Reworking beta 2?

[kupo15]

There have been several complaints about beta 3's being a little slow and I tend to agree which is why I kinda went back to beta 2 while keeping some stuff from beta 3. Here is the the text.

Changes from original beta 2
Hitlag .4 + 1
Added momentum since people seem to add that in there anyway
Tech roll 1.5
Gaw 75% ARL
Link 25% ARL
ARL from 50% to 40%
Ivy 30% ARL
All grab breaks 30
Bowser thick skin
Ganon side b fix
Hitstun from .485 to .48

Giza's wolf 2C55C180

RSBE01
Smash Bros Brawl (US)

Brawlplusery Codeset  Beta 2

WiiRD Codes

Default Settings Modifier [9 lines]
* 24494A98 80000000
* 20523300 00000000
* 04523300 DEADBEEF
* 42000000 90000000
* 0417F360 00000104
* 0417F364 04000A00
* 0417F368 08010101
* 0417F36C 01000000
* E0000000 80008000
4 stock
Team attack on
8 mins stock time

Level Freezer[Phantom Wings/Almas, 8 Lines]
* 4A000000 90000000
* 1416A904 BF800000
* 22623090 00000014
* 22623090 0000001C
* 22623090 0000000B
* 22623090 00000009
* 22623090 00000015
* 22623090 00000006
* 1416A904 3F800000
* E0000000 80008000

ASM Codes

Dash Dancing [Phantom Wings, 5 Lines]
* C271F474 00000004
* 81830058 2C0C000E
* 4182000C C0230040
* 48000008 FC20D090
* 60000000 00000000

Shield Stun [spunit262, 6 Lines]
* C28753FC 00000005
* 83810034 8083013C
* 2C040000 41810014
* 1F9C000B 3B9C0016
* 38800005 7F9C23D6
* 60000000 00000000

P.Trainer No Swap on Death [Y.S./Phantom Wings, 11 Lines]
C2816AF4 0000000A
3E408062 3A523320
3A60FFFF 3E730001
7E732038 1E730244
7E529A14 80120000
2C00001D 41800024
2C000022 4181001C
2C170115 41820014
38A5FFFF 2C050000
40800008 38A00002
7C0802A6 00000000

P.Trainer Infinite Stamina: [Phantom Wings, spunit262]
* 04A8BDAC 60000000

No Autosweetspot Ledges [spunit262, 7 Lines]
* C27812B0 00000006
* 2C04000A 40A20020
* 8181003C 816C0018
* C00B0010 C02B001C
* FC000840 40A10008
* 38000000 5400CFFF
* 60000000 00000000

Character Specific Launch Modifiers [Almas, 29 Lines]
* C285765C 0000001C
* 3FA0805A 63BD92C4
* 2C002F00 4082000C
* C3FD0000 480000BC
* 2C002F20 4082000C
* 8083C594 48000034
* 2C002F14 4082000C
* 8083C59C 48000024
* 2C002F40 4082000C
* 8083C574 48000014
* 2C002F5C 41820008
* 4E800020 8083C558
* 3FA0805A 63BD9200
* 83DD0000 57C5463E
* 7C052000 4182001C
* 3BBD0004 3FE0805A
* 63FF929C 7C1DF800
* 4082FFE0 4E800020
* 2C002F20 4082000C
* 57C0673E 48000028
* 2C002F14 4082000C
* 57C0873E 48000018
* 2C002F40 4082000C
* 57C0C73E 48000008
* 57C0A73E 1C000004
* 3FA0805A 63BD929C
* 7FBD0214 C3FD0000
* EC3F0072 4E800020
* 60000000 00000000

Character Specific Gravity Modifier [Almas, 14 Lines]
* C281CAD0 0000000D
* 2C080000 4182003C
* 2C09FFFF 41820034
* 8088F5A0 3D80805A
* 618C9200 80AC0000
* 54A3463E 7C032000
* 4182001C 398C0004
* 3C00805A 600092A0
* 7C0C0000 4082FFE0
* 4E800020 54A5E73E
* 1CA50004 3D80805A
* 618C92A0 7D8C2A14
* C2EC0000 EC370072
* 4E800020 00000000

