Roster Discussion Thread (Closed)

[yani]

What the hell guys, I can't believe you still speak about that DKR-rumor seriously. After I saw the roster I instantly called quits and knew this was a fake.

The roster was from a different person who was trolling. There's still a shot that Monster Games could be working on it.

 

[ChronoBound]

Does this then apply to most of 3rd parties? Though Sonic got in just because of sheer popularity and demand he had worldwide. I guess that means then Megaman and Pac-Man would be the last 3rd parties to be allowed in Smash by this regard because both are either very popular or relevant to the videogame history

Mega Man is the only popularly requested third-party character this time, and his popularity is not on the same level as Sonic's was.

The second most-wanted third-party character is Pac-Man, but there is a lot of hate to the idea of including him. A Tales character in general (though there is a lot of division on who it should be) has close to as much demand as Pac-Man for a Namco character:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-wii-u/65303534?results=1#1

If Namco were not developing this, there would not be anyone asking for a Namco character. As it stands the only third-party newcomer people can agree on is Mega Man.

 

[Gamingboy]

People who are against Pac-Man have no sense of history.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Well you cannot simply base everything on gameFAQs considering their views are skewed to begin with. In particular, there is a noticeable differentiation between here and there. Like there seems to be more people enthusiastic over Pac-man then Lloyd, even if both seem kind of forced.

 

[ChronoBound]

Well you cannot simply base everything on gameFAQs considering their views are skewed to begin with. In particular, there is a noticeable differentiation between here and there.

The idea of a Namco character is even less popular here. On the official poll here, even Bomberman has more votes than Pac-Man and Tales character support here is neglible, so I don't know what you are getting at.

GameFAQs though is waifu-land pretty much.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I meant in the context of choices, not popularity. There is very few people here that would like (or care about) characters from Tales, while Pac-man is more agreed on, though still slightly polarizing by a few out there.

Of course nothing can compare to Mega Man at this point, which is fueled by the infamous Capcom comment.

 

[ChronoBound]

Jack Bros is a great game by VB standards. It's also a game that needs to be revived.

Virtual Boy had quite a few decent games for a failed console.

Virtual Boy Wario Land is, in my opinion, the pinnacle of the Wario Land series. Easily the best game on the Virtual Boy by far.

Galactic Pinball is the best video game pinball game I have ever played (it even has a Galaga-like Metroid mini-game).

Mario Clash is addictive arcade fun, and was a nice follow-up to the original arcade Mario Bros.

Mario's Tennis was a solid start to the Mario Tennis series.

 

[N3ON]

Teleroboxer was also pretty fun, for what it was. Shame it never got followed up, I liked Harry (the main robot). As unlikely as it'd be, I hope one day we at least get a trophy of him.

 

[ChronoBound]

Teleroboxer was also pretty fun, for what it was. Shame it never got followed up, I liked Harry (the main robot). As unlikely as it'd be, I hope one day we at least get a trophy of him.

I do not have that game unfortunately. It reminded me of a first-person Punch-Out with robots, though I skipped out on it for some reason I can't remember. I have no interest in buying any more Virtual Boy games (I only have six), so I will probably never get it. I can't believe someone aside from me had a Virtual Boy.

So did your eyes fall out too?

 

[Opossum]

Speaking of Virtual Boy, I feel that it should get some form of representation in Smash, other than a mention in the chronicle. Maybe a Teleroboxer Assist Trophy or a Virtual Boy stage would be cool.

Spoiler

Stay away from the red and black spots in the stage's background, or your character will get the Dizzy effect, as if their shield was broken

On a different note, I may adjust my roster again soon by adding on Shulk, bringing it to 51 characters...which I feel is a bad number. I hate odd numbers...

I feel he's been long overdue to be put on my roster, what with the change of heart I've had regarding his chances (with the new game and all...).

 

[N3ON]

I do not have that game unfortunately. It reminded me of a first-person Punch-Out with robots, though I skipped out on it for some reason I can't remember. I have no interest in buying any more Virtual Boy games (I only have six), so I will probably never get it. I can't believe someone aside from me had a Virtual Boy.

So did your eyes fall out too?

