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[Bowserlick]

Give Bowser stun resistance, add stun to his attacks, reduce percentage damage if his shell is hit, give him momentum attributes where he gains stun resistance while running.

Also important, don't give the things you give Bowser to characters who should not get them. Superarmor is introduced and Bowser gets gypped.

Do people not realize he has a shell and weighs 7 tons?

 

[---]

I actually love playing as Bowser in Melee, but I can't stand how the way he "feels" in Brawl. I'm not sure...does that make sense?

With Bowser it's the opposite for me, but I do get what you mean. Characters seem to change slightly in feel each game. Personally I love Melee Mario/Link/Samus/Ness, but hate their Brawl counterparts, likewise I love Brawl Pikachu/Fox/Mr. G&W/Kirby and hate their Melee counterparts. Honestly the only character that has remained the same for me in each game is Captain Falcon. lol

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

During class today I made this in Photoshop (pretty much out of boredom). It is of my YouTube account being a character for Smash Bros. For fun, could anyone think of a move-set?

 

[Croph]

With Bowser it's the opposite for me, but I do get what you mean. Characters seem to change slightly in feel each game. Personally I love Melee Mario/Link/Samus/Ness, but hate their Brawl counterparts, likewise I love Brawl Pikachu/Fox/Mr. G&W/Kirby and hate their Melee counterparts. Honestly the only character that has remained the same for me in each game is Captain Falcon. lol

Haha, yeah I understand. I do like Mario more in Melee as well. To me, he feels more comfortable and cozy than in Brawl, uh, if that makes any sense. But I'm pretty picky when it comes to the fighters lol. After spending some time trying to learn the ins and outs of Mewtwo, I just couldn't go on really. I'm not that fond of his playstyle and the "floaty" feel...I didn't want to force myself to go on as I was feeling frustrated when playing him. Shame, because I think he's a cool character. Maybe I should try to go back.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I just ****ed myself over so badly... Work called if I wanted to fill in for someone who went home sick. I said yes. 3 hours of sleep. I feel like shooting myself now lol

In Melee, I also prefer Mario, Link and Samus. And in Brawl, I also prefer Pikachu, Fox, G&W and Kirby. Also, I really like Brawl Ness for no real apperant reason. Everything just feels so much more smooth about the little dude. Never liked him much in 64, or Melee, yet in Brawl, I love playing as Ness. Melee Captain Falcon is still the best though.

 

[peeup]

I really hate Mewtwo/Ness/Yoshi DJC, so I like their Brawl incarnations oodles better. Except Brawl doesn't have a Mewtwo incarnation.

Smash 4 should fix this glaring issue.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Yeah, Smash 4 should have it that only Mewtwo could do it, and he'd be able to **** everyone with it.

 

[Oasis_S]

Oh but DJC opens up so many versatile optio-- BULL**** IT FEELS AWFUL.

Also I feel bad for admitting this, but when I do play Melee I often go straight to Mewtwo because I MISS HIM, but then when I play with him I just can't stand him. Could be partly Melee's fault though. So... stiff? Clunky? Unnatural? AN ABOMINATION?!

 

[Diddy Kong]

Play with handicaps and kill everybody.

 

[Oasis_S]

When I was little, I would play with Mewtwo in training mode, with 3 Pichu at 999% running away from me on Temple with the speed on high. Just chasing them around OHKOing them. I think I called it "Cat & Mouse" or something.

 

[Shorts]

I'm excited for Smash4, because the characters that are up for addition get me excited. Much more than Brawl's additions did. I think it's because (most) of these characters are all icing. The sweet sweet icing. Toad? Junior? Tingle? Dixie? Krystal? Shulk? Bandana Dee? Zoroark? Saki? Palutena? Just the thought of one or two of these characters being added gets me hyped.

I actually love playing as Bowser in Melee, but I can't stand how the way he "feels" in Brawl. I'm not sure...does that make sense?

Really? I like him in both games, but whirling castle in Brawl is much more useful IMO. It covers much more ground. I love playing as Bowser.

 

[Oasis_S]

Eh? Toad? You? Shorts?

 

[Shorts]

Eh? Toad? You? Shorts?

Okay, I'm not extremely excited over the thought of Toad, but, his moveset would be charming, I'm sure. Even if it was a Kart/NSMBWii moveset. Hell, that's what I want. Give me Spores, Ice Balls, Propeller Hat, and something like a rush and dive (which would be him tripping)

I guess the only character I would have a real problem with would be Waluigi. I just don't like him. As far as I'm concerned, if Daisy isn't playable material, neither is he. End of story. But I don't need to rant about him.