Jump/Grav Values [29 Lines]
* 065A9200 000000DC
* 0025CB60 0114F440
* 0235CB60 0305E440
* 0435CB60 0524E440
* 0628AC80 0735CB60
* 0824C440 0928AC80
* 0A35CB60 0B24F440
* 0C35CB60 0D34C440
* 0E35CA60 0F06E440
* 1145CB60 1234C440
* 1328AC80 1445ED40
* 1535CA60 1634E440
* 1745CA60 1825CA60
* 1935CB60 1A35CA60
* 1B35CA60 1D45CA60
* 1E26E640 1F34F440
* 2034F440 2125CB60
* 2238CA60 2335CA60
* 2534E440 2944EA40
* 2C55C180 2E35CB60
* 2F14ED40 3F4CCCCD
* 3F59999A 3F666666
* 3F733333 3F800000
* 3F833333 3F866666
* 3F89999A 3F8CCCCD
* 3F900000 3F933333
* 3F966666 3F99999A
* 3FA00000 3FA66666
* 3FB33333 00000000

momentum
* 048669D8 60000000

dash cancel
* C2764EBC 00000007
* 90810014 54846CFE
* 2C0417E5 41A00024
* 8081009C 80A4007C
* 80A50038 2C050005
* 40A20010 3C004F00
* 80840014 90040040
* 60000000 00000000

Char id fix
* C28152E4 00000002
* 819E003C 907EFFFC
* 60000000 00000000

Bowser's Thick Skin [Almas, 8 Lines]
* C276967C 00000007
* 3C60805A 606392AC
* C0030000 8004C690
* 2C00000B 40820018
* FC010040 4080000C
* EC210828 48000008
* EC210028 3C6080AD
* 60000000 00000000

Constants

No Stale Moves/Keep Fresh Bonus [spunit262]
* 02FC098A 00110000

Triping Rate Modifier [KirbyIsCool]
* 0481CB34 C0220020
* 045A9340 00000000

Buffer Modifier [Phantom Wings, spunit262]
* 0485B784 38600001
1 frame

Triple Jump Fix [Phantom Wings, spunit262]
* 04858DCC 38830003

No FF on C stick [spunit262]
* 0485E27C 40A20008
* 0485E278 2C000001

PS Mod [spunit262]
* 04B88F20 00000002
2 frames

Infinite Replays [3 lines]
* 040E5DE8 60000000
* 04953184 60000000
* 04953224 60000000

Frame speed mod
* C2766C20 00000014
* D01F0010 3C008180
* 807D0008 8063FFFC
* 7C030000 4080000C
* 80630030 48000008
* 386000FF 809D0014
* C0240040 FC40081E
* D8410008 8001000C
* FC210028 80BD007C
* 80A50038 38C200D8
* 84E60008 2C070000
* 41820048 7CE8C671
* 41A0000C 7C081800
* 4082FFE8 54E8863E
* 7C004000 41A0FFDC
* 54E8043E 7C082800
* 4082FFD0 C0060004
* FC21002A C04283D8
* FC011040 40A00008
* FC201090 D0240040
* 60000000 00000000

Changing constants

Hitstun [Phantom Wings, spunit262]
* 02B88F48 00030001
* 04B87AA8 3EF5C28F
.48

Hitlag Modifier [Phantom Wings/Almas/spunit262, 8 Lines]
* C2771EAC 00000003
* 1C840004 3884000B
* 39C0000A 7C8473D6
* 2C040000 00000000
* C2876220 00000003
* 1C840004 38840014
* 39C0000A 7C8473D6
* 80660064 00000000
.4 + 1

Frame speed data mod
* 065A9400 00000070
* 0B00003B 3F2AAAAA
* 1E00003B 3F777777
* 0A000040 3FAAAAAA
* 1A000040 3FAAAAAA
* 01000040 3F2AAAAA
* 25000041 3FD11111
* 02000018 4036DB61
* 12000018 3FAAAAAB
* 1F000018 40555555
* FF000018 40200000
* FF000074 40800000
* FF000061 3FC00000
* FF000041 3FD55555
* FF00000A 3FA66666
Gaw 75% ARL
Link 25% ARL
Ivy 30% ARL
40% ARL
Tech rolls 1.5
Jump speed 1.3
All grab breaks 30
 
MK dsmash 1600002F 3F59999A (waiting for frame data)

New characters to try:
leafs sheik 0E34A850
Giza's wolf 2C55C180

 

[leafgreen386]

Yeah, with the number of people complaining about beta3's speed (or rather, the lack of it), this might be a good idea. I also think most characters work better with a little grav, so ultimately this is probably where we would've ended up anyway. We should work on optimizing characters from here as a jumping off point.

