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"Revival of DGames" Mafia

#HBC | J

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Wouldn't be the first time WATT jumped the gun this game. Remember the indy paranoia with Rake/RR?
 

Maven89

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I was specifically told it makes it so you can't be seen visiting someone

@Bold: After J role claimed though this should have been a bingo for you. Why not bring it up then, especially with people going back and forth between Rake and J?
I don't see it like that at all, I actually thought the opposite. The idea of a voyeur needed an invisibility cloak to operate made sense, and if it wasn't for him claiming he watched Spak I'd probably have started to doubt it.

J was scummy enough to get lynched without requiring me to out my role. I'm essentially a sort of jack of all trades, and with the tracker dead, the possible back up tracker revealed, and the janitor revealed, I thought I was the only backup left. I wasn't going to claim to get J lynched when the slot was going to get lynched anyways, and my item wasn't even 100% proof he was scum. I still believe the only reason J wasn't lynched yesterday was because of Rake's claim and Laundry's decision making process, which is just an act of God and not something you can account for. There was literally no need, and with Rake dead now I still didn't see any need outside of hte mass roleclaims
 

#HBC | J

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That is entirely backwards. (the reasoning for why the cloak made sense, but the Spak didn't)

Also there has been no Janitor revealed and Ryu was already the Back-up of the tracker due to him being Ryu.

You originally claimed theif and now you are claiming JoAT?

Yeah, nope.
 

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J if you're going to try and throw dirt on my slot you need to at least read my posts before responding, otherwise you get things like your Day 1 push on me or this right now

I said from the start that I pick one of 3 non-reusable items and a player to use it on. The apple turned out to steal. At no point did I claim thief.

You did nothing day 1 but ask terrible questions and sit out, then 24 hours before the deadline come in and tried to get someone lynched on points that didn't even happen, day 2 you flip flopped on almost everything you've said and revealed that you thought there was a second item thief (but just wasn't going to let anyone know that), then claimed you watched Spak, an action that makes no sense for you to have as your #1 town read. You had an item that made it so you couldn't be detected. And now we know that the mafia swapped Gheb and Spak, so by watching Spak you were really seeing what actions were taken against Gheb. That right there is the smoking gun because there's no other reason for you to watch Spak.

So you can stop trying to throw dirt on me and start trying to defend why you watched Spak and everything else, because even if your wildest dreams were true, even if I really was independent, it doesn't clear you at all. Outside of Spak there's your play the entire day that has been criticized I think by almost every single player.

I plan to vote Kantrip but don't want to rush the day before we all agree to end it, so I'm planning to abstain until it's time. I won't hammer either
 

#HBC | J

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Hmmm, nothing of what you say is ever truly correct and I don't get why you keep trying to convince me that I am scum when I am never voting for myself/never going to be scum so you're just being a derp at this point. You re-iterate the same points over and over like they are gold and try to equate them to being scumtells when they aren't.

D1, everyone has gotten over besides you. My target makes sense and I have explained in detail on D2 which everyone, sans you finds not suspicious. I also don't need to throw dirt on your slot because it's already filthy scummy as is. People are just finally coming around to see that.

Also my apologies for pointing out an error with janitor/jailer, but that's a big difference so stop being so persnickety.
 

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J, you have one tactic. You avoid answering questions, then you give bull**** summaries where you pretend you did. Then you insist it's personal and throw a pity party for you.

You never defended why you had Spak as a town read. You never defended why you tried to lynch me 24 hours before the deadline when you had no idea what was going on. You never explained why you automatically assumed there were 2 item thieves and kept it silent. You never explained why your item stops you from being seen. You flip flopped on almost every major point you had Day 2 and the only people you focused on were those pushing you. Almost everyone lynched you on Day 2 J, I can't imagine how your brain works if you really believed you could say "people got over me day 1" and believe people would forgot what happened day 2, that's just sad

J this is the last post I'm making to you, it's getting real old and I kept holding out I'd get you to actually respond, you know? Like actually play

But no, you're doing the same thing you've always done the whole game. Even now with Kantrip you're still focusing on people attacking you. Why aren't you trying to find Kantrip's scum partner? I know I am. But you're not. Not even a little bit. Why don't you care?

We jail J tonight and the game is over
 

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"Well I don't know why you're trying to get me to vote myself"

What type of an idiot could ever possibly be fooled by a line like that? Poor show J.

If anyone actually believes there's a better target to be RB'd tonight then J come forward and I'll explain why you're wrong
 

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So, another updated roles list after getting corrected by J:
  • Rosa, Gheb, Rake - Town, no stealies
  • J - Town Weak Voyeur (+ Role Cop)
  • Spak - Has no night action
  • Fanny - Watcher
  • Kantrip - Bus Driver
  • Maven - Walrus Hunter
  • Ryker - Jailer
  • Nicholas - ?
  • Dancer - The Doctor (No TARDIS in sight, co-oberated by J)
  • Ryu - Neighborizor w/ Rosa's tracking
  • Wots - Scrutinizer
Confirmed
Not Claiming
Claimed
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#HBC | J

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1.) I have defended why I had a town read on Spak.
2.) I have defended why I tried to lynch you on D1.
3.) I never automatically assumed, I had evidence to prove that, which YOU yourself co-oberated
4.) I have explained why my items stops me from being seen.
5.) I haven't flip-flopped on the reads I have made on D2.
6.) I have not only been focusing on people who have pushed me (I.E. I would be on Fanny and I have been pursuing WATT)
7.) I did not say "people get over me day 1", they have gotten over my play then on D3. And re-looking at the vote-count only you/Fanny/Rake were on me at the end of D2.

Just a little point by point. Also, I have been searching for scum-mates, whereas you have just been on me all game and no one else. You have not presented another scum-read and also have not been doing anything but sitting in your little corner saying "Jscum!!!!" till your face turns blue.
 

#HBC | J

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And call it a pity party, but there is no woe from me besides your push on me is literally asinine.
 

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Wots read through that again. I was answering Dancer's question involving Day 2 when J attacked my slot on points that didn't occur, when I was explaining it I brought up that J was clearly Kantrips partner (because he clearly is) and that he should focus on preparing to defend himself from that instead of attacking my slot with worthless points. He then attacked my slot again and insisted my push on him was overly scummy, so I responded to how scummy he was and that he was still lying about having answered or defended himself from the questions before, and as such my push on him was not scummy, that being his argument against me.

J is the one pushing me over my J push. I'm defending it. The only "attack" was to say we jail him at the very end of a single post.
 

#HBC | J

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But the fact remains:

So right now, this is basically amnesty mode, where I'm not going to push you for a while and will try to look at other slots, but at the end of the day, baring a large bingo or worse scummy actions from another player, you're still probably the lynch choice
You still haven't done the bolded. In fact, you've done the opposite toDay.
 

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Sorry J, I don't talk to scum

But as the final farewell, I literally answered that right above your head, and people should read the sentence before my amnesty offer. Things change when a scum member is pinned.
 

Wots All This Then?

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Wots read through that again. I was answering Dancer's question involving Day 2 when J attacked my slot on points that didn't occur, when I was explaining it I brought up that J was clearly Kantrips partner (because he clearly is) and that he should focus on preparing to defend himself from that instead of attacking my slot with worthless points. He then attacked my slot again and insisted my push on him was overly scummy, so I responded to how scummy he was and that he was still lying about having answered or defended himself from the questions before, and as such my push on him was not scummy, that being his argument against me.

J is the one pushing me over my J push. I'm defending it. The only "attack" was to say we jail him at the very end of a single post.
Thats one post out of the...six? You've made regarding j
 

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That's...not even close to accurate. I just explained the J talk in all of those posts you mentioned, and I talked about it in the quote you just posted. I made it clear that there were multiple posts mentioned, hell half of those posts you mentioned are just one sentence addons to previous posts.

I said I was going to focus on other players because it wouldn't be useful to hardbody J at the start of the day. I directly stated I still wanted to lynch him, I just wanted more use from the day. And with the role claims, we now have the scum bus driver

You guys need to get your head out of your assess with this "maven's directing attention to J again" nonsense. I came in here explaining my role claim and how it related to my actions Day 2, which included the J push. That is not me pushing J, that is me talking about myself and how the role played into it. Then Dancer asked for more clarification on why I never roleclaimed, and I explained it. Then J pushed me for attacking him at all so I defended it. And now Wots is attacking me for daring to mention J at all, so I'm defending it.

Every post I've made at J this day has been in response to someone else asking me or pushing me about it. I'll be half shocked if I don't see a "lol why is maven still talking about J?" post in response to this one when I'm clearly answering J-related questions directed at me.

I do plan to make a large post outlying all possible Kantrip connections based on a re-read I'm going to make, and I'm still 99% positive J is going to be the clear #1 target. I've been waiting on Nicholas to make his roleclaim so we can move on to the next stage of the day to decide on who we RB tonight.
 

