Ridley for SSBB

[Lemon Drop]

Well Although we learn in Zero Mission that Samus growed up with the Choze we never knew that Ridley killed her parents.

Hmm, I guess your right, but the manual did say Space Pirates killed them. Also have you seen the Japanese endings for Metroid Fusion(or you can get them in Zero Mission by connecting the game with a copy of Metroid Fusion) one of the pictures shows kid samus being held by a someone I assume to be her parent and ridley is in the background.


Hey what's this?

>.> Hmm seems like Ridley is there

 

[dynamic_entry]

Hmm, I guess your right, but the manual did say Space Pirates killed them. Also have you seen the Japanese endings for Metroid Fusion(or you can get them in Zero Mission by connecting the game with a copy of Metroid Fusion) one of the pictures shows kid samus being held by a someone I assume to be her parent and ridley is in the background.


Hey what's this?

>.> Hmm seems like Ridley is there

Ridley is a space pirate. he's not THE leader of the space pirates, but he is certainly pretty high up in the space pirate food chain.

that pic shows samus' biological parents trying to defend samus from ridley and his merry band of space pirates.

 

[Shuma]

idley is the Commander/General of the Space Pirates, Mother Brain is the leader, i guess/think.

Also:
Well, how would i know that if i never played the Japanese Version!?

 

[kaid]

Mother Brain was the Chozo Defence Computer, on Samus's homeworld of Zebes. The Space Pirates reprogrammed it to work for them.

Now, obvoiusly, if they turned it into a loyal adviser, they would be fools to ignore it's advise...

 

[Phaazoid]

yea, i thought ridley was thier leader

 

[Stryks]

Theres been a lot of debate on whose the lider, ridley or mother brain, I for one am going with ridley, I have a question, does mother rbain appear in metroid/metroid zero mission?

If not then I gotta say ridley is the leader, I mean mother brain is no where to be found, yet ridley is there, so Im guessin hes the one in charge...

 

[Phaazoid]

plus Ridley also is a genius, so mother brain isn't their leader. he is the final space pirate you fight in prime 1, where the mother brain is nowhere to be seen.

 

[Shuma]

Yes but MOther Brain is like hmmm uncapable of miving? she/it resides on Zebes. So she couldn't be in Talon.

Also, yes Mother Brain is the end game boss of Metroid and Zero MIssion(well, here it's Robo Ridley but meh).

 

[Phaazoid]

last boss doesn't ensure space pirate leader. read this for both sides of the arguement. go to "Leader of the space pirates?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridley_(Metroid)#Leader_of_the_Space_Pirates.3F

 

[Shuma]

"The mother brain would be like the President of the United States and Ridley would be like a general or a commander of the army."

That's what i sayd... Ridley is the Commander, Mother Brain is the leader.

 

[kaid]

Mother Brain on Zebes predates the Space Pirates.

 

[Phaazoid]

@shuma

that was only for the metroid prime series. and ridley returns in three, after being knocked into a phazon pit. Metal Phazon Ridley?
Phazon mutates creatures like metroids to become stronger and smarter, and upgraded your suit to the phazon suit and your beam to the hyper beam(in prime 1), so ridley will be more powerful next time we see him.
Awesome!

 

[dynamic_entry]

i love the space priate food chain that is depicted in prime:

1. soldiers,
2. test subjects (these guys are only ranked higher if their phazon treatment makes them bigger and stronger....not necessarily smarter),
3. SCIENCE TEAM (u never see these dudes, but their scans totally rock. everyone remember the one where they try to replicate samus' morph ball, only the test subjects come out all mangled. genius!)
4. generals, for example Ridley, kraid, weavel etc. mother brain COULD be this rank as well
5. HQ - never really goes into much detail about what or who this is.

whether you love them or hate them, they have a functioning hierachy going on. they're basically like what humans would be if we had no comprehension of ethics or morals. gotta love that.

 

[Lemon Drop]

idley is the Commander/General of the Space Pirates, Mother Brain is the leader, i guess/think.

Also:
Well, how would i know that if i never played the Japanese Version!?

Don't forget what I said about Connectiong Fusion and Zero Mission together >.>

 

[Shuma]

Well. i don't have a cable link.

 

[Lemon Drop]

Well. i don't have a cable link.

I don't either, I borrowed one from a friend.

 

[Shuma]

What's the point of this? i was wrong, so....?

 

[Lemon Drop]

What's the point of this? i was wrong, so....?

I like proving people wrong for some reason.

Also I believe Ridley's Super Metroid should be his look.

 

[Shuma]

So Do i, , although i wouldn't care if he had the meta-ridley look, but i say, stick with the clasic, Super Metroid, Zero Mission's look should be the one in SSBB.

 

[dynamic_entry]

who cares what he looks like. all his incarnations rock. SPACE DRAGONS FTW!

..........seriously

 

[Deleted member]

He'll either look like he did in the 'Melee introduction, or look like he will in MP3 to promote that game.

 

[Neiteio]

I want Ridley in Brawl... SO. FRIGGIN'. MUCH.

So I want Ridley in Brawl. Badly. But I'm a skeptic by nature, see. Not a cynic, but a skeptic. I think it's because Nintendo has conditioned me to have low expectations, so I simply don't get my hopes up for something as thrilling as Ridley in Brawl. I err on the side of doubt.

In this case, here's what worries me.

