one of the most famous and popular Pokemon around. Despite being a Gen 1, his name and image is largely known to even younger audience members who were introduced to Pokemon at B/W. If anything, PKMN Trainer would go in exchange for just Charizard.

Finally, Bomberman is Konami; not Hudson. There is a unsaid, strict one 3rd party character per company so it's either Snake or Bomberman; with Snake being the most likely to return.

Several titles in the 2000s were published by fellow Japanese game company Konami, who gained full control of the franchise when they purchased and absorbed Hudson in 2012

I applaud your inclusion of King K. Rool, Little Mac, and Palutena but neutral to Krystal. Not a huge fan. I do not think she should replace Wolf. It would have made more sense for SSBB.

Finally, I find your lack of Ridley or lack of any metroid rep disappointing.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Impa is not too bad of a choice, I actually think she'd be pretty awesome.

Go home N3ON, you're drunk.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Go home N3ON, you're drunk.

Okay, I must seriously know...WHAT DID THE MONKEY DO?!

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'd like to get some input on this thought I've been having:

Seeing as Brawl had a lot to do with Gamecube era content, I think it would be safe to say that a large amount of content will be derived from the Wii era, along with late DS and early 3DS. With this in mind, I compiled this list of 12 characters.

Basically, the characters in this list are highly requested in some form or another. Not to say that others aren't, but this is a list I made spur of the moment, so bare with me.

Most of these characters have made an appearance at some point or another during the Wii, DS, 3DS era. Others have not. This ideology would prove beneficial to other character , but not to others.

For example, if we take the prominence of Ridley during this era, starring in Metroid Prime 3, and Other M, which were both big games for the Wii this could bode well for him. However, with both Prime 1 and 2 on Gamecube, and no Ridley in Brawl, this argument is basically neutralized.

However, if we compare Krystal, she didn't appear on the Wii in a Star Fox installment at all. Star Fox nor F-Zero were given a new installment in the latest era, which is something Sakurai will surely notice.

Isaac is in a similar position. However I won't comment on him as much because i'm too lazy to look up when the latest Golden Sun came out.

K.Rool, to me, is an exception. Similar to Diddy in Brawl, K.Rool didn't appear very often in Donkey Kong releases. However, I believe that the fact that he is such a well known icon to the DK series, that he will triumph.

Shulk and Xenoblade Chronicles are incredibly popular from the Wii era. While it didn't gross as much as say Mario or Zelda, Xenoblade is a great game that was given a lot of publicity. With the upcoming title "X", it is very possible that Shulk could return, or at the very least that it will be a spiritual sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles.

Chrom is the latest Fire Emblem lord, while Roy is not. However, one of two things could happen. If Sakurai chooses to bring Roy back, I doubt we'll see Chrom. If Intelligent Systems decides on Chrom, Sakurai MAY choose him. Who knows at this point?

Thoughts?

What about Starfy? He has tons of support in Japan, and now that his games are released worldwide, it could give good notice to Sakurai.

 

[Swift Fox]

Three Links? For real? XD

 

[N3ON]

What about Starfy? He has tons of support in Japan, and now that his games are released worldwide, it could give good notice to Sakurai.

He doesn't have tons of support in Japan. It's a bit more than here, but it's not like he's among the most requested. Especially since it's been like five years since the last Starfy game there.

 

[BluePikmin11]

So Isaac's support worldwide actually beats Starfy's?

 

[N3ON]

So Isaac's support worldwide actually beats Starfy's?

Starfy is currently more popular than Isaac in Japan, but overall... probably. Japan is really the only region Starfy is more popular than Isaac, and NA and Europe are a lot bigger than Japan (though Japan usually gets priority for Smash).

 

[FlareHabanero]

For the record, the character that gets the most requests for "unrepped" series in Japan is Shulk.

In other regions it varies, but Little Mac is pretty up there.

 

[Autumn ♫]

For the record, the character that gets the most requests for "unrepped" series in Japan is Shulk.

In other regions it varies, but Little Mac is up there.

Shulk ftw! Hope he gets in SSB4.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Well, well. Good evening gents. What's on the agenda for tonight?