It's more fun if you like every character than to hate most, because every addition makes you excited.

 

[Metal Overlord]

@DragonSniper- Neutral B: Pulls out an M4A1 and shoots, can shoot up to a whole round before having to reload for a few seconds
Side B: Pulls out a Thumper (Grenade Launcher)
Up B: Summons a chopper to... grab the edge of it so he can make it back to the stage?
Down B: Plants a claymore on the ground

Final Smash: Summons AC-130 to wreck everyone's **** on the battlefield

 

[Arcadenik]

I really want Toad in SSB4 bad. I feel that he, along with Little Mac and Dixie Kong, might be the only characters I wanted pre-Brawl to have a realistic chance of becoming playable this time.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Okay, I'm not extremely excited over the thought of Toad, but, his moveset would be charming, I'm sure. Even if it was a Kart/NSMBWii moveset. Hell, that's what I want. Give me Spores, Ice Balls, Propeller Hat, and something like a rush and dive (which would be him tripping)

I guess the only character I would have a real problem with would be Waluigi. I just don't like him. As far as I'm concerned, if Daisy isn't playable material, neither is he. End of story. But I don't need to rant about him.

It's more fun if you like every character than to hate most, because every addition makes you excited.

Yeah, I agree. The inclusion of Toad and Waluigi to me is like having your grandmother tag along with you and friends as you go to the movies. Yeah sure you enjoy her company else where, but under these circumstances it can make things kinda awkward for you in particular.

(This analogy will be varied depending on how boss your g-ma is, just replace g-ma with someone way less boss.)

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, I agree. The inclusion of Toad and Waluigi to me is like having your grandmother tag along with you and friends as you go to the movies. Yeah sure you enjoy her company else where, but under these circumstances it can make things kinda awkward for you in particular.

(This analogy will be varied depending on how boss your g-ma is, just replace g-ma with someone way less boss.)

I have a better one it's like going one a date with a cute girl, and having your Grandpa tag along. Even if your Grandpa is boss, it's still kinda awkward.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

The only good thing they did for Bowser in Brawl was the Flying Slam. Not only it made up for the lack of a grappler, but it made Bowser 100x badass.

 

[Arcadenik]

I have a better one it's like going one a date with a cute girl, and having your Grandpa tag along. Even if your Grandpa is boss, it's still kinda awkward.

Even more awkward if your Grandpa ended up banging your girlfriend because you aren't an alpha male like he is. Which is how awesome Toad is gonna be in SSB4.

 

[Gene]

It would be great if Bowser got his fire ball this time around while still keeping his flamethrower. Holding B will allow you to use Bowser's flamethrower normally, while just pressing B he'll shoot a fire ball. The size and strength of the fire ball depends on how much you use up the flamethrower.

These two moves as well as Bowser's jab, grab release, Dtilt, fortress, Side B and his good aerials for mix ups are things that can make Bowser better as a character. Super armor for certain moves also. Then again we don't know what smash 4's physic's and gameplay are gonna be like so idk how much all of this will improve Bowser at the end.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I think I remember Project M actually trying to implement the fireballs but later on it was removed because it made Bowser broken.

 

[Arcadenik]

I would like Bowser to have fireballs. Tap B button to spit fireballs. Hold down B button to breathe fire like in Melee and Brawl.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I would like Bowser to have fireballs. Tap B button to spit fireballs. Hold down B button to breathe fire like in Melee and Brawl.

That's pretty genius, why didn't Sakurai think of that. O-o

 

[Gene]

But Bowser's down B in brawl was the Bowser Bomb. :0


I can see the fire ball being broken due to the way he's made in PM. Correct me if I'm wrong but he can cancel the bowser bomb for follow ups like a fair or side B? Imagine following up with a fire ball, it's pretty much an instant kill at higher ratios.

If you give brawl bowser a fire ball it will help with his approach and give him more to work with. He'll still get wrecked but it'll make him a bit better.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

@DragonSniper- Neutral B: Pulls out an M4A1 and shoots, can shoot up to a whole round before having to reload for a few seconds
Side B: Pulls out a Thumper (Grenade Launcher)
Up B: Summons a chopper to... grab the edge of it so he can make it back to the stage?
Down B: Plants a claymore on the ground

Final Smash: Summons AC-130 to wreck everyone's **** on the battlefield

Sounds like fun

Could be on the verge of Snake territory though

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

But Bowser's down B in brawl was the Bowser Bomb. :0


I can see the fire ball being broken due to the way he's made in PM. Correct me if I'm wrong but he can cancel the bowser bomb for follow ups like a fair or side B? Imagine following up with a fire ball, it's pretty much an instant kill at higher ratios.

