Euro stagelist, with all of my arguements quoted is my current stance, this is most likley being reflected at melbourne tourneys from now on (unless someone convinces me otherwise)
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If what you say is true Redact, why does the Euro stage list you posted include Pokemon Stadium? You make no sense. There would be no "counterpick" stages in the first place if there were such a criteria players followed such as "if it's not balanced enough as a neutral it's not balanced enough to be played". Just because PS was a neutral at one point doesn't mean the Smash community was right to have categorized it as one.
This is due to the stage striking system, stage striking heavily favours one player if the amount of stages are even, PKS is there due to it generally being classified as the least neutral of the neutral stages, long with the bugs the stages can present (falling through the stage). In no way is it a CP due to the lack of balance, its due to the bugs first and foremost.
I ask you, what is the point of a counterpick system without counterpick stages? You have not shown a valid reason as to why RC, Brinstar or Kongo cannot be counterpick stages beyond "some American pros say so" which is as half ***** an argument if there ever was one. I can just say "if a stage is not balanced enough as a neutral it can be considered for eligibility as a counterpick stage, else it should be banned" and say that you'll see American pros saying the same thing, suddenly my argument is no less valid than yours is considering how much evidence you've bothered to give. Give reasons for a stage being banned or counterpick, not flimsy half-quotes from people you haven't even proven exist let alone presume they have any authority over tournament rulesets.
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The point of a counter pick system is to provide the person a stage they are more comfortable with playing, rather than providing them a stage with an obvious advantage. The idea is that you play a balanced stage that you are most comfortable with, thus only the most balanced stages should be selectable (those being the 6 generally accepted stages).
KJ can be circle camped beyond beleif for many characters, peach vs any faster character. Ganon vs any faster character so on. Theres plenty of matches out there showing that (pink shinobi vs crocrock i think)
RC's lack of ledges at many points, moving stage and rediculously low ceiling for most parts provides rediculous advantages for some characters (Space animals) along with a wall perfect for infinites being available at the very start.
Brinstar's suffers from the same issues as RC, where as the stage just favours some characters too heavily, such as sheik.
As I said, the stages available should all be well balanced in MOST matchups (if we catered to every matchup, no stages would be available) where as staged like KJ64, Brinstar and RC favour some characters IMMENSLY in a large amount of matchups, being an almost guaranteed ban when some characters are being used regardless of their matchup (id happily take ANYONE to rc as falco)
Yes I understand some neutrals favour some characters in certain matchups, but the 6 provided are by far the most even stages, with the buggy one being placed as a counter pick.