 

[shanus]

Kupo, how about this. In your competitive code agenda thread, get rid of Muba & yours & Mookie's sets & Place Beta 3 and Beta 2 in the meanwhile or something?

I loved my Beta2 values, but there were are a lot of problems that were fixed from it in Beta3. I'll try and go through some of them off the top of my head.

Values you NEED from Beta3 to put in Beta2:
Links for SH aerial edgeguards
D3: Beta2 FF speed must be lowered, SH raised for double bairs
Wolf (what was the consensus on him anyways, some people loved my heavy feel for him, some people liked capes light feel for him?)
Charizard: My new values for him
MK: My beta3 for him is awesome
Kirby: He needed the lower FF from Beta2 to Beta3, use Beta3
Sonic: Nailed him perfect in Beta3 using DarkSonics inputs
G&W: Use Beta 3 for him, Beta2's FF speed actually makes his SH dair spam super super broken with his high FF speed


I dont have my chart here to look at the differences, but that should be a good starting point for you from the top of my head.

 

[kupo15]

I already removed it so now I need to add those sets in. Giza apparently had an awesome wolf value but I don't know where it is

 

[The Cape]

I have the Giza Wolf:

2C55C180

 

[kupo15]

how is it cape? Is it inbetween b2 and b3?

I need help replacing the old grab release fixes with the new ones posted in the op.

 

[The Cape]

Its between two and three and I think its superior to both. Gonna try out some the Samus and Sheik from beta 2 and see what I think of them as well. (Bit less float?)

 

[Osi]

This is where I am at combining the working characters from beta 2 and 3.

Jump/Grav Values [29 Lines]
065A9200 000000DC
0025CB60 0114F440
0245BA40 0305E440
0435CB60 0524E440
0628AC80 0735CB60
0824C440 0928AC80
0A75CB60 0B24F440
0C38CB60 0D34C440
0E244340 0F06E440
1145CB60 1234C440
1328AC80 1445ED40
1535CA60 1612E830
1745CA60 1825CA60
1935CB60 1A35CA60
1B35CA60 1D45CA30
1E26E640 1F34F440
2045C440 2125CB60
2238CA60 2335CA60
2534E440 2943EA50
2C55C180 2E35CB60
2F34ED40 3F4CCCCD
3F59999A 3F666666
3F733333 3F800000
3F833333 3F866666
3F89999A 3F8CCCCD
3F900000 3F933333
3F966666 3F99999A
3FA00000 3FA66666
3FB33333 00000000

 

[The Cape]

Which Beta 3s are you keeping?

 

[kupo15]

so this has what shanus mentioned in his post and the other b2 are left alone?

 

[Osi]

Yea I added mostly what shanus mentioned in his post that worked in beta 3, and the rest are beta 2 with some minor modifications.

Also added:

More height to ness SH
More full hop to peach
More full hop to dedede
Less SH to sheik
More gravity to sheik
Giza's wolf
Less full hop, and a little more gravity to Tlink

 

[shanus]

Looks great so far guys. Thanks for taking the time to help switch it all. Please keep thoughts in this thread for any more changes you think need to be made.

Kupo, in your set, do you have the frame changes yet and any other mods yet? if you don't know how to do this, we can ask Almas to incorporate it all in + the whorenado modifer and Boozers Thick Skin

Also, i wouldn't include momentum until its fixed.

 

[Almas]

The grav code functions across versions. So there's no need to modify that. Provided you still want the whorenado nerf and link's up B boost.

And yes, don't include momentum. We're aware it has numerous glitches, it requires no 'testing', and it isn't competitive when it's borked.

 

[shanus]

The grav code functions across versions. So there's no need to modify that. Provided you still want the whorenado nerf and link's up B boost.

And yes, don't include momentum. We're aware it has numerous glitches, it requires no 'testing', and it isn't competitive when it's borked.

Yeah I'm just not sure if copy pasted the version from 3 or 2 and I didn't know if he had to or not?

 

[The Cape]

Giza's Wolf and the Beta 2 Mario, Samus, and Sheik feel excellent.

Do it. :-p