First of all, let me say that Ridley's size is NOT an issue. Again, it's NOT an issue. Bowser was ten times bigger than Mario in SM64; they scaled him down for Brawl (and most of the Mario Kart / Sports as well). Kirby is only eight inches tall; they scaled him up. In the event that they use Olimar, who is the size of a quarter, or Chibi-Robo, who is several inches tall, they'll scale both up. Suffice it to say, size is not an issue. In fact, Sakurai already scaled down Ridley's size in the Melee intro!

HOWEVER, the fact that they can tweak his size does not make his design any less complex. The sheer complexity of Ridley's design boggles the mind. The spindly limbs, elongated torso, articulated neck, immense wing structure, multi-segmented tail... Ridley is like an assembly of clockwork moving in unison. This is what I think might dissuade Sakurai from including Ridley. It's the sheer complexity of his design, which is unlike most of the bipedal, more humanoid characters in Smash Bros...

But, if Sakurai wants a challenge... Ridley is the single best character they could add to Brawl. Seriously. He's perfect. Look at everything he brings to the table.

• Representation of the Metroid franchise: he appeared in Metroid, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime, Metroid Zero Mission, and the upcoming Metroid Prime 3.
• He's a VILLAIN, upping the bad guy count.
• He can FLY, adding to the air game, as Sakurai desires.
• He is COOL and UNIQUE, a badass space dragon with a body profile unique unto himself.
• He (apparently) ranked high on Sakurai's list, in Japan where nobody cares about Metroid -- remarkable, since if Japan wants Ridley and they don't like Metroid, then Ridley's a good addition since the rest of the world loves him as well.

These are some AMAZING credentials. And Sakurai has certainly thought about Ridley in the past. He's in the background of the Metroid stage in SSB1. He's in the intro to Melee. And he's a trophy, as seen below:

Go back to Melee and examine his trophy closely with the camera. IT'S ARTICULATED. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm nearly positive they fiddled with a working model of Ridley at some point. He may have proven too complex to properly implement at the time, but now, with Brawl nearly two years in development (they began roughly a year before E3 2006), they might finally put him in. And this is where I don rose-tinted shades, and the skeptic begins to take a backseat to wild hope...

- Neiteio

 

[lanky_gunner]

Amen to that! Ridley needs that sort of representation to be fully a part of the smash community.

Ridley for brawl!

 

[Shuma]

I always sayd that perhaps ridely was going to be in Melee, but they ran out of time.

Look, in the intro you can see Ganondorf's gauntlet, but he appears in the game as a clone, perhaps sakurai added him in the end, so he just gave him C. Falcon's attacks, but with Ridley since he is so unique and he couldn't have any cloned moveset then they didn't add him.

 

[Stryks]

Just so u know I know why Ganondorf turn out as a clone: (im gonna save everything I say in my post in my comp this is like the 10th time I say this)

Im bettin everyone saw (at least some pics) of the trailer where link and ganondorf are fighting:

This was indeed of a trailer in developmetn a bit b4 or after GC release, u c miyamoto and gang were making this game, so Im guessin miyamoto told sakurai to use this ganondorf (with sword and all) for melee, after a while, miyamoto and gang were worried that this new game would seem just too similair to OoT, thus they cancelled it, and work on another zelda game (WW), miyamoto told sakurai to cancel the sword ganondorf, with short time b4 the deadline, sakurai couldnt make up a new moveset by then, thus he had no choice, and makde ganondorf a falcon clone...

thats it... anyway dont know about ridley being in melee, but wasnt due to deadline, Ive heard of balloon fighter, mach rider, but doubt ridley was...

 

[Shuma]

Well, who knows? i mean the 3d Model is there, resized and with textures.

 

[Phaazoid]

the trophy is proof he is leader of the space pirates (read it people who thought i was wrong before)

400 post woot

 

[Vali]

Why include Ridley? Surely he'd just be too much of a Pikachu Charizard clone?

Spoiler

Na really, Ridley for Brawl.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm sure all characters in the opening were "considered".

 

[Lemon Drop]

Why include Ridley? Surely he'd just be too much of a Pikachu Charizard clone?

Spoiler

Na really, Ridley for Brawl.

Ignorance at its best.

Ridley > Charizard (Ridley existed first)

 

[Deleted member]

Highlight to the right of that, Lemon.

 

[Phaazoid]

i clone?

nintendo is better than that. sakurai is better than that. the only reason clones where in the other game was because of last minute additions. here he will have had time to be added.

 

[Lemon Drop]

Strange how because they have similar body structues all of a sudden equals clone

That must mean the next human characters is a link clone!

 

[Phaazoid]

and it means around 4 move sets in the whole game.

 

[Deleted member]

I think it's been settled already that Vali was joking, and Ridley does not equal Bowser. Ridley is completely different. Bowser is not a dragon. Ridley doesn't have a shell.

 

[Vali]

Ignorance at its best.

Ridley > Charizard (Ridley existed first)

Yay I got someone . Didn't actually expect that to work seeming the spoiler text sticks out like a sore thumb.

Edit: It actually works much better if you quote yourself saying it. Gotta remember that for the future.

 

[Phaazoid]

@lemon drop
you didn't know he was joking?

 

[lanky_gunner]

eh i really don't have much to say, just i still support ridley 100%. top nintendo character for inclusion in my book.

ridley for brawl already! update the site and tell us!

 

[Deleted member]

This is nearly to a hundred pages, it shows how much people love this guy. Space Dragon!

 

[lanky_gunner]

well then lets get it to 100 then. people support for ridley needed! 100 pages of pure ridley!