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Regarding Master Hand

King Siegfried

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We have a tournament in the midwest this weekend, and my friend is a bit of a comedian.
He's proposing that he play as Master Hand for the tournament.
Thoughts?
I know nearly nothing about the rules regarding his use in tournament play, and am looking for some insight.
Kthx.
 

Kal

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You just damage him and grab the ledge. In most rulesets, that's a win.
 

King Siegfried

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As I understand it, you have to outlast him for 8 minutes, and be ahead on percent. Is it true that you lose the match if you lose one stock?
 

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just make it so any match with master hand in it is to be reduced to 1 stock 2 minutes.
and ban him in teams, or something
 

Pi

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there are other ways to win aside from killing ur opponent lol
hbox armada g2
not all stocks were lost, a winner was still announced
 

Strong Badam

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lol
using master hand is stalling
takes forever to choose your character, have to delete a ton of names on every setup, and every game goes to 8 minutes and freezes afterward. the fact that I can contest port priority, get 3rd port, and then you can no longer use your character makes it such an obviously sketchy "character" choice.
this is a case of don't be an idiot.
 

rhan

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OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR





You can play with out the memory card. Go to Yoshi's.

And pick Fox.


Shoot Lazers.


Win.



Edit: Stanima mode of course.
 

King Siegfried

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My friend is a bit of a troll. He wants to revolutionize the Master Hand metagame. I'll pass your thoughts along to him.
 

Dimitris

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If it were me hosting, I guess I would only allow MasterHand + stamina mode under Gentlemen's Agreement. If they have fun that way...
 

Ghostbone

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lol
using master hand is stalling
No it's not >.>, unless you have a weird definition of stalling.
takes forever to choose your character
Not if you know how to do it well.
have to delete a ton of names on every setup
No you don't
every game goes to 8 minutes and freezes afterward.
Only if he loses, so it's not the Masterhand player's fault. It doesn't take that long to reset a gamecube after the match anyway.
Add onto that the fact that it's highly unlikely a set with a masterhand player will go to game 3, it's not that bad in terms of how long the set would take.
HBox vs Armada would take longer :awesome:
the fact that I can contest port priority, get 3rd port, and then you can no longer use your character makes it such an obviously sketchy "character" choice.
Ports are decided before characters, so someone doesn't have to go Masterhand if you choose 3rd port, and at least for counter-picks, they're assured 3rd port.
this is a case of don't be an idiot.
Eh, unless he's explicitly banned in the ruleset, technically he's legal.
He's a terrible character anyway (in singles, he's broken in doubles though), and goes 100:0 with other characters when the opponent knows what they're doing.

In any case, to the guy who's asking, the TO is highly likely to not let your friend pick Masterhand, even if he's not banned in the ruleset, which is a little silly, but meh, he should be banned anyway.
 

CloneHat

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I'm surprised Grim Tuesday hasn't posted already:

Master hand can only viably be played in doubles, and his team loses once they reach one stock collectively.
 

Ghostbone

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Master hand can only viably be played in doubles, and his team loses once they reach one stock collectively.
Eh?
Masterhand is broken in doubles, just because you can pick two of them, and de-sync them, and just **** at that point.....
Plus they only need to take 1 stock from the opponent to win.
 

The Star King

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Master Hand isn't good kids. It's not hard to stall him out for eight minutes if you know how his attacks work at all.

If there's any reason he should be banned, it's that using him eats up too much time lol
 

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Funny how rules have been changed souly based on Puff/peach, fox, ice climbers, and mewtwo; but there has been no amept to make rules for master hand. I don't see the probleem with saying 150%= one stock vs masterhand removes nearly all the issues of time related problems.
 

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You can spam out the *** by simply holding the buttons for the move you want with Master Hand. There's hardly any time to rack up damage on him, meanwhile you're busy avoiding back-to-back attacks from m.hand.
 

CloneHat

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Eh?
Masterhand is broken in doubles, just because you can pick two of them, and de-sync them, and just **** at that point.....
Plus they only need to take 1 stock from the opponent to win.
uhh what are you talking about? Only player 3 can be master hand. That means the other character will lose stocks and be forced to steal from Master Hand, who is not allowed to play if their teammate is out of play.

I've done this at tournaments.
 

Mr.Jackpot

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If it were me hosting, I guess I would only allow MasterHand + stamina mode under Gentlemen's Agreement. If they have fun that way...
If it were me hosting, I guess I would only allow hide and go seek under Gentlemen's Agreement. If they have fun that way...
 

Ghostbone

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uhh what are you talking about? Only player 3 can be master hand. That means the other character will lose stocks and be forced to steal from Master Hand, who is not allowed to play if their teammate is out of play.

I've done this at tournaments.
Why is Masterhand not allowed to play if their teammate is out of play?

Anyway, port 3 always controls Masterhand, so if both the players on one team pick Masterhand, then 1 of them will control both of them.
And two Masterhands is broken >.>
 

Bones0

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lol
using master hand is stalling
takes forever to choose your character, have to delete a ton of names on every setup, and every game goes to 8 minutes and freezes afterward. the fact that I can contest port priority, get 3rd port, and then you can no longer use your character makes it such an obviously sketchy "character" choice.
this is a case of don't be an idiot.
You don't have to delete any names. You just scroll to the bottom before doing the glitch.
 
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