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Regional Power Rankings Outrage!
A viewpoint/stand taken by Karthik
featuring quotes from Omnigamer
We aren't playing Candyland, mods. We are a professional community. This is seriously an outrage.
Omnigamer: "There's a big long logic argument that I could give against it, but I just did that a few mins ago to another user, so I'll give a summary version of it: essentially, a regional/state rankings thread only encourages sentiments against players of a local community. Simply because of the type of discussion that it implies."
djkarthik: How are they different from National rankings? Wouldn't that cause disturbances between regions if that were the case? I don't see the major controversy regarding this.
Omnigamer: On the national scale, the players that would be arguing such things are across the country from each other. So any sentiments that develop aren't nearly as personal as they would be with someone you play fairly regularly. Believe me when I say that I'd like to have the national thread shut down at this point as well, but that's not a practical possibility.
What is this? Limiting freedom of expression? I could get into Censorship issues here, but I won't do that. Do we consider or want to consider the Super Smash Bros. Melee community to be a professional community? If so, I don't see why there shouldn't be National, Regional and statewide rankings. All professional sports have them, why not Smash?
Omnigamer: "With the nature of the forum environment of smashboards, such threads are always prone to flame fests. Which has happened with a number of threads in the past."
To what degree to we measure "flame fests"? The Power Rankings are just the collective opinions from a group of individuals. What? Opinions. What's wrong with opinions? If a certain thread becomes filled with flame posts resulting into a simple spam thread, then just close that one specifically. Why close all related threads?
Omnigamer: "Look at this in a manner of being collectively fair. Even if such a thread is run correctly, there's always the opportunity for unruly users to disrupt and nearly completely cut off the original purpose of the thread. Is it the fault of the original creator that this happened? Of course not. But in that light, there are other threads run much the same way that don't happen to have such a problem, how is it fair to that particular user?"
Just think about what you said. If that person's thread was becoming a flame war, then they should have used that "warn" button next to the unruly users' posts. It IS their fault that that thread was locked in the first place, so what's not fair about that?
Omnigamer considers the Smash Rankings to "Hurt the structure of the local community," and considers them to be different from the National Rankings due to the fact, that "...it's also not as susceptible to developing negative sentiments because of the geographical distance and impersonality of the arguers." I find this to be quite a blow to the community's professional aspect.
SideFX is creating a new forum for our Power Rankings now. Don't get me wrong Omnigamer and other mods; I respect you dearly, seriously. However, I strongly disagree with your policy on Regional Power Rankings, and don't like what you have done.
Thank you. Is this going to get locked as well? Perhaps.
Sincerely,
Disgruntled Panelist
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Omni Edit: A possible solution is in the works. Check the SBR for details.
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Regional Power Rankings Outrage!
A viewpoint/stand taken by Karthik
featuring quotes from Omnigamer
All of us saw that just now. On NorCal's rankings thread. On SoCal's rankings thread. And possibly on other regional Power Ranking threads as well. The threads were closed. Outrage? Yes, I think so. I had posted how I feel that the Power Rankings are rather significant to have at a National aspect as well as a Regional aspect. It gives a sense of competition amongst the community. Is that wrong? No, after all, we are a professional community.
We aren't playing Candyland, mods. We are a professional community. This is seriously an outrage.
Omnigamer: "There's a big long logic argument that I could give against it, but I just did that a few mins ago to another user, so I'll give a summary version of it: essentially, a regional/state rankings thread only encourages sentiments against players of a local community. Simply because of the type of discussion that it implies."
djkarthik: How are they different from National rankings? Wouldn't that cause disturbances between regions if that were the case? I don't see the major controversy regarding this.
Omnigamer: On the national scale, the players that would be arguing such things are across the country from each other. So any sentiments that develop aren't nearly as personal as they would be with someone you play fairly regularly. Believe me when I say that I'd like to have the national thread shut down at this point as well, but that's not a practical possibility.
What is this? Limiting freedom of expression? I could get into Censorship issues here, but I won't do that. Do we consider or want to consider the Super Smash Bros. Melee community to be a professional community? If so, I don't see why there shouldn't be National, Regional and statewide rankings. All professional sports have them, why not Smash?
Omnigamer: "With the nature of the forum environment of smashboards, such threads are always prone to flame fests. Which has happened with a number of threads in the past."
To what degree to we measure "flame fests"? The Power Rankings are just the collective opinions from a group of individuals. What? Opinions. What's wrong with opinions? If a certain thread becomes filled with flame posts resulting into a simple spam thread, then just close that one specifically. Why close all related threads?
Omnigamer: "Look at this in a manner of being collectively fair. Even if such a thread is run correctly, there's always the opportunity for unruly users to disrupt and nearly completely cut off the original purpose of the thread. Is it the fault of the original creator that this happened? Of course not. But in that light, there are other threads run much the same way that don't happen to have such a problem, how is it fair to that particular user?"
Just think about what you said. If that person's thread was becoming a flame war, then they should have used that "warn" button next to the unruly users' posts. It IS their fault that that thread was locked in the first place, so what's not fair about that?
Omnigamer considers the Smash Rankings to "Hurt the structure of the local community," and considers them to be different from the National Rankings due to the fact, that "...it's also not as susceptible to developing negative sentiments because of the geographical distance and impersonality of the arguers." I find this to be quite a blow to the community's professional aspect.
SideFX is creating a new forum for our Power Rankings now. Don't get me wrong Omnigamer and other mods; I respect you dearly, seriously. However, I strongly disagree with your policy on Regional Power Rankings, and don't like what you have done.
Thank you. Is this going to get locked as well? Perhaps.
Sincerely,
Disgruntled Panelist
<3
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