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Oh, you did NOT just pull the "if it's popular the it MUST be good" argument, that's the biggest strawman out there... There are plenty of popular things that are SHEER garbage.
But Sakurai isn't Kojima, and while he listens to fans he is autonomous enough at his position of director to give fans what they don't know they want. To be honest, I don't even believe this is much of an issue.
I'm more then able to recognize an opinion when I see one, everyone is entitled to have one. What I'm trying to emphasize is that very point.
Yes, which is why I'm trying my best to avoid taking this thread into that miserable hole. Personally, I'm neutral on Melee Vs. Brawl as they all had their good and bad. I'm confident whatever comes next in the series will be the best of both worlds.
Yes, because it worked wonders for Bowser and Zelda.
I'd be a little careful saying that...
People still buy Madden because they have fun with it. Does a videogame have to do more than entertain? Besides, it's not like you're forced to play it. To each his own.
Exactly!
But in all seriousness, he's popular because he makes people laugh whether through memes or his own antics. Making people laugh is not a bad thing.
Sakurai isn't Kojima, but they are best friends. Regardless, all 'Artists' are eventually submitted to the pressure of the industry. If you don't agree, you need to read more Manga, Bleach and Tite Kubo are the best example of this scenario. Also, Sakurai isn't a prophet, he doesn't give fans what they don't know they want, he does what he likes, and people happen to catch the same inspiration as him, this works BECAUSE he puts gameplay above characterization. Which is why I repeat, gameplay is the first and foremost, and should NOT be ignored by the fanbase.
I'm afraid I don't share the same sentiment. To avoid future disappointment I try to keep my expectations low.
Did I ever say that popularity=good?
Pffft, I just want Link to be good for once.I secretly want Mewtwo being MetaKnight broken in Smash 4.
Ultimately, movement needs to be fluid, even if there is a some learning curve to it like the Korean backdashes in Tekken and it needs to make sense. I think wavedashing should return in the form of a backdash. I'm wondering if dodge rolls and spot dodges should return.
Because they make people happy. Jershey Shore got popular because people laughed at the stupidity of the cast for instance. It's bad, but popular for a good reason.
Which won't happen due to the reluctance to change. Even then, change can still brake a character just as easily as fixing them.
Popular thing are popular because they are marketed well into our modern consumerist society. Making things to sell is precisely what's created our ****ty world and all of its problems. Now lets not get off topic with that, but if you're interested I recommend you check out the RSA Animates on youtube.
Actually I already said how ****ty games doing well indirectly ruins the experience for others by ****ting up the industry, but yes, if you go by the "videogames are an art form" mentality then yes, they ARE meant to do MUCH more than entertain. The same way books are meant to do much more than entertain. Looking at videogames, they can educate, inspire, enlighten, challenge, immerse and much much more.
I don't see how I'm abandoning any logic here. I don't see any proof that Mewtwo will tap his potential as a character. On the other points, I've given examples and used outside references, if people want them cited all they need to do is ask.I'd be a little careful saying that...
Anyway, Manly and Habanero not liking Mewtwo to return is making them abandon logic in favor of pure bias. Not a good idea when arguing.
*break*
Humans can make mistakes, you know.
I secretly want Mewtwo being MetaKnight broken in Smash 4.
This is just going around and around, and I'm even not so sure we aren't coming from the same place. The point I'll leave it at is this: while gameplay is important, so are the characters. They are two sides of the same coin -- they do not have to be mutually exclusive. Mewtwo is a character a lot of people like and happen to want back. Just because he did not perform well in Melee does not mean he won't be improved in the next game. People forget how dramatically Capt. Falcon changed between Smash 64 and Melee, so it isn't like there is no precedent for it happening. Whether that will happen or not is up to Sakurai and whomever else is involved in that process. Let's just not get ahead of ourselves when we have no idea how any of the characters will transition into the next game.
You'll be just like the rest of us. Drooling during E3's reveal trailer.
Whoa, I'm not talking about canon tiers here. I'm talking about a playstyle that does Mewtwo justice. As a matter of fact, neither Samus, Ness, nor Ganondorf have playstyles that do them justice. Samus should be very much a complicated toolbox character, but she's a pale imitation of her Metroid self.
This, so MUCH this. And other people's unwillingness to realize this and rather embrace of it frustrates me to no end.
Ness should first off get improved recovery options before going nuts with the options. PK Thunder sucks for recovering so badly, that alone makes Ness hard to use in a competitive sense. It's not the only problem Ness has, but it would be a step up in the right direction.
Fine, PK Teleport.
This is exactly my point. I'd be just satisfied with 3-5 new characters and a completely reworked roster as opposed to what most others are so obsessed about, 10-15 new characters and the same ol **** with some tweaks.
We have no idea... We have some clues, it's not too hard to extrapolate. We can hope, but still keep our expectations low. Like I said, I'm not too excited for Mewtwo, there are much better candidates to get in over him, especially since he's treaded ground. Like Roy, I couldn't care less about either.
But it's funny, many people here go for the quantity over quality idea. We've had people here openly say how they would rather have clones rather than not if it means more characters.
I know I've said this many times, but people are morons. I mean, people are too attached to the icon to realize what they are thinking.