 

[Gune]

Well, well. Good evening gents. What's on the agenda for tonight?

Same thing we do every night...TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD *que pinky and the brain theme song*

 

[LittleKrool]

I would argue against Paper Mario, Ashley, Lyn, Hoenn Trainer, and Bomberman.

If we do get a Mario character, Bowser Jr, and Toad seem the most likely.

I do not see WarioWare receiving a new rep despite how cool it would be for Ashley to be included. It doesn't warrant a new rep.

I do not see us getting two new FE reps this time around. Three altogether seems more likely. Lyn is not a particularly strong candidate and is often overshadowed by Chrom, Roy, and Lucina. I don't see Smash 4 having four FE reps and Lyn being one of them.

Much like Ike, I do not see PKMN trainer getting replaced, As mentioned earlier, Charizard is largely one of the most famous and popular Pokemon around. Despite being a Gen 1, his name and image is largely known to even younger audience members who were introduced to Pokemon at B/W. If anything, PKMN Trainer would go in exchange for just Charizard.

Finally, Bomberman is Konami; not Hudson. There is a unsaid, strict one 3rd party character per company so it's either Snake or Bomberman; with Snake being the most likely to return.



I applaud your inclusion of King K. Rool, Little Mac, and Palutena but neutral to Krystal. Not a huge fan. I do not think she should replace Wolf. It would have made more sense for SSBB.

Finally, I find your lack of Ridley or lack of any metroid rep disappointing.

Papaer mario would have a way better moveset then Bowser Jr, Toad is alreay up in peach's dress, Bomerman was random, I was looking at what people wanted, stop asking about ashley, lyn was becuase I ran out of ideas, metroid doesn't need a rep, need more room for wario.
Krystal was random.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Same thing we do every night...TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD

Awwwwhhhh yeahhhhhhhh!!!!!!

 

[Swift Fox]

1. Play game (SSBB)
2. Start another Wii
3. read/write argument in smashboards
4. Wario infinite FS hack used for TP (Taunt Party) crash and freeze all taunters' Wiis so taunters won't see each others again and had to restart their wiis
5. TP crash with hack again for lulz
6. Again.
7. another Wii got into same group where I am in main Wii
8. Test what freezing Wii look like
9. Restart frozen Wii
10. two same characters, two controllers on my hands, taunt at the exact same time to confuse the hell outta taunters
10. TAKE OVER THE BRAWL ONLINE! WHOO!

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Papaer mario would have a way better moveset then Bowser Jr,

That is entirely biased. Statistically speaking, Bowser Jr has usually scored higher than Paper Mario. Toad on the other hand has a pretty dedicated fan base.

Toad is alreay up in peach's dress

And that could always be changed. You have Palutena yet she was in Pit's Final Smash. I take back what I said earlier. In terms of pulls, Paper Mario does do better than Toad. However, both have the potential of great move sets as well as a cloned move set (with Toad having a less likely chance of having a cloned move set than Paper Mario.)

Bomerman was random, I was looking at what people wanted, lyn was becuase I ran out of ideas, Krystal was random.

I am having trouble processing this. What exactly counts for random? I am taking that you were missing a character spot and just decided to throw in a character? When you include a character, there should be logic involved (if you are trying to predict the roster). Saying they are just random does not help your argument nor your roster. Why did you include Krystal? Why do you think she deserves a spot. Same goes for Bomberman and Lyn.

metroid doesn't need a rep, need more room for wario.

Metroid is one of the most under-represented franchises in Smash not to mention one of it's characters, Ridley, has been the most requested characters prior to SSBM. Metroid does have a lack of viable reps outside of Ridley. However, to not include him this time around would be ridiculous.

As for Wario, I am not discounting a new rep but it seems fairly unlikely. I would like to compare Palutena and Ashley. Both Kid Icarus and WarioWare are new franchises to Smash but, logically speaking, Kid Icarus is the most likely to receive a new rep (with that rep most likely being Palutena).

