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[unityole]

recoveries, problem is that they cant hit u, and u kno ur link is better than ur mario

 

[Zantetsu]

If you've been keeping up with the Brawl news, you probably know about "hugging"--grabbing the ledge from the platform. Well, I found out that you can already kinda do this with Fox!

Dash towards a ledge, turn and hold the stick that way, and if you timed it correctly you should turn, slide off, and then grab the ledge.

I don't know if you can do this with other characters, but I've tried it out with a few and it seems like only Fox can do it.

Edit: can someone check with some other characters? I don't have the best tech skill, so yeah...

I'll probably upload a vid of Fox doing this by this weekend if people still have questions.

Lol wow I still wonder why people keep thinking they have found this. I'v met around 3 people who think they have found this but yet it's so old. It's basically a pivot.

 

[greenblob]

It's not exactly a pivot, which is using a standing attack during a few frames of a dashdance in which you're in the standing position. It's more of a turn around slide.

Anyway, if it's known, it should be on the first post. Should we call it "hugging," or since it was known before Hugs discovered it in Brawl, should we use a different name?

 

[unityole]

Originally Posted by Hungry Gamer
Oh computers definatly play mindgames!

no computer doesn't do mindgames, they just react so fast as soon as you move they can calculate the speed, distance and everything so they usually likely to hit you first. it's not reading mind.

 

[6th Sense]

Here's what I have to say. Pikachu backthrow...Link Up B...Pika f smash...Link Up B...Pika F smash...Link Dead

 

[unityole]

Here's what I have to say. Pikachu backthrow...Link Up B...Pika f smash...Link Up B...Pika F smash...Link Dead

that is only if u can backthrow link, you probably wont get more than 3 chances to do that against isai or superboom. So think of this now, a game with 5 or 6 stocks, and u get to back throw them 3 times or less, and they might not get edge guarded by you within those 3 or less chance. therefore you couldnt possibly think link would suck that bad.

link is actually pretty **** mobile if you play it properly.

 

[igotHYRULEbannedatTOYWIZwitmarth]

Thanks I learned alot from reading! oh and you forgot edge hogging like yoshis down b onto an edge

 

[6th Sense]

that is only if u can backthrow link, you probably wont get more than 3 chances to do that against isai or superboom. So think of this now, a game with 5 or 6 stocks, and u get to back throw them 3 times or less, and they might not get edge guarded by you within those 3 or less chance. therefore you couldnt possibly think link would suck that bad.

link is actually pretty **** mobile if you play it properly.

Well then let's just move Isai's link up to Top Tier if thats how you want to compare

 

[ant-d]

Oh yeah, there's also this glitch:

If Kirby does N-air, without Z-cancel, on the rising platform it can combo and hit twice.

On Saffron City.

 

[greenblob]

Teeter cancel (TC)

You can cancel your dash by running to the edge into a teeter animation.

Implication
You could potentially do any standing technique out of a dash if you're next to an edge.

Applications
Teeter dashdance--cancel your dash with a TC and then dash back without the skidding animation
Do any standing attack out of a teeter

 

[unityole]

Oh yeah, there's also this glitch:

If Kirby does N-air, without Z-cancel, on the rising platform it can combo and hit twice.

On Saffron City.

only on saffron city? what about congo jungle or samus' stage with that most right side moving platform?

 

[ant-d]

That's already known. And is in many combo videos.

 

[greenblob]

Yeah, I kinda figured that it was already known. But I think everything should be formalized and put on this list and on the wiki.

 

[JaimeHR]

Anyway, if it's known, it should be on the first post. Should we call it "hugging," or since it was known before Hugs discovered it in Brawl, should we use a different name?

LOLCOPTER, wasn't that a made up joke by Gimpy? it's just edge hogging while your character is facing an opposite direction from the edge, there's no way to do that on SSB and Melee so there's no "Hugging" in those games anyway.

 

[greenblob]

Fox can do it out of a dash.

 

[ant-d]

Any character can grab the edge out of initial dash. Or pivot edgehog.