Haha yeah, though I got mine several years after it'd already been out. I wouldn't have been old enough to use it properly anyway when it was new.

As it was used, the one I got came with four games (Mario Tennis, Mario Clash, Wario Land, and Teleroboxer). Wario Land is obviously the best, but Teleroboxer was IMO the second best, though it was similar to Punch-Out. The games (at least the ones I own) admittedly are solid, but the limitations of the system kinda ruined some of the fun for me. Personally I found it (like most) very uncomfortable on both my eyes and in the position I naturally played it in.

If I see more VB games ever for pretty cheap I might pick them up, even if I don't plan on playing them, just for collection purposes. Though I am interested in playing Jack Bros.

@Opossum
A Teleroboxer AT would be awesome, but I could see Nintendo telling Sakurai not to put any focus on any VB content, they know it's best left forgotten.

 

[ChronoBound]

If I see more VB games ever for pretty cheap I might pick them up, even if I don't plan on playing them, just for collection purposes. Though I am interested in playing Jack Bros.

Jack Bros. is supposedly one of the rarest VB games so good luck.

I got the Virtual Boy later on as well (I think back in 2003 or 2002).

My second favorite game for the console was Galactic Pinball. It was just really addictive. Definitely pick up that game if you are only plan to ever get one more VB game.

Its weird, when I first got the console it did not feel uncomfortable to use, nor did it strain my eyes, but years later when I play it, its uncomfortable and it strains my eyes if I play for a bit. Though even the 3DS's 3D effect strains my eyes so I usually always have it turned off.

Hey, since we are talking about floppy Nintendo consoles, how about that e-reader?

 

[8-peacock-8]

Jack bros would be wonderful on the 3DS in all honesty.

I still have my e-reader.

 

[---]

If Namco were not developing this, there would not be anyone asking for a Namco character. As it stands the only third-party newcomer people can agree on is Mega Man.

This is true. Same could be said for SMT and Bayonetta, not Ryu Hayabusa, however, for whatever reason...

Hey, since we are talking about floppy Nintendo consoles, how about that e-reader?

I still have mine and a bunch of cards for it (Pinball, Mario Bros, DK Jr.). Just used it the other month in order to get the Eon Ticket for my Emerald version.

 

[Arcadenik]

I still have my e-Reader... but I lost (or misplaced) my cards. I had cards for Super Mario Bros. 3, Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire, Donkey Kong Jr., Urban Champion, Clu Clu Land, and Game & Watch: Manhole.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Hey, since we are talking about floppy Nintendo consoles, how about that e-reader?

I have one, but the only cards I have are the DK Jr. cards, an Animal Crossing card(I think), and a few SMB3 cards.

 

[N3ON]

Jack Bros. is supposedly one of the rarest VB games so good luck.

I got the Virtual Boy later on as well (I think back in 2003 or 2002).

My second favorite game for the console was Galactic Pinball. It was just really addictive. Definitely pick up that game if you are only plan to ever get one more VB game.

Its weird, when I first got the console it did not feel uncomfortable to use, nor did it strain my eyes, but years later when I play it, its uncomfortable and it strains my eyes if I play for a bit. Though even the 3DS's 3D effect strains my eyes so I usually always have it turned off.

Hey, since we are talking about floppy Nintendo consoles, how about that e-reader?

Yeah, I don't really want to shell out too much for a game I only plan on playing one or two times, so chances are I'll never find it. Oh well.

If I see Galactic Pinball anywhere (which I probably won't, but every once and a while a VB game shows up at my local game store, so who knows) I'll probably pick it up. Of course, I'm not actually sure where my VB is right now, so I'll have to dig that up too then.

And yeah, when I was playing a game, it didn't hurt my eyes, but after I stopped I noticed that they were kinda sore, so eventually I just gave up on the VB. I never beat any of the games.

I actually never owned the e-reader, though I wanted one for a bit. Probably because of Pokemon. I did own other add-ons though, like the Super Game Boy, the Game Boy Player, and the Famicom Disk System. To their credit though, they are a lot more useful than the e-reader.

Next on my list is the 64DD, because apparently I feel like spending an exorbitant amount on something fairly useless.
(Chances are I'll never get that one either)

Jack bros would be wonderful on the 3DS in all honesty.

I still have my e-reader.

Yeah, a Jack Bros remake would be pretty cool, and it'd save me the trouble of finding a copy and just dealing with the dumb ol' Virtual Boy again.

 

[FlareHabanero]

E-reader was a pain in the ***. That thing couldn't scan a card if it's life depended on it

 

[Robert of Normandy]

E-reader was a pain in the ***. That thing couldn't scan a card if it's life depended on it

I never had that many problems with it.

 

[TheCreator]

Pacman.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Pacman.

What about him? Or are we just posting nouns now?

 

[8-peacock-8]

Yep

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Yep

Alright then.

 

[Croph]

Paperclip.

No seriously, Clippy the paperclip 4 Smash.

 

[8-peacock-8]

We need an Xbox All-Stars so Clippy can kill everyone with a blue screen combined with a red ring of death.

 

[Opossum]

Better Microsoft rep than Banjo Kazooie

 

[Robert of Normandy]

We need an Xbox All-Stars so Clippy can kill everyone with a blue screen combined with a red ring of death.

MS All-Stars would actually be pretty cool, especially if they got a lot of the characters from old DOS games.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Jazz Jackrabbit?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Jazz Jackrabbit?

Yup. I was also thinking Commander Keen.

Edit: I feel like this is getting off topic.

 

[ChronoBound]

Jack bros would be wonderful on the 3DS in all honesty.

I still have my e-reader.

I still have mine and a bunch of cards for it (Pinball, Mario Bros, DK Jr.). Just used it the other month in order to get the Eon Ticket for my Emerald version.

I still have my e-Reader... but I lost (or misplaced) my cards. I had cards for Super Mario Bros. 3, Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire, Donkey Kong Jr., Urban Champion, Clu Clu Land, and Game & Watch: Manhole.

I have one, but the only cards I have are the DK Jr. cards, an Animal Crossing card(I think), and a few SMB3 cards.

E-reader was a pain in the ***. That thing couldn't scan a card if it's life depended on it

Wow, a lot of people in this thread actually owned the e-reader. The e-reader was at least cheap (I think it was only $40 or $50) for a peripheral console. Its library pretty much consisted on early NES-game ports and add-on cards to GCN and GBA games (most notably Animal Crossing and Super Mario Advance 4).

I pretty much have the few original games ever made for it (Mario Party-e, Air Hockey, and the Kirby Slide Puzzle thing). There were also several Pokemon mini-games made for it (the console game with the cards for a Machop mini-game, and I got the cards for some Rapidash mini-game in Nintendo Power). There was also a port of the Game & Watch game, Manhole, which was packed-in with the e-reader.

Of the early NES-ports, I got Donkey Kong Jr., Excite Bike, Balloon Fight, Ice Climber, Donkey Kong 3, and Clu Clu Land. I thought $5 for a NES game was a good deal at the time.... until I learned about Animal Crossing (which had the entire e-reader NES library, and you could actually make those games portable if you have the GBA-GCN link cable).

I learned about Animal Crossing having all of those games on the e-reader board on GameFAQs back in 2003, and I felt like I wasted my money on those NES games for nothing. I picked up Animal Crossing simply due to the amount of NES games it had packed in. I ended up really liking the game though aside from NES stuff though (however, though I got Wild World, I barely played it, and pretty much went back to the original, and have no intention of ever buying a future AC game).

I will credit the e-reader for introducing me to some early NES gems like Donkey Kong Jr., Balloon Fight (especially Balloon Fight), and Excite Bike. I remember being particularly excited for Ice Climber since I would finally get to play the game the Ice Climbers in Melee were from. I assumed that the people who made Melee must have selected the Ice Climbers over other retro guys because they had such a great game, boy was I wrong. Ice Climber ended up being pretty sub-par.

I enjoyed Air Hockey a lot (it was free too). Come to think of it, aside from Mario Party-e and all of the NES games (with the exception of Donkey Kong Jr.), my entire e-reader library was either packed with the system or was free through special offers (like Air Hockey was given away for free at game stores, and Rapidash mini-game and Kirby Slide Puzzle were free in Nintendo Power).