In contrast, Ashley doesn't have the support, popularity, or relevancy to help represent WarioWare alongside it's main hero, Wario. She is more of a minor character in comparison. i suspect that including Ashley was more of a biased stand on your point, which is fine. Personal opinion is welcomed but please use some evidence to support why you think Ashley is likely.

stop asking about ashley

If you put your roster on this thread, you should be prepared to defend it. Ashley is a pretty unlikely and controversial choice so obviously people are going to jump on that. As well, using Random as an excuse isn't going to cut it. Most people in this thread view rosters as prediction rosters and the characters you choose are characters you firmly believe will make an appearance. Can you say that for the characters you chose to include?

Overall, I did like your roster actually. My biggest complaint is Bomberman and the lack of Ridley/Metroid rep.

 

[TheCreator]

How many posts are you going to make that simply aren't true. Not one. Why do you say things like this? Only to provoke?
And I've said this several times: You can't just use a recent installment as an excuse for a character and give that as the only reason. Never did, you said he represented a different era of game, I said no he represents a different Link in total. Just stop with this already, i don't even know what you're trying to prove, I know that classic Link isn't likely.

Toon Link has way more things to make him more logical than Classic Link. Actually....no. He's more unique because of his design and game style, he IS more popular, and more people want him over Classic Link. Not more unique. Yes more popular. Classic Link can easily be implemented into a costume and already has been. He hasn't, and couldn't be. Recency does not surpass logic. (No **** sherlock.)

Also your other posts are unbelievable. You're saying representing the newest gen has never happened when it always happened. And then you say "Oh, gen 2 wasn't represented in Brawl." (That point was that equal gen representation doesn't matter, I should have figured you wouldn't get it though) YEAH, that's because it wasn't the new gen and neither was Gen 3 in brawl or Melee. Pichu is a gen 2 so Melee DID get the new gen rep. And then after all this you go on and support Classic Link for being the recent installment. I don't support him for being a recent installment. I support him because I hope he makes it into smash. History Lesson:

64's newest was gen 1:

Melee's newest was gen 2:

Brawl's newest was gen 4:

(Thank you I had no idea)

You can't use gen 3 or 5 as an excuse because they were not the newest gen at the time of Melee or SSB4. It doesn't matter. (My point is that generation 6 doesn't require a rep. And regardless of your patterns, it's true. It doesn't REQUIRE a rep because it's the newest generation. Will it get one? I'm pretty sure. But it doesn't need one.)

Lol at you comparing Bomberman to Earthworm Jim & Rayman. Again look him up. He's had games from NES to Wii on almost all consoles and handhelds.
That's true. Ok?
Everybody knows him, (Not True) he's had Nintendo exclusives,(Alrighty? He also has playstation exclusives, and Earthworm Jim and Rayman have Nintendo exclusives as well) he was in Nintendo comics, he appeared alongside Wario on the Gameboy,(That's a good game, They should put it on VC) there were animes,(Ok?) Bomberman Land was a hit,(So was Rayman on and he is one of the most recognized game series. (Nope.) Honestly I'm getting a headache now. take a tylenol *****

Toon Link & Classic Link are NOT on the same level of uniqueness. (Back to THIS? ugh we can argue about this forever man, idc anymore) Classic Link is Young Link with long hair and orange sleeves. Toon Link is a more unique design and has Toon styled attacks, All Classic Link has over Toon Link in uniqueness is Long Hair and Toon Link has more than that. And Toon Link has Classic Link's items because of Four Swords. And Classic Link isn't the newest version of Link (not that it's influential in the decision of which one.) It's simply a call-back to an already existing one.

As for your defense against Sheriff not moving, Pit can't fly on his own, all of Lucas's attacks belong to Kumatora, Olimar doesn't jump, and R.O.B. is a malfunctioning piece of crap that doesn't shoot lasers, or has a jetpack.
(Pit still moves and shoots arrows, and fights with melee. Lucas is a Ness clone so I guess Ness had no attacks either, neither does Link, and R.O.B didn't do **** you are correct.) [These things don't matter. Most retro characters are chosen for their moveset potential, and sheriff has very little opposed to other characters. But when it comes to retros we have no idea who we will get. So seeing Sheriff more likely than other is: (watch this I'm gonna pull a Noah)
"Completely biased and untrue"
Duck Hunt Dog was not playable and was just a dog that made reactions based on the outcome of your performance. He was just the thing people remember most from the game. (Just like R.O.B.? The most well remembered thing about the game? Oh.)

