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well then lets get it to 100 then. people support for ridley needed! 100 pages of pure ridley!
He's certainly one of the most requested, even if it is non-Japan only where he is popular. Dedede snatches the crown everywhere. It's odd that Dedede is the king of popularity, as Kirby hasn't been that popular since 'Dreamland's initial release (here at least). It's one of those things I guess. Metaknight and Dedede are the two most origional villains of the GameBoy/SNES days, so all is fair in the world.
 

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Actually, Ridley appeared quite prominently in Sakurai's poll, despite it being based in Japan. I think the Japanese are fond of the older Metroid games still, they just weren't as fond of the Prime series.

And everyone loves DeDeDe, he's a hammer weilding penguin. What's not to love?
 

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Plus he's a penguin with a hammer. I hear the Japanese love that kind of stuff.

Edit: Semi-beaten to it by Luke :(.
 

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i do not know if these was all ready said but i read on a forum that he was going to be on the game? could be bs
 
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Of course he appeared in the poll, but that doesn't mean an awful lot unless they came very near the top.

Dedede is basically confirmed, PIMPSLAP. He's Sakurai's own design, own character and from his own game, he's the most popular of all characters speculated to be in 'Brawl and he's the main villain of the Kirby franchise. Everything's going for him.
 

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He appeared 4 times on the poll. The only character who had more mentions was DeDeDe, who as you pointed out is Sakurai's own character. If anything, it shows that Sakurai is interested in him.
 
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Four times? I don't understand this about the poll... Is that different forms or something?

He's almost definitely in. Dedede is too popular.
 

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Well, in Sakurai's poll, Sakurai himself replied to 300 out of what was probably thousands of posts of people sending in suggestions for Brawl (not all necessarily character suggestions, some where stage and music, and a few were on gameplay mechanics). Someone translated what Sakurai said and picked out characters he had commented on. DeDeDe was mentioned in 5 posts, while Ridley, Diddy, Ike and Geno where in 4. Granted it only gives us Sakurai's view on some of the suggestions, and the actual character poll results hasn't been released yet.

There should be a thread out there somewhere detailing which characters were mentioned.
 
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Wow, my opinion of Geno has been upped. But do we know what he actually said?
 

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I think someone may have translated the comments, but it didn't seem to be in the same thread. Samurai Panda translated some of the comments, though they seem to be more focused on gameplay aspects.
 
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That handsome devil Sakurai. I'd love it if we found out Ridley had like the most votes. When will the poll results be revealed?
 

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No Ridley, plz no Ridley.

I know im gunna be attacked mercilessly for this I truly DO NOT want him as a playable character. I honestly dont care how popular it is.

It is WAY to be to fit and even it they shrunk him down a few 100 ft he would either
A) still be too big and his wings, etc. wouldnt fit or
B) He would look very weird and dum being so small. "out of porportion".
I do think that Samus should have an Antagonist in Brawl, but just not Ridley...maybe Dark Samus, however, i dont like her either but she would fit in much better than a giant dragon.

Thats just my opinion and i respect all of yours.
Go ahead try and convince me.....
 

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Ridley isn't that big, he may be just a smidge bigger than Bowser.

If you've ever played Metroid Prime, you can tell this during the ground battle with him.
 

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when u say "just a smidge bigger than Bowser", are u refferin to normal Bowser, Giga Bowser, or the huge Bowser from Mario 64?

Either way, he is much longer than Bowser, from nose to tail, and his wings extended wud make him very cramp within the stages. Maybe he could fly AROUND the stages, but within is out-of-the -question.
I saw a picture where Ridley was eating Samus and she was only the size of her tongue. Ridiculous.

Once again, maybe a boss but not a playable character, plz.
 

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That "huge" Bowser from Mario 64...is "normal" Bowser. Play Super Mario Sunshine, he's a beefcake and no mistake.
 

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y'know, sakurai should just hurry up and confirm ridely, so that noobs will stop this whole "0MfG, R1DLEY iS 2 B1g 2 f1T iN BrAwLzorZ!!!11one!" nonsense.
 

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Ridley is Gigantic yes, but his pose makes him much smaller, look at the 2d Metroid games were he's always hunched, he is just a little bigger than Samus, and in the ground battle in Metroid Prime, even if you had his original size he would look alright, and a small ridley woudln't look bad, i mean. I don't see Bowser being "out of proportion" and he is like 5 times smaller than he is in the games.
 

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It's not size that's a problem with ridley, it's his number of articulation points. Ridley has more limbs he can attack with then any other character in contention for Brawl. (2 forepaws, 2 hindlimbs, Neck and jaw, flexible tail, and 2 wings.)

This makes him the most complicated character to program.

I have absolutely no doubt he will make it in, but if the developers have to take shortcuts with him the way that had to with Mewtwo, they may not have time to balance him properly, meaning either he'll be Top tier or Bottom Tier.

It also means he'll be one of the last characters to be finished, and so may end up as one of the last to be revealed.
 

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It's not size that's a problem with ridley, it's his number of articulation points. Ridley has more limbs he can attack with then any other character in contention for Brawl. (2 forepaws, 2 hindlimbs, Neck and jaw, flexible tail, and 2 wings.)

This makes him the most complicated character to program.

I have absolutely no doubt he will make it in, but if the developers have to take shortcuts with him the way that had to with Mewtwo, they may not have time to balance him properly, meaning either he'll be Top tier or Bottom Tier.

It also means he'll be one of the last characters to be finished, and so may end up as one of the last to be revealed.
very good points. i have to agree with you on this.

still even last confirmed is better than not at all for me
 

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Size doesn't matter. Why you ask? Because Kirby is supposed to be 6 inches tall, and Olimar is even shorter, so if you say Ridley is too big, as an Olimar supporter, you've shot yourself in the foot.
 

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well i hope to god they don't do him like mewtoo poor guy just has no chance:(. I mean a level 60 awesomeness pokemon should not be able to suck thise bad he should be trading off with falcon and foxes...:(
 

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wow ridley has gone up a lot. i remember when krystal was number one on this site, until diddy stole that spot

EDIT: sorry had to see for myself, but krystal is still over ridley. i still support ridley more!
 

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Ridley wont be hard to program, he'll be as easy as anyone. The animation will be hard to make though(worst part of a game after making ai: making 3d or 2d models)
They would have to make a custom skeleton, that has more limbs than any other character.

Imagine, if you will, using an AR, and giving Mario Ridley's moveset. Attack with the tail. Now the wings. What moves?
 

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Imagine, if you will, using an AR, and giving Mario Ridley's moveset. Attack with the tail. Now the wings. What moves?
But what about Mewtwo in melee, you could still give his moves to other characters. I don't think that Ridley's model would be very difficult at all, and I don't think Nintendo is worried about how their game interacts with an AR...

Edit: Forgot to mention that Mewtwo has a tail........
 

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That's cause they made both Mewtwo's feet 1 piece of structure, and took the other leg and used it as a tail. It's really funny watching GW waking his leg in the air with Mewtwo's idle animation.

And all I'm saying is it's more complicated, and therefore will take longer.
 
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