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We might as well ask what IS the average gamer. Chances are the average gamer is closer to the COD-Halo crowd who have probably not heard of 90% of the Smash Bros. cast.
Does the Tingle series really need a rep? There are other smaller series that could get reps, like Fossil Fighters or the Rolling Western (if it qualifies as a series, as The Last Ranger is only speculated). And neither of those has a hatedom.I agree Tingle isn't important in the Zelda series. That's why we suggest Tingle gets his own icon, maybe a rupee, to emphasize that Tingle is representing his own series since he is, after all, important there.
Actually the average gamer is the COD-Halo crowd who have probably not heard of 90% of the Smash Bros. cast and don't even bother to give a crap since they think Nintendo is casual baby garbage, with the irony of them not even being past puberty.
Agreed, also the argument that KOS-MOS is a generic anime girl is pretty lame.
Don't even ****ing remind me of this. Trying to explain stuff like this should not be that hard for anyone with a brain, but it is. I mean, it should not be that hard to figure out that Pit is not "Kid Icarus" (That misconception is even referenced in Kid Icarus: Uprising), Marth and Ike are not brothers, Sonic and Snake are not Nintendo characters, explaining stuff like Captain Falcon and R.O.B., and whatever else pops up.
"Marth's a guy? I thought she was Roy's girlfriend?"
To be fair, most casual gamers would have no idea who Marth or Lucas are. They were Japanese exclusive for quite some time.
I think this all really depends on the age gaps. You refer to people who grew up on the 16-bit era. Most of them would probably know most of the characters that debuted before roughly 2000. In fact, out of the three sample groups you posted, the only one to debut after 2000 was Olimar. There were no mentions of the MOTHER or Fire Emblem characters along with Lucario in particular."Marth's a guy? I thought she was Roy's girlfriend?"
Link, Pikachu, the original starters for Pokemon, and Sonic are all recognizable to casual players and they are definitely not niche nor have any connection to Mario outside of Smash Bros. (except recently Sonic). There are many who are able to recognize Kirby, Samus, and Fox as well.
Super Castlevania 4? That game is awesome. Just use the whip in limp and rotate the pad, it works as a good shield. Also, make sure you search walls for meat and stuff.
True, Mario originated as Jumpman in Donkey Kong, but Mario now has his own series. Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong are a part of their own series, but you cannot deny that they are partially a part of the Mario series also, considering they appear in basically any spin off.
Thus, that was the day the fangirls found out that Marth was a guy and decided to make yaoi pictures with Roy. Meanwhile, Caeda and Marth looked up that stuff by accident and got freaked out by it.
This is precisely why I get bothered by people when they refuse to listen.Swampasaur said:
His name is Jumpman, not Mario. Do some research, cause they aren't the same guy and never were. Jumpman =/= Mario. The only thing that's true is that he inspired Mario, but that's it. And even if you think Jumpman is really Mario(kind of hard to believe when only Mario fights the current DK, the grandson of Cranky Kong, who was the original DK), then he must be really really old right now. In addition, that would mean Mario was a Donkey Kong character from the start. That's a little too hard to swallow for me.
Sure I can. They aren't Mario characters, just guests. They're not a real part of the series. Guests are not the same thing.Scolosis Jones said:
No difference to me. They're both Guest appearances from other series. Playable has no meaning when it comes to Guests.
Wow, you didn't even read, did you? Of course they're not the same one. DK Jr. is the modern DK. But he's a Donkey Kong character and a Guest(just like Link/Samus were in SMRPG) in the Mario series. He doesn't count as a real Mario character. The originated argument only works for Wario/Yoshi for your case, but fails for Kamek too.
Like yours? It was a very bad one since you misrepresented what I said pretty badly.
Only if you don't understand how Guest appearances work. A guest is a character that did not originate in the series but appears none the less. Tingle would not be a guest character. He did originate from Zelda, but he fully reps his own series instead of Zelda alone now. His lack of appearances in the Zelda series does say a lot. FYI, his games aren't Zelda games either. They are Tingle games with the only thing in common being the original character(barely, since he's not similar to his Zelda-series appearances) and Rupees. Spin-offs are their own full series too.(technically, the Mario series is a spin-off of the DK series, but they did evolve to become their own series after a while)
Super Castlevania IV is probably the easiest of the "action Castlevanias". Personally, its my favorite of the classic Castlevania series. The only other classic Castlevania I really like is Rondo of Blood.
See my previous post.
I still find that crap hard to swallow, because that makes Mario a Donkey Kong character automatically.(not the other way around) However, it is true, so that means Mario is a DK character officially. Kind of sucks for people not knowing that DK isn't a Mario a character and still saying that blatantly false crap, though.
Diddy Kong has made regular appearances in the Mario spinoffs since Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour. However, aside from Diddy Kong, other DK characters appearing in the Mario spinoffs is really uncommon (pretty much the last Mario spinoff to have DK characters aside from DK and Diddy was Mario Super Sluggers, which was released back in 2008).
I don't think that debuting in Donkey Kong means Mario isn't a DK character. Mario is the face of Nintendo, and Mario has become its own series, so I don't think its fair to say that Mario is a DK character.
Except he still originated as a Donkey Kong character. That's the problem if people think the originating argument is worth anything.
Then Wario and Yoshi are not Mario characters. Sorry, but I won't believe they are unless Mario is a DK character. All or nothing.
Because we need to talk about every mundane thing possible and blow it up to unnecessarily high proportions for the sake of argument.