It's the fastest way to grab the edge in many situations (you should fast fall for added effect). Of course, Yoshi's special jump cancel edgehog should be mentioned. However, it's not easy to do.

 

[Zerk]

How can I escape DK's FThrow?
ty in advance

 

[rokimomi]

How can I escape DK's FThrow?
ty in advance

PLEASE correct me if Im wrong antD but wasnt it UpB > DownB rly fast over and over again to escape? Thats the things that comes to my mind. Its used for making something quicker, but I seem to have forgotten.

 

[ant-d]

Up+A, Down+B repeat
or
Left+A, Right+B repeat

Or B first. Just alternate.

You actually don't have to do it for a long time.

Old questions, someone should make a thread with all mine and malva's posts in
regardless of content

 

[rokimomi]

This is kinda like a spam holder thread so people dont post a million questions and mess up the boards. There really is no "true" adv thing like in melee. No one wants to step up and do it.

No organizational skills within anyone? Im shocked.

 

[Wenbobular]

Heh rokimomi, my organizing skills suck something awful.

 

[ant-d]

This should be added. Malva did this in one of his videos, and then we found out how to do it.

All character Block-Jump-

All characters can do this. It was already known that Yoshi could do it.

Method:

Jump out of shield.

You are invulnerable for 2 frames, including grabs.
You can't jump-block long attacks such as many smashes. However, Pikachu can jump-block to up+b, he can then pass through almost all attacks without getting touched.
Fox can of course reflector cancel out of it, this also has much priority. These added moves require quick timing.

Video:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wZcob0DDIbs

As you can see, Ness can cancel his second jump resulting in many DJC-Blocks.
You an also Up-smash out of the shield. However, the up-smash is NOT invincible. So you have to time it at the last possible frame.

 

[Wenbobular]

Umm...how do you do it consistently

 

[ant-d]

Umm...how do you do it consistently

stick jump out of shield

 

[bobwaffles]

Hmm... I'm having a bit of a hard time short-hopping. I tap the button as quick as a can, but it still ends up doing a regular jump most of the time. I use the analog stick for jumping usually, so it's hard for me to get used to using the jump button. Any advice?

 

[D.Q]

button sliding or something
idk don't use controllers
btw why is there like nothing on teleporting D= D= D=
need to know how to do that consistently

 

[sharkoftheday]

Any character can grab the edge out of initial dash. Or pivot edgehog.
.

What Greenblob is mentioning is not done out of an initial dash.

Edit: (Try this again) Sorry, I didn't read your response before posting this.

 

[Shady418]

how do you cancel up B moves, with link for example

 

[Steck]

What is platform canceling?

 

[infernovia]

Hmm... I'm having a bit of a hard time short-hopping. I tap the button as quick as a can, but it still ends up doing a regular jump most of the time. I use the analog stick for jumping usually, so it's hard for me to get used to using the jump button. Any advice?

If you are using a keyboard, try putting one of the c buttons next to your attacks. This is the only way to consistently shorthop. Since the directions should always be at 100%, you can't shorthop with up.

If you aren't, well, try to do it in training and slowing down time.

 

[choknater]

lol. i thought sex kicks were called sex kicks because characters spread out their legs while doing it?

 

[Surri-Sama]

stick jump out of shield

Ok i know we dont get along but i actually find this post usfull..haha...


When your doing this...with a fast grabber can they grab twice and end up grabbing you anyways? can you attack once youve jumped out of a shield?

 

[ant-d]

The nintendo jp site contained so much information. Even the 2 frame invincibility out of shield is on there...

considering it was last updated in the year 2000

it has: Z-cancel, D.I, invincible shield jump, falcon punch direction etc plus a lot more other information

 

[Zen Yore]

The nintendo jp site contained so much information. Even the 2 frame invincibility out of shield is on there...

considering it was last updated in the year 2000

it has: Z-cancel, D.I, invincible shield jump, falcon punch direction etc plus a lot more other information