If you give brawl bowser a fire ball it will help with his approach and give him more to work with. He'll still get wrecked but it'll make him a bit better.

I guess. But yeah.

 

[volbound1700]

I don't mind clones (yes I know I am about to get flamed) and here is why.

In Melee although Fox and Falco were clones, they played differently due to changes in weight as well as different blasters, etc. It doesn't take changing the whole moveset to create a new character. Minor changes can make the experience different and if you like that moveset you get two different options that have different effects.


I wouldn't mind having few new chars if we got big chars like Megaman, Pac-Man, King K. Rool, Isaac, Mewtwo, etc. The big names. I just want NO CUTS.

 

[Frostwraith]

I think it wouldn't be a bad idea. Press and release B quickly to shoot a fire ball or hold B for continuous fire.

I think that Bowser's fireballs would be bigger than Mario's, have an horizontal trajectory (like Luigi's) and have slow speed, but deal high damage and knockback.

 

[Starphoenix]

Btw, just found out that at the end of the trailer for the latest Pokémon movie there is teasing that Mewtwo is getting a new form. Went to check on Serebii, and it's true.

Also, Mewtwo is having identity issues:

"These Pokemon were not meant to exist in this world... just like me"

Fwiw.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I saw the movie's plot, i think i might be looking forward to it.

 

[FalKoopa]

Bowser should use some of his moves from Bowser's Inside Story. There are plenty of ideas to take from that game.

 

[Cobalsh]

I'm not really up to date on Project M. Are Melee characters in it? If not, are they going to be in it? I already saw the trailer.

Also Toad sucks. More detailed explanation later.

 

[Deleted member]

Btw, just found out that at the end of the trailer for the latest Pokémon movie there is teasing that Mewtwo is getting a new form. Went to check on Serebii, and it's true.

Also, Mewtwo is having identity issues:



Fwiw.

Mewtwo is getting a new form? What?
Also, this seems to be a regression of Mewtwo's progress in characterization....I thought he already learned that he belonged in the world in the first movie, then went to find where he belonged in Returns.

Oh God, don't tell me Mewtwo is going through the "I'm just a weapon of destruction and experiment gone deadly wrong" phase like Shadow did in one ending of his game....
There's already enough sterotypes of "Emohog", we don't need "Emotwo" as well....

 

[Gene]

Would anyone mind if Bowser's voice changed to his voice in the Mario games?
You know, yelling out RAAWR! whenever he attacks. And then laughing at you. HURR HURR

 

[Frostwraith]

Btw, just found out that at the end of the trailer for the latest Pokémon movie there is teasing that Mewtwo is getting a new form. Went to check on Serebii, and it's true.

Also, Mewtwo is having identity issues:



Fwiw.

Mewtwo is getting a new form? Interesting... *expects movesets for Mewtwo involving switching between forms*

A clone having identity issues... where have I seen that before?

 

[Starphoenix]

Mewtwo is getting a new form? What?
Also, this seems to be a regression of Mewtwo's progress in characterization....I thought he already learned that he belonged in the world in the first movie, then went to find where he belonged in Returns.

Oh God, don't tell me Mewtwo is going through the "I'm just a weapon of destruction and experiment gone deadly wrong" phase like Shadow did in one ending of his game....
There's already enough sterotypes of "Emohog", we don't need "Emotwo" as well....

Yes, he's getting a new form. Some people are saying it could a return of his armor, it could be his "shiny" abilities ala Genesect, or something new altogether. Not sure which it will be.

As far as Mewtwo's characterization. The only thing I can think of that makes sense in the movie is seeing men, once again, tampering with Pokémon to create weapons probably sets back the progress he's made trusting humans.

 

[JOE!]

Some of the stuff in this thread hurts me brain...

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

What's this about Mewtwo? Are they gonna like ruin his trust on humans again?

 

[Oasis_S]

Perhaps "Awakened Mewtwo" will gain blue hair and a sword.

Also I just noticed I said "gains" in place of "games" in that really super cool post I made earlier.

 

[---]

Btw, just found out that at the end of the trailer for the latest Pokémon movie there is teasing that Mewtwo is getting a new form. Went to check on Serebii, and it's true.

Spoon form duh.

As far as Mewtwo's characterization. The only thing I can think of that makes sense in the movie is seeing men, once again, tampering with Pokémon to create weapons probably sets back the progress he's made trusting humans.

Yet again sounds kinda similar to the manga, just with Genesect instead of Deoxys. Either way, hype all around.