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He also didn't say No Master Chief, Darth Vader, and Homer Simpson. Are you for real, dude? He may not of said "No Namco characters", but he made it pretty clear he is not considering them at all."doesn’t at all mean that they’d be given any special consideration for having characters in the game" Which if you add to the statement "I don't just let any third party character in my game." would lead you to the conclusion of the 99% chance of No Namco characters. Are you seriously trying to deny that. Even the creator of the series himself can not convince you that. There is only so much laughter I can take in one day, good sir. :laugh:

Who's next in line to defend this with an insult rather than actual info.
 

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He also didn't say No Master Chief, Darth Vader, and Homer Simpson. Are you for real, dude? He may not of said "No Namco characters", but he made it pretty clear he is not considering them at all."doesn’t at all mean that they’d be given any special consideration for having characters in the game" Which if you add to the statement "I don't just let any third party character in my game." would lead you to the conclusion of the 99% chance of No Namco characters. Are you seriously trying to deny that. Even the creator of the series himself can not convince you that. There is only so much laughter I can take in one day, good sir. :laugh:

Who's next in line to defend this with an insult rather than actual info.
Except the Namco company has an actual relationship with Nintendo unlike Microsoft who has there own game system. Also we all know that Sakurai doesn't accept characters that didn't originate as video game characters. That is what we call proof. And hey there is always that 1% although the chances are higher then that for Namco. And lastly I believe I haven't actually insulted you in either of these posts.
 

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He also didn't say No Master Chief, Darth Vader, and Homer Simpson. Are you for real, dude? He may not of said "No Namco characters", but he made it pretty clear he is not considering them at all."doesn’t at all mean that they’d be given any special consideration for having characters in the game" Which if you add to the statement "I don't just let any third party character in my game." would lead you to the conclusion of the 99% chance of No Namco characters. Are you seriously trying to deny that. Even the creator of the series himself can not convince you that. There is only so much laughter I can take in one day, good sir. :laugh:

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I like how you twist his words and use extremes.

You'd get far in debate class. (No you wouldn't)

Is Pac-Man just any third party? No. He's a gaming icon. Sakurai never stated that Namco characters wouldn't get in the game. Just that they got no special treatment. They still have to jump through all the hoops. What this statement really says is that you have to be an icon to be in. Snake, Sonic, Megaman, and Pac-Man all fit that criteria.

You are no longer worth arguing. Insults are the only thing you deserve.
Knowing him, he just took that as a compliment.

Or a laugh because he thinks we're morons.

Either way. I hope he learns his lesson soon.
 

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Except the Namco company has an actual relationship with Nintendo unlike Microsoft who has there own game system. Also we all know that Sakurai doesn't accept characters that didn't originate as video game characters. That is what we call proof. And hey there is always that 1% although the chances are higher then that for Namco. And lastly I believe I haven't actually insulted you in either of these posts.
You know I was looking through his posts and he says he's not insulting anybody, but he said that whoever he was responding to's post was super boring and senseless, which on a forum is 10x more insulting than calling Noah a ****** or whatnot.

Noah, you are the bane of this forum, leave. You are worse than the moderator of r/spacedicks
 

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(Edit: I know tons of people have already stated this) Sakurai did say Namco characters wouldn't be in solely because Namco is working on it, but he didn't exactly say it would be impossible to have a Namco character.

We can still get Pac-Man or Lloyd, but it's just that they won't be given special treatment simply for being Namco characters.
 

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I like how you twist his words and use extremes.

You'd get far in debate class. (No you wouldn't)

Is Pac-Man just any third party? No. He's a gaming icon. Sakurai never stated that Namco characters wouldn't get in the game. Just that they got no special treatment. They still have to jump through all the hoops. What this statement really says is that you have to be an icon to be in. Snake, Sonic, Megaman, and Pac-Man all fit that criteria.



Knowing him, he just took that as a compliment.

Or a laugh because he thinks we're morons.

Either way. I hope he learns his lesson soon.
Cheers Swampasaur. I don't think I ever debate this hard. In fact my posts tend to just be like 1 sentence. Which usually turns out to be PIZZA! Thanks for making the points I missed.
 

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Pac-Man is one of the most iconic video game characters that's graced the industry, and his history on Nintendo consoles has ran since 1984 and Pac-Man games are still on Nintendo consoles today. That's coming up on 30 years when this game comes out in 2014. For reference, Sonic first appeared on a Nintendo console back in 2001 with Sonic Adventure Battle 2 (Gamecube) and Sonic Advance (GBA). That's only 13 years by Smash Wii U's anticipate release date.

Yeah, Sakurai isn't giving Namco Bandai any special treatment for developing this game, but that doesn't mean he can't use their character. If he feels like Pac-Man will make a unique addition to the game, then he'll add him. Pac-Man has that history that Snake, Mega Man and Sonic have, and he meets all the criteria that Sakurai has when it comes to character inclusion. So really, the only thing standing in Pac-Man's way from getting in this game is if Sakurai doesn't want to include Pac-Man.