How many of your posts are just biased lies? All of them you see that way

@Hotfeet: Don't add Sylveon until X/Y is released and we know which Poke'mon GameFreak is going to exploit and represent X&Y.

I'm so done, we aren't discussing we are arguing.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

I plan on updating my roster tomorrow

A few things I can think of changing now:

-Replacing Matthew with Adult Isaac
-Replacing Genesect with Zoroark
-Replacing PKMN Trainer Gold with PKMN Trainer Red (but with different Pokemon, repping the first 3 Gens)
-Removing the Mii
-Adjusting my DLC section

 

[BKupa666]

Thoughts [on selection of twelve popular characters]?

I agree with the list for the most part, and would like to see something similar done with twelve potential newcomers who were popular during the pre-Brawl period. In the scenario that the Brawl poll is used to aid in character selection, like the Melee one seemingly was with Brawl, this would give us a good idea of who may have priority in the newcomer pool. This would probably be best if compiled by a forum veteran who witnessed each character's support firsthand back in the day.

 

[kikaru]

Pretty sure that's Wailord.

Despite that I'm pretty sure Wailord is less dense than air...

 

[LittleKrool]

That is entirely biased. Statistically speaking, Bowser Jr has usually scored higher than Paper Mario. Toad on the other hand has a pretty dedicated fan base.



And that could always be changed. You have Palutena yet she was in Pit's Final Smash. I take back what I said earlier. In terms of pulls, Paper Mario does do better than Toad. However, both have the potential of great move sets as well as a cloned move set (with Toad having a less likely chance of having a cloned move set than Paper Mario.)



I am having trouble processing this. What exactly counts for random? I am taking that you were missing a character spot and just decided to throw in a character? When you include a character, there should be logic involved (if you are trying to predict the roster). Saying they are just random does not help your argument nor your roster. Why did you include Krystal? Why do you think she deserves a spot. Same goes for Bomberman and Lyn.



Metroid is one of the most under-represented franchises in Smash not to mention one of it's characters, Ridley, has been the most requested characters prior to SSBM. Metroid does have a lack of viable reps outside of Ridley. However, to not include him this time around would be ridiculous.

As for Wario, I am not discounting a new rep but it seems fairly unlikely. I would like to compare Palutena and Ashley. Both Kid Icarus and WarioWare are new franchises to Smash but, logically speaking, Kid Icarus is the most likely to receive a new rep (with that rep most likely being Palutena).

In contrast, Ashley doesn't have the support, popularity, or relevancy to help represent WarioWare alongside it's main hero, Wario. She is more of a minor character in comparison. i suspect that including Ashley was more of a biased stand on your point, which is fine. Personal opinion is welcomed but please use some evidence to support why you think Ashley is likely.



If you put your roster on this thread, you should be prepared to defend it. Ashley is a pretty unlikely and controversial choice so obviously people are going to jump on that. As well, using Random as an excuse isn't going to cut it. Most people in this thread view rosters as prediction rosters and the characters you choose are characters you firmly believe will make an appearance. Can you say that for the characters you chose to include?

Overall, I did like your roster actually. My biggest complaint is Bomberman and the lack of Ridley/Metroid rep.

I shall! Just because somebody doesn't want someone in the game! doesn't mean they won't, back in 2006, I said wario should be in the next one, a lot of people said no, But he was! Thanks.

Also I was asked To remove Ridley from my roster because he was "to Big"..

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

I shall! Just because somebody doesn't want someone in the game! doesn't mean they won't, back in 2006, I said wario should be in the next one, a lot of people said no, But he was! Thanks.

Also I was asked To remove Ridley from my wishlist because he was "to Big"..

Right! People don't want who I want! That is the triumphing factor for my characters' inclusion! They'll be in because they have opposition! They'll make it in because Wario made it in! Genius!

I like your thought process.