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Why are we talking about DLC characters? Didn't Sakurai already clarify he has no plans to make any?
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Espio264
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Is Mr. L ever represented in any game other than Paper Mario games?
I don't think that Paper Mario characters can double as costumes for 3d Mario characters. It'd be like having Paper Mario as a costume for Mario. THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN. Paper Mario is unique enough to be his own character. The difference between PM and Mario is the same as Link and Toon Link. Although, Mario and Paper Mario SHOULD NEVER HAVE THE EXACT SAME MOVESET. Sharing a few, VERY SMALL FEW (Maybe 1, possibly 2) move, sure.
TumblrFamous
Smash Hero
People believe he will change his mind. I'm sure he could, but I feel like the game itself will be a top priority, then DLC once the game is out/extremely close to being out.
Still, I firmly believe DLC will only have things like alt. costumes, past stages, etc. Those kinds of little things.
BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
DLC should really belong to only characters that have been cut.
FlareHabanero
Banned via Warnings
DLC like that is not going to be planned, though patches are being considered.
Louie G.
Smash Legend
You're talking to one of Paper Mario's number 1 supporters here. I'm not saying they should be in paper form, more like a 3D version of the paper character. Might be interesting.
Plus, Paper Mario has so much stuff to go off of that it makes sense to give Mario characters costumes/color schemes inspired by Paper Mario.
Another Luigi costume I would like though is his Mario and Luigi attire, complete with the striped socks.
TumblrFamous
Smash Hero
I know it is a stupid question, but what exactly are game patches? I looked it up when they were announced, and it didn't really give me a good answer, so I'm still a bit hazy...
FlareHabanero
Banned via Warnings
A piece of software designed to fix problems with design or coding. Typically a patch is designed for fixing glitches, balancing, or improving performance.
BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
It means fixing the bugs or glitches of the game.
Espio264
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I think they could make Mr. L work, but any other Paper Mario crossover costume shouldn't even be considered. Put Peach in her driving outfit, give us Dry Bowser, sure, that'll all be fine.
EDIT: Though if they put in alternate costumes, this should come to us from the beginning, not as dlc. However there could be some kind of in game missions to unlock alternate costumes for specific characters. Or maybe I've just played too many Sonic games.
SuperBrawler
Smash Master
I agree to these. I would totally buy past stages and characters.
Gameplay could easily get Dee into the potential newcomer pool, and from there, it's a matter of how said gameplay stacks up to the gameplay of every other character swimming there in Sakurai's eyes.
Come to think of it, 'the Newcomer Pool' would make for superb fanart if someone could be arsed to draw it out.
On the subject of archetypes, I'm familiar with the Turtle and other archetypes mainly through ManlySpirit's thread from way back. Beyond that, how universal or well-known do you believe they are? Smash characters certainly factor into them to some degree, but whether it was a conscious decision could really go either way.
KingofPhantoms
The Spook Factor
I'd love DLC for alt. costumes and past stages. Characters? Only those that are cut before release. That's my opinion on DLC for Smash 4.
SuperBrawler
Smash Master
They should only be past stages, characters cut from Melee, and characters cut from Brawl.
I would also be fine with maybe new items or stages but not characters.
I would also be fine with maybe new items or stages but not characters.
TumblrFamous
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Unrelated note: I realized Justabill has gotten rid of the Peach/Toon Link picture as his avatar. It is now mine.
BluePikmin11
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New items would be neat actually, seems like a good idea. But I wouldn't be too sure if that would be one of Sakurai's plans.
TheLastJinjo
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Like Tumblr said that only works for Dr. Mario and maybe Dry Bowser. You still can't do Pichu or Toon Zelda.
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I was under the impression there isn't any planned DLC currently. I think that leaves the door open for DLC post-release.
TumblrFamous
Smash Hero
Pichu? Maybe a lighter coloration for Pikachu, maybe. Toon Zelda? Hell to the no. She deserves to get in as her own character.
TheLastJinjo
Banned via Warnings
CURRENTLY has no plans to make any.
I disagree with both statements.
Louie G.
Smash Legend
If by some chance Pokémon gets 6 reps (even though it more than likely will not happen) who do you think the 6th rep would be?
I actually have to say Pichu, as a last minute clone of Pikachu.
If no clones, than Meowth. I really wanna see Meowth.
I actually have to say Pichu, as a last minute clone of Pikachu.
If no clones, than Meowth. I really wanna see Meowth.
KingofPhantoms
The Spook Factor
If we're gonna get a 6th Pokemon character, I'd expect Pichu or perhaps Blaziken. Maybe Meowth. I can also see Plusle & Minun getting in, but they are made significantly less likely considering the issues regarding the Ice Climbers and Olimar on the 3DS, not to mention balance.
Also, I am now an official supporter of Count Bleck.
Also, I am now an official supporter of Count Bleck.
BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
I rather want Zoroark to happen than Meowth for the 6th Pokemon character if I had to be honest.
SuperBrawler
Smash Master
Pichu. The end.