I'm indifferent to Pac-Man's inclusion, but making assumptions that he is in the game will only lead to a massive amount of butthurt if he is revealed (and a lot of neener-neeners from most of this thread's posters :p).
 

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Sakurai said you had to originate from a video game and had to have been on a Nintendo system to be in, so more or less he did say no to them. I don't think the 2nd most iconic video game character who is still having crossovers with the most iconic video game character is just any character. I knew from the beginning Namco wouldn't revive special treatment but because of the things I just mentioned and that Namco helping makes it a lot easier to get the rights to use him, I found him to be a likely choice. I do think what he said makes his chances less likely, but they're nowhere near impossible. Sorry if I'm being so rude to you, but I'm just an imature, idiotic troll that doesn't know anything about anything.
 

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Pac-Man is one of the most iconic video game characters that's graced the industry, and his history on Nintendo consoles has ran since 1984 and Pac-Man games are still on Nintendo consoles today. That's coming up on 30 years when this game comes out in 2014. For reference, Sonic first appeared on a Nintendo console back in 2001 with Sonic Adventure Battle 2 (Gamecube) and Sonic Advance (GBA). That's only 13 years by Smash Wii U's anticipate release date.

Yeah, Sakurai isn't giving Namco Bandai any special treatment for developing this game, but that doesn't mean he can't use their character. If he feels like Pac-Man will make a unique addition to the game, then he'll add him. Pac-Man has that history that Snake, Mega Man and Sonic have, and he meets all the criteria that Sakurai has when it comes to character inclusion. So really, the only thing standing in Pac-Man's way from getting in this game is if Sakurai doesn't want to include Pac-Man.

I'm indifferent to Pac-Man's inclusion, but making assumptions that he is in the game will only lead to a massive amount of butthurt if he is revealed (and a lot of neener-neeners from most of this thread's posters :p).
Pac-Man would probably be received the same way as Wii Fit Trainer. Disliked at first by some and then they see how he plays and are either neutral or like him.
 

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You are no longer worth arguing. Insults are the only thing you deserve.
Earlier: Who's next in line to defend this with an insult rather than actual info.

I guess it's Noler. I told you, there wasn't a single person who had anything to back up their side.
Do I need to say anything else to claim victory of the Pac-Man Subject. Let's see

Facts *Check*
Source *check*
Quotes from Masahiro Sakurai *Check*
People with proof that this stuff is invalid *no check*

Yep, no info, just insults. I guess I am no longer worth arguing if there is nothing to prove my side wrong. Also if you don't like people giving evidence why your characters are unlikely maybe you should leave, because it's gonna happen a lot.
 

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Earlier: Who's next in line to defend this with an insult rather than actual info.

I guess it's Noler. I told you, there wasn't a single person who had anything to back up their side.
Do I need to say anything else to claim victory of the Pac-Man Subject. Let's see

Facts *Check*
Source *check*
Quotes from Masahiro Sakurai *Check*
People with proof that this stuff is invalid *no check*

Yep, no info, just insults. I guess I am no longer worth arguing if there is nothing to prove my side wrong. Also if you don't like people giving evidence why your characters are unlikely maybe you should leave, because it's gonna happen a lot.
A little confused; what are you trying to prove again? That Pac-Man is unlikely to be in the game, or that it's flat out impossible for him to be in the game?
 

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Earlier: Who's next in line to defend this with an insult rather than actual info.

I guess it's Noler. I told you, there wasn't a single person who had anything to back up their side.
Do I need to say anything else to claim victory of the Pac-Man Subject. Let's see

Facts *Check*
Source *check*
Quotes from Masahiro Sakurai *Check*
People with proof that this stuff is invalid *no check*

Yep, no info, just insults. I guess I am no longer worth arguing if there is nothing to prove my side wrong. Also if you don't like people giving evidence why your characters are unlikely maybe you should leave, because it's gonna happen a lot.
Dude really, almost all of us responded to you with actual proof, and most of us did it without insulting you.
 

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Earlier: Who's next in line to defend this with an insult rather than actual info.

I guess it's Noler. I told you, there wasn't a single person who had anything to back up their side.
Do I need to say anything else to claim victory of the Pac-Man Subject. Let's see

Facts *Check*
Source *check*
Quotes from Masahiro Sakurai *Check*
People with proof that this stuff is invalid *no check*

Yep, no info, just insults. I guess I am no longer worth arguing if there is nothing to prove my side wrong. Also if you don't like people giving evidence why your characters are unlikely maybe you should leave, because it's gonna happen a lot.
Have you read this thread? Sure there are plenty of insults but the reason we are insulting you is because THERE IS JUST AS MUCH ****ING ARGUMENTS THAT YOU AREN'T READING THAT MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A ****ING IDIOT. READ THE ****ING THREAD. Personally I am not part of this argument whatsoever, I just put you off my ignore list because I WANT TO HAMMER IT INTO YOUR ****ING SKULL HOW MUCH OF A ****TARD YOU ARE.

You want evidence here's your ****ing evidence. What sakurai said is that no namco character will get special treatment. This includes pacman. BUT pacman is enough of an icon to get into the game anyway. Too bad I just repeated what EVERYONE IS ****ING SAYING EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT YOU ARE TOO DULL TO READ THE COUNTER ARGUMENTS.

So there you have it. ****ING EVIDENCE. AND IF YOU ****ING DARE SAY THAT NO ONE HAS EVIDENCE AGAIN I WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND **** ON YOUR 11 YEAR OLD FACE.


Any way why are some people being nice to this ******? We are insulting him because he GODDAMN DESERVES IT.
 

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Ill be honest, I think the whole reason sakurai said namco isnt getting special treatment is because well.. they are getting special treatment, Im 100% confident that if another 3rd party character is added it will be pacman.
 

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I'm trying to stay in a good mood. I just finished finals today and I would like to stay peaceful for at least another hour. It does appear that Noah only reads things he is asked to read and the things that have insults in them. So maybe he just doesn't read things that are nice comebacks that have solid evidence in them because his only counter argument is to say you insulted me.
 

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It's because Noah's a pathetic dumb **** who was probably dropped on his head as an infant. Seeing as he can't tell the difference from "not getting special treatment" and "not happening".

Or the fact that he thinks anyone who disagrees with him is insulting him.
 
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I keep hearing that Sakurai said there wouldn't be clones this time around, I've never found a quote with him saying that. Is it true or is it complete bogus?
 

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Guys.

While I agree that Noah's a moron, don't you think you're getting just a tad too angry?

I mean, I think he's a troll to be honest. You're giving him what he wants.


I keep hearing that Sakurai said there wouldn't be clones this time around, I've never found a quote with him saying that. Is it true or is it complete bogus?
He hasn't talked about clones at all during Smash 4 development.
 

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I've reported so many of his posts yet to no avail. We need to get rid of this child. SOMEHOW.


I keep hearing that Sakurai said there wouldn't be clones this time around, I've never found a quote with him saying that. Is it true or is it complete bogus?
I think it's bogus. He may have said things like he's focusing on quality, but never said there wouldn't be any clones.
 

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It's because Noah's a pathetic dumb **** who was probably dropped on his head as an infant. Seeing as he can't tell the difference from "not getting special treatment" and "not happening".

Or the fact that he thinks anyone who disagrees with him is insulting him.
Well, the responses he gets are usually full of insults and info, and he doesn't see the info and only focuses on the insults.

Guys.

While I agree that Noah's a moron, don't you think you're getting just a tad too angry?

I mean, I think he's a troll to be honest. You're giving him what he wants.
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ok, ok

Cool your jets guys, geez.

Breath in, breath out.

The guy isn't really doing anything banworthy, and so for that, you have to use the ignore feature of the forum, rather than posting in all caps like children and spamming up the report feature.

Guys.

While I agree that Noah's a moron, don't you think you're getting just a tad too angry?

I mean, I think he's a troll to be honest. You're giving him what he wants.
Exactly this.
I've reported so many of his posts yet to no avail. We need to get rid of this child. SOMEHOW.
You are being almost as childish. :/
 

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ok, ok

Cool your jets guys, geez.

Breath in, breath out.

The guy isn't really doing anything banworthy, and so for that, you have to use the ignore feature of the forum, rather than posting in all caps like children and spamming up the report feature.
Listen Mr. Mod. Can you at least talk to Noah?
 

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ok, ok

Cool your jets guys, geez.

Breath in, breath out.

The guy isn't really doing anything banworthy, and so for that, you have to use the ignore feature of the forum, rather than posting in all caps like children and spamming up the report feature.

Exactly this.

You are being almost as childish. :/
Sorry about that but he is really pissing me and a lot of other people off. I put him back on the ignore list and will try not to read his stuff anymore. But I agree with swamp. At least talking to him about being civil would be nice. This is normally a very civil thread until he shows up and then it just goes to chaos. I normally try to be civil but trolling as hard as he is and when he just doesnt listen even when everyone is extremely annoyed... It makes me blow up.
 

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Sorry about that but he is really pissing me and a lot of other people off. I put him back on the ignore list and will try not to read his stuff anymore. But I agree with swamp. At least talking to him about being civil would be nice. This is normally a very civil thread until he shows up and then it just goes to chaos. I normally try to be civil but trolling as hard as he is and when he just doesnt listen even when everyone is extremely annoyed... It makes me blow up.
Eh, I've sorta trained myself over the years not to lose my temper on the internet, so it's not a big deal for me.

Noah needs to focus more on the informative part of a post, rather than the insults.

It's good entertainment seeing you guys argue, though. Keep it up.
 

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Alright.

Let's try to be rational.

Let's try to be better than this.

Let's stop insulting Noah. If he says something stupid, ignore him. Only reply to him if you have to.

There everybody wins.

We got a deal gentlemen?
 

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Alright.

Let's try to be rational.

Let's try to be better than this.

Let's stop insulting Noah. If he says something stupid, ignore him. Only reply to him if you have to.

There everybody wins.

We got a deal gentlemen?
Seems legit. Although I still haven't insulted him at all. I was being very civil in our dispute. But it really is best to just ignore him guys.
 
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