It was a quirky little peripheral. However, it didn't have any memorable original software (probably the best title for that platform ignoring the NES-ports was Mario Party-e). Though like I said earlier, I will credit it for introducing me to Animal Crossing.

And yeah, when I was playing a game, it didn't hurt my eyes, but after I stopped I noticed that they were kinda sore, so eventually I just gave up on the VB. I never beat any of the games.

I actually never owned the e-reader, though I wanted one for a bit. Probably because of Pokemon. I did own other add-ons though, like the Super Game Boy, the Game Boy Player, and the Famicom Disk System. To their credit though, they are a lot more useful than the e-reader. y:

I pretty much played Virtual Boy Wario Land, Galactic Pinball, Mario Clash, and Mario's Tennis extensively (I also have Red Alarm and Panic Bomber, which I enjoyed a lot less than the previously four mentioned titles). The only two Virtual Boy games I ever come back to are Wario Land and Galactic Pinball. Wario Land in particular I have beaten at least five times, and I have discovered new things and well hidden secrets on future playthoughs.

I have the Super Game Boy and Game Boy Player too.

However, I don't have a Famicom Disk System (or any Japanese Nintendo console for that matter).

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I pretty much played Virtual Boy Wario Land, Galactic Pinball, Mario Clash, and Mario's Tennis extensively (I also have Red Alarm and Panic Bomber, which I enjoyed a lot less than the previously four mentioned titles). The only two Virtual Boy games I ever come back to are Wario Land and Galactic Pinball. Wario Land in particular I have beaten at least five times, and I have discovered new things and well hidden secrets on future playthoughs.

How are your eyes?

 

[Deleted member]

I too have an e-Reader.

....Don't really have much cards for it that aren't Pokemon TCG cards.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I too have an e-Reader.

....Don't really have much cards for it that aren't Pokemon TCG cards.

I only managed to get one full set of Pokemon cards outside of the one that came in my card pack.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Yup. I was also thinking Commander Keen.

Edit: I feel like this is getting off topic.

Commander Keen and Duke Nukem can be rivals.

BACK TO THE E-READER!!!

 

[ChronoBound]

How are your eyes?

Fine... if your definition of fine is being only able to see things in shades of red and black.

However, as I said earlier, back in the day (2003-2005), I was not bothered by the Virtual Boy, both through the vision thing and the whole stand thing. Nowadays, its a lot more uncomfortable playing the Virtual Boy.

I personally would like it if Nintendo released a compilation of their Virtual Boy software for the 3DS (or at least released their Virtual Boy software for the 3DS Virtual Console), but I doubt that would ever happen. Virtual Boy Wario Land is a real gem. Its to the Virtual Boy as Sonic CD is to the Sega CD, or Castlevania Rondo of Blood is to the Turbo CD/PC-Engine CD.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I personally would like it if Nintendo released a compilation of their Virtual Boy software for the 3DS (or at least released their Virtual Boy software for the 3DS Virtual Console), but I doubt that would ever happen. Virtual Boy Wario Land is a real gem. Its to the Virtual Boy as Sonic CD is to the Sega CD, or Castlevania Rondo of Blood is to the Turbo CD/PC-Engine CD.

Except those systems had more than 14 games.

Also, the CD add-ons have more good games than people give them credit for. The Ys games on TGCD are considered the definitive versions by many, and Lords of Thunder is AMAZAAAAAAAAAAA.

Can't speak for the SegaCD though.

 

[ChronoBound]

Except those systems had more than 14 games. .

I meant in the sense that they are all outstanding games for popular series that very people ever got to play due to being on failed game consoles.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I meant in the sense that they are all outstanding games for popular series that very people ever got to play due to being on failed game consoles.

Makes more sense, though unlike the VB's case, there have actuall been anumber of TGCD ports and a fef SegaCD ports as well.

I think that in order to be able to rerelease VB games, they'd have to go for full-on remakes rather than the usual emulated VC way.

 

[ChronoBound]

Yeah, I played Sonic CD through Sonic Gems Collection, and Rondo of Blood through the Virtual Console. The closest thing to a non-Nintendo flop console I own is the Sega Saturn.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Got a question:

Which megaman is the most famous? Classic, .EXE, Starforce, Legends, or X?