@N3ON: Hardly. While it's true the Mario series references the platformers often, it's not without other series at all. Smash itself never took into account what was a main series or not. For instance, why is Waluigi an AT over Daisy, who's been part of the regular platformers?(albeit, one game, but she's been among them) Or even Kamek, who's an actual regular part of the Yoshi series? Sakurai does not care what's "main series" or not and never has. Hell, Pikachu's first Smash appearance is more based upon the Anime than the games. Thunder Jolt? The name originated from the TCG as a mistranslation. The actual move only appears once in the Anime episode, "The Problem with Paras", and that episode came out in Japanese a long time before Smash.(forget the exact months, but even close to a year) Also, Pikachu could not learn Headbutt in the games regularly, but has it in Smash. Pikachu did attack like that in the anime, same with kicks.
So really, what you're saying is not exactly true; Sakurai takes from any source he finds usable.
I never said the Mario content was devoid of representation from the non-platformer series, just that the platformer series content made up the majority of it. You're right in that Smash never made a distinction between Mario sub-series (except with the music), but the fact that excluding collectible stuff such as trophies and stickers (which I should've mentioned before), the vast majority of content is from the "Super Mario" series, not Mario Party, not the RPGs, not Mario Kart (though some is from Mario Kart). Look at the Mario stages in Smash: one from the "Mario Kart" sub-series, one from the Mario arcade games, one from the "Luigi's Mansion" sub-series, and eight from the "platformer" series. 2/3 of the ATs are from the "platformer" series while the other is Waluigi. 14/23 Mario songs in Brawl are from the "platformer" series while the others are divided between other sub-series, with only three not from the platformer or Mario Kart series. Again, I'm not saying there isn't any content from the other Mario sub-series (I'm not quite sure where you inferred that from), just that in Smash, the "Super Mario" series has made up, and will almost guaranteed continue to make up, the majority of the Mario content.
So... yeah, Waluigi made it in over Daisy most likely because he is more popular and possibly because Sakurai thought either he had more to work with, or Daisy didn't have enough to work with, or because Daisy is already one of Peach's colours. As for Kamek... in Smash he'd probably be part of the Yoshi series... so those two aren't really as comparable.
Again, I never said Sakurai didn't use content from non-platforming Mario series, just that the platforming content makes up the majority.
Yeah, Sakurai takes from any source he finds merit in, I never said anything in opposition to that, but as the Mario platformers are the most prominent and by and large the most popular aspect of the series, he primarily takes from that. I never said he didn't, or couldn't, or hasn't taken from other Mario sub-series, just that that content is the comparative minority, which it is.
As for Waluigi, he's as important as Daisy, having a near equal important role among the entire list of games(and since the main series does not legitimately exist outside of the fandom), he has been more important than her by one more game.(Daisy is unimportant in Mario Party 3, just a meh boss, Waluigi actually did have some more importance, and he's the penultimate boss of DDR: Mario Mix). So his importance is still low, but 1/10 is way too low. He played as much of a villain as Kamek did, for starters.(Kammy is the Paper Mario version, not Kamek, but she's clearly a remake of him) So considering everything, a minimum of 3/10. He was atleast a major villain.
I'd agree they have around the same level of importance, though Daisy has appeared in more of the Mario series than Waluigi has (if only due to SML), and was chosen as the Double Dash character for Mario Kart 7 over Waluigi. They also both regularly appear in most spin-offs (or I guess Mario spin-offs don't exist, because there isn't a main Mario series
). In reality, neither is too important, but Waluigi does have a great deal more popularity than Daisy. And again, you've taken me out of context. I only gave Waluigi a 1/10 based solely on his role in the storyline of the collective Mario series (all of them), which I also said was a poor way to measure importance. I never said or thought that his actual importance was 1/10. I actually agreed with the score Frostwraith gave him (I think it was a 5?), I just disagreed with Frostwraith's apparent logic behind how he scored him, and said by that logic he should've been much lower.
Being a major villain in two games doesn't equate to a major villain in the entire series though.
Unrelated, for Zelda characters, Tingle is actually pretty badass. Outside of Link and one Skull Kid, he's the only one travel among dimensions, made slaves out of his own kin(and another guy), has 3 games under his belt, and stole more money from Link than any other characters. Oh, and he has more starring games where you play as him than Zelda herself.(albeit, those two games are not part of the official series, but still, he deserves a bit of credit)
Yeah, although I don't really support him and wouldn't really advocate for him either, unlike most westerners I don't hate Tingle, and would be fine with his inclusion in Smash. I think he merits it more than any other currently non-playable Zelda character.
, I forgot it came from that guy