TheLastJinjo
Banned via Warnings
Sorry, Pichu & Meowth. But, Mewtwo's newest rival and hot movie star is the most plausible choice. And as a plus he kind of crosses between Gen 5 & 6
KingofPhantoms
The Spook Factor
I almost forgot about Zoroark. I can see him happening as well.
SuperBrawler
Smash Master
Look at my avi.
TheLastJinjo
Banned via Warnings
In order of likeliness IMO
- Genesect
- Plusle & Minun
- Zoroark
- Blaziken
- Meowth
FlareHabanero
Banned via Warnings
I believe from my prospective, literally, every character falls into an gameplay archetype, more blunt for games that focus on multiple characters like fighting, racing, or RPG titles. The most basic ones are stuff like Mighty Glacier or Fragile Speedster, you know general things you can throw characters into for quick organization purposes. It's the most basic prospective anyone can understand, and it's very universal for many games.
However, the archetypes for fighting games like Beat Down, Mix-up, Grappler, and Turtle are mostly exclusive to fighting games, mainly because of the more complex mechanics at play compared to other genres out there. Because of the more complex mechanics, those types of terms are more niche and generally known exclusively to fighting game fans. However within the fighting genre, they can be made for the prospective of how a character plays. Even a fighting game like Super Smash Bros., despite bending the rules of a fighting game, still follows characteristics archetypes establish. Though of course because characters tend to have different moves and ways to use those moves, even characters that fall into a similar archetype will still have their own style. I mean going by Super Smash Bros. alone, it's pretty clear that many characters don't play exactly the same. Marth is a light footed character that uses a mix of speed and agility in order to overwhelm the opponent with quick attacks, while Bowser is a slow powerful character that relies more on baiting then chasing the opponent. Even characters that are similar, like Link and Toon Link, don't play the same and need adjustments to compliment their playstyle.
tl;dr I do believe the idea of an archetype does apply and seeing similarities between characters is not bad, but at the same time not every character that falls into an archetype will play the same.
SuperBrawler
Smash Master
So our choices are
Meowth (iconic and stuff)
Genesect (new Pokemon who is on a movie)
Zoroark (new Pokemon liked by many)
Pichu (veteran who is Pikachu clone)
Plusle and Minun (rumours and liked by many)
Blaziken (sorta promoted I guess, Liked by many)
And some other random pokemon.
Meowth (iconic and stuff)
Genesect (new Pokemon who is on a movie)
Zoroark (new Pokemon liked by many)
Pichu (veteran who is Pikachu clone)
Plusle and Minun (rumours and liked by many)
Blaziken (sorta promoted I guess, Liked by many)
And some other random pokemon.
Louie G.
Smash Legend
I'm going to have to disagree on this.In order of likeliness IMO
I don't even think Pichu can come back now that we have Plusle & Minun
- Genesect
- Plusle & Minun
- Zoroark
- Blaziken
- Meowth
Meowth has a bigger shot than Blaziken, and being part of the original 7 doesn't help as much as everyone thinks it does.
I'd put it like this.
1. Zoroark
2. Genesect
3. Meowth
4. Plusle and Minun
5. Blaziken
LoneKonWolf
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wait . . .In order of likeliness IMO
I don't even think Pichu can come back now that we have Plusle & Minun
- Genesect
- Plusle & Minun
- Zoroark
- Blaziken
- Meowth
two characters that are rumored and can't be proven to be part of brawls game data (aka the forbidden 7) are more likely than a character that seemed plausible pre Pokémon X&Y (though to some he still has a chance, just undermined by mewtwo)
. . . . . . . .okay?
TheLastJinjo
Banned via Warnings
I was thinking more along the lines of a popular gen 3 succesor to Pichu that adds another duo and represents team battles was. Although not more than Zoroark I guess.
Knight Dude
Keeping it going.
Other than Waddle/Bandanna Dee and Krystal, are there any Nintendo characters that would properly use a spear or staff? I'm guessing some characters from Fire Emblem, but I know very little of that series.
SuperBrawler
Smash Master
Pichu makes a lot of sense.
Zelda has Toon Link, and Toon Zelda is liked by many.
Mario has Luigi, and Paper Mario is very plausible. And Docter Mario in Melee.
Why not Pichu?
Zelda has Toon Link, and Toon Zelda is liked by many.
Mario has Luigi, and Paper Mario is very plausible. And Docter Mario in Melee.
Why not Pichu?
Louie G.
Smash Legend
TumblrFamous
Smash Hero
Why doesn't Toon Zelda deserve to get in?
Louie G.
Smash Legend
"I'm aware Toon Zelda's coding was found in the game and that she's a requested character, but in reality she's incredibly excessive and unnecessary. I think this is most likely why she was never finished or even had much coding to begin with. We have Toon Link to represent the toon games and the Child Link is essential unlike the child Zelda which is really take it or leave it. Now the idea of Tetra being part of it makes it serve a purpose, but it seems to draw too far away from the original Zelda which is not what Sakurai wanted with Toon Link."
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