#HBC | Kary

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So i'm completely fine with where my vote is atm, but it will take me a while to read all this ****e. I would just read the first Day and skip the rest but malheureusement there's all sorts of PR/NA ****e to turf through.
 

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read 25% and can't be arsed right now. Videogames. Someone talk to me. Who should I be voting for?
Your slot has the popular vote at the moment, and Kanny we might have to force a Kantrip vote at the end of the day, but we were both his and other slots when Ryker subbed out. Maven is focusing on J because of what he found in his night phases and is making a large post of Kantrip connections off of a re-read, and Nicholas needs to role claim soon-ish.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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I was specifically told it makes it so you can't be seen visiting someone



I don't see it like that at all, I actually thought the opposite. The idea of a voyeur needed an invisibility cloak to operate made sense, and if it wasn't for him claiming he watched Spak I'd probably have started to doubt it.

J was scummy enough to get lynched without requiring me to out my role. I'm essentially a sort of jack of all trades, and with the tracker dead, the possible back up tracker revealed, and the janitor revealed, I thought I was the only backup left. I wasn't going to claim to get J lynched when the slot was going to get lynched anyways, and my item wasn't even 100% proof he was scum. I still believe the only reason J wasn't lynched yesterday was because of Rake's claim and Laundry's decision making process, which is just an act of God and not something you can account for. There was literally no need, and with Rake dead now I still didn't see any need outside of hte mass roleclaims
Tbh I'm having a hard time following your logic that J's item doesn't proof him to be 100% scum to you. He NEVER claimed that the cloak prevented him from being tracked, but rather that it allowed him to use his voyeur ability. For easy reference, here is his claim:

Maybe I should explain a bit more now that I am thinking about. Here's my role:

I'm J, Town Ghost Mod. Someone took my invisbility cloak which stops me from being a ghost. My passive ability is that if I post a gif of:



I get to change the flavor to Pheonix Wright in the Death Scenes since I am most known for using PW .gifs. I just have to post one during any time of the day phase. I also will say that my other ability is Weak Voyeur. I am a watcher as long as I hold onto my cloak, but the second that's gone (unless it is returned to me), I revert to being a Townie with my PW Passive.

I also get a mod-vote for breaking not posting a Dahlia Gif, but the kickback is super sweet too.

I will say this, my ability/flavor is a big reason I have been playing the way I have been. I did get results last night, and it will explain why I have someone as a higher town read.
If Bard told you that the cloak granted a ninja status a well as immunity (which I guess is the inability to get poisoned?), then after seeing J's claim where he NEVER mentioned this then that should have been 100% proof to you that J lied/withheld information and is thus scum for his claim.

Kanty you NEED to explain the rational for your choices ASAP. The longer you take the more I'll be forced to assume that you're forging a reason. That or that you have just given up. If you had legit reasons then it shouldn't take long to claim them.

Spak what does TARDIS mean?
 

#HBC | Dancer

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Maven everything about not wanting to claim because you feel you didn't need to to get J lynched/thought it would be bad to claim I follow, but the part where you said "The idea of a voyeur needed an invisibility cloak to operate made sense . . . " makes absolutely no sense. Logically speaking, after J claimed what he did you should have realized that he, at the very least, wasn't telling the full truth based off of what Bard told you about the cloak.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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WATT, I still want you to answer my question. I'm not simply brushing this to the side as you "jumping to gun." Why did you claim before Maven if based off of your role you had strong reason to believe that he was the thief?
 

Wots All This Then?

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why the **** do you care about these slots at this point
Blank slots we hadnt discussed yet. We had n opinions on most of the rest of the game at this point
WATT, I still want you to answer my question. I'm not simply brushing this to the side as you "jumping to gun." Why did you claim before Maven if based off of your role you had strong reason to believe that he was the thief?
You're waiting on dietz. I don't know why he did it then
 

#HBC | Kary

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Your slot has the popular vote at the moment, and Kanny we might have to force a Kantrip vote at the end of the day, but we were both his and other slots when Ryker subbed out. Maven is focusing on J because of what he found in his night phases and is making a large post of Kantrip connections off of a re-read, and Nicholas needs to role claim soon-ish.
yes but what is
YOUR
OPINION
 

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yes but what is
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Personally, I think that the Mafia knew about me and Gheb getting switched because my D1 play didn't make me a viable NK target, so either Kanny is Mafia or one of the trackers is Mafia and targeted Kanny that night.
 
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