All right guys, this is a thread for us to discuss ROB secondaries.Remember the characters that ROB is weak against and also stages so as to discuss.
Following the Tier List v3.0 sequence, the character for us to discuss now isDiddy.
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~ Meta Knight ~
MK is probably the best secondary for every one, and ROB is included. MK does better than ROB is most of ROB's bad match-ups, such as DDD, Zamus, G&W and others. Continuing playing with ROB against ICs is a better idea though, IMO.
ROB can do better than MK in some stages, like Jungle Japes. Read Overswarm's opinion about it:
~ Snake ~
Snake is a better option than ROB at the MK Match-up, but u need to lear the Match-up well, otherwise, u'll find problems facing good MKs. He is also very nice against G&W.
Snake is a nice secondary, but u'll continue having problems against DDDs though.
In stages like Jungle Japes, ROB is continues better, but Snake can do a really good stuff in Battlefield, for example.
~ Wario ~
I'll be just copying what i've said:
~ Falco ~
Falco against MK is a nice Match-up, just try to avoid going off-stage and camp like hell. Well, Falco needs to camp in most of his Match-ups, and this is similar to ROB. Maybe this is an advantage of secondarying Falco: "Campering Experiece".
Falco is great vs DDD. CG and not being chain grabbed ftw. As Tin said, Japes is even more viable. He's better than ROB vs Zamus and G&W(even MU), too =D
TIME TO DISCUSS DIDDY
Following the Tier List v3.0 sequence, the character for us to discuss now isDiddy.
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~ Meta Knight ~
MK is probably the best secondary for every one, and ROB is included. MK does better than ROB is most of ROB's bad match-ups, such as DDD, Zamus, G&W and others. Continuing playing with ROB against ICs is a better idea though, IMO.
ROB can do better than MK in some stages, like Jungle Japes. Read Overswarm's opinion about it:
All in all, MK is the best secondary for ROB for sure. Just don't let him to be ur main as ROB is awesome <3Overswarm said:Jungle Japes:
this is a horrid MK stage in that MK dies just about as fast as normal, but now loses his most reliable kill move (up+b OoS) and on one side is now unable to dair gimp. What's worse is he can't effectively edgeguard anyway, and people have a zillion ledges to grab. ROB does better here, and I often go ROB on unsuspecting players. Works about 90% of the time.
~ Snake ~
Snake is a better option than ROB at the MK Match-up, but u need to lear the Match-up well, otherwise, u'll find problems facing good MKs. He is also very nice against G&W.
Snake is a nice secondary, but u'll continue having problems against DDDs though.
In stages like Jungle Japes, ROB is continues better, but Snake can do a really good stuff in Battlefield, for example.
~ Wario ~
I'll be just copying what i've said:
Padô, buenob and A2Z also said some good things:TheMike said:Well, Wario, like the other top characters, is a good secondary. He is nice against Falco(Dthrow buffered CG) and can do a good job against Snake. He is also better than us in the MK Match-up, but not that much. Vs Diddy and G&W he isn't too bad and might helps us at CP options, especally Vs G&W(even MU) because we have a little advantage against Diddy.
Wario solves our killing moves problems. He has awesome ones, such as Fsmash, Uair and Fart. Stages.. hmm, Wario is also good at Frigate and Jungle Japes. FD isn't good, so don't even think in picking it up as Wario. Brinstar, which isn't too god for us, isn't bad for him. He is probably an option there(obviously, not better than MK).
Padô said:Wario is always a good choice if you are trying to counter the top tiers, not saying that Wario is an MK counter but is pretty even, he is REALLY good against Snake, Falco and Marth if you know the matchup well.
FORGET about DDD this match requires SO MUCH experience and ROBs projectiles must keep this match pretty even too.
TBH I'd prefer picking Wario against heavycharacters (but DDD) since killing heavycharacters with ROB is a pain in the *** or lightcharacters like Lucario, GW which die around 70% with the fart.
buenob said:wario is like the opposite character from rob... he has amazing multi-hit moves that abuse frame advantage and multiple hitboxes (shield poking)... his zone is inside the opponent lol... wario gets low% kills where rob ends up getting the opponent to rediculous high percents or gimps...
anyways, I could definitely see that being a solid mindgame, since the opponent would have to immediately switch styles or be caught in the wrong space...
A2ZOMG said:Wario does better against Metaknight and G&W than ROB, so that's a good reason to use him. He also is hurt less by platforms in general too, which helps on various CPs.
Captain Falcon also infinites him though. =P
~ Falco ~
Falco against MK is a nice Match-up, just try to avoid going off-stage and camp like hell. Well, Falco needs to camp in most of his Match-ups, and this is similar to ROB. Maybe this is an advantage of secondarying Falco: "Campering Experiece".
Falco is great vs DDD. CG and not being chain grabbed ftw. As Tin said, Japes is even more viable. He's better than ROB vs Zamus and G&W(even MU), too =D
stringers135 said:Falco is a godly secondary...beats DDD and ZSS, and does really good against MK
TIME TO DISCUSS DIDDY