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Its not difficult to understand at all, but I am just not entirely convinced about your reasoning for townreading and deciding to save Gheb over any other slot when after being outed claiming to have targeted Gheb was by far your safest option.
Would like to hear more about your reasoning for this. Can you elaborate on these connections?If J flips town or Indy, look at Dancer/Wot
If he flips Mafia, body Spak/Kantrip.
Do you mean if Dancer were to flip town that you would re-evaluate? I mean I think WATT is more likely to be scum than Dancer, if Dancer to flip town how much would that affect your view on scum watt? Also how do you feel about WATT unvoting now?
I mean, he is right thought, both could be scum, just as likely as it is both could be telling the truth and be town, its also possible both are scum, that's the point of this game, to consider the possibilities and to see if it makes sense in the context of the player's play. Leaving the options open is not scummy in itself.
I mean this is funny, because this is the exact same reason we think you are scum, you self admittedly skim through D1, yet still post a lot in it, that just look like you were trying to seem like you were generating content and helping, your D1 was filled with pointless questions and lack of follows up.
You made a horrible push about me and have dodged it ever since, I've been hounding you to explain this for over a real life week and you've avoided and refused every time, eventually you almost get lynched for avoiding it and your response is seriously to come in and go "lol you focus on yourself"?@Maven89
Ironically this post proves my point on you basing your reads 100% on yourself.![](http://[URL="http://smashboards.com/threads/revival-of-dgames-mafia.411080/page-32#post-19916773"]"Revival of DGames" Mafia[/URL])
I am responding to your questions from D2, but quick question is did you even read that my post was my collection of notes from D1? Because all of that post is "Me! Me! Me! I! I! I!".
Day 2, yeah I haven't looked at almost anyone else but you. You really have yourself to blame for that, you should have responded to this much earlier
Actually it's your horrible push on me day 1 and your refusal to defend it, then the sudden 180 in multiple reads you have the second you read up
Did you move me from scum to independent, or did you just fail to mention that you've been thinking I was independent? Cause now we have you claiming both
Yes, I know. That's my whole point, you haven't answered these at all since Day 1.@
J, if you had responded to mine (or Dancer's) questions, then we wouldn't be in this situation now would we?
Part of the reason you want Dancer dead is because he wanted you lynched regardless of what you flipped, for information.
How is it any different? When I posted that, I practically assumed you were gonna try to tear me a new one for it. Instead, you give me praise?
logical leap much?qutoing for emphasis.
Everyone vote ryu btw
Why do people still think that lynching one of Ruy or Rake is gonna confirm the other that another night phase wouldn't?
"My logic is sound my logic is sound you are 100% scummy because you base your reads on yourself!"@
Ironically this post proves my point on you basing your reads 100% on yourself.
I am responding to your questions from D2, but quick question is did you even read that my post was my collection of notes from D1? Because all of that post is "Me! Me! Me! I! I! I!".
And yet it's still not working. There's different approachs toe very situation because every situation is different. Other places may be fine with your attitude towards D1 or may be stupid enough to look at a wall and call you "town" but that doesn't mean we do. It's a 7 day phase here, you have much less room to hide, and people are going to call you on your bull**** because we have the time to. It's not that you're not pleasing everyone, it's that you're not pleasing anyone, and the infallible, "I-know-better-than-you" act just makes it worse. Please, please stop this. It gets you into more trouble than it should.
I'd ask if you've even read but you already answered that question for me. If you assume that his approach to you d1 is the same as his approach to you d2 then you're sorely mistaken. You would've realized that had you given d1 more than a skim.@
Again, this is the exact same argument that others have used: "I wanna lynch J for information because his flip helps me determine the alignment of other slots". Yet it's **** or scummy to you when they do it but I get a pass.
Nah, it's not. He posted a wall, I responded, then immediately said "nah no more walls" and deliberately limited myself to a paragraph. Neither you nor Swords would've done the same because you have a history of this type of ****, extending far back to Pulp Fiction mafia.Pg. 25 irony. WW vs. RR walls battling each other. Then when me and Dancer do it, we are shamed.
But that's none of my business, correct?
Simple:
NVM the fact that you're doing this exact **** right now."My logic is sound my logic is sound you are 100% scummy because you base your reads on yourself!"
Nvm the fact Ryker does that **** all the time (your read disagrees with my read therefore you are scummy)
Nvm the fact that I do that **** from time to time (this person on my wagon is not making sense he's scummy)
J's never gonna give me a straight answer, and i want to see how other people felt before I go on J with my pigeon holed opinion of it.
Those were in my words. Show me where Ryker and Kantrip said anything in regards to that question; just because they think Rake is scum as well doesn't automatically mean that I'm using their words. I came to my own informed conclusion and am sticking to it.Hey, uh, Spak, he said in your own words, not the words of Ryker and Kantrip.
Except they're the ones pushing Rake under the "he's not dumb enough to do this" argument and they phrased it as such long before you so your point falls apart there.
No, I don't think that is necessarily an indication of being scummates; I think he's just pusing me because he thinks I'm exhibiting "Pawnish" behavior; I doubt the two are related and if they are, I doubt you would introduce the idea to me.Spak, how do you feel aboiut Laundry defending me so much ?
Are we scum mates for it ?
And why can't I have the same opinion as someone else? Is that a crime?Except they're the ones pushing Rake under the "he's not dumb enough to do this" argument and they phrased it as such long before you so your point falls apart there.
If "Pawnish" behavior has nothing to do with your stance on me, then what reason do you have for reading me scum?That post had nothing to do with my stances on you.
When the entirety of your opinions are someone else's, yes.
No, I mean Rake's questions had nothing to do with you nor my treatment of you.
Well, I made my reads based on what I read through D2, posted what I found scummy/townie about everyone's posts for a few pages (I think it was 20-25), and developed my opinion based upon that. It's true that other people's analyses of the situation were in those posts that I reread (and may have in turn effected my judgement on the reads), but I pointed out some stuff that hadn't been questioned yet and made reads based on who's posts I thought were truthful and with town intent and who's weren't. Those are my honest reads and if you don't believe them, sucks for you.
Oh, OK.No, I mean Rake's questions had nothing to do with you nor my treatment of you.
That can just happen sometimes unless you think he is blatantly sheeping and parroting everyone else.When the entirety of your opinions are someone else's, yes.
No, I mean Rake's questions had nothing to do with you nor my treatment of you.
Is this Orbo or Dietz?I got actual heat stroke at the pga. You're all on your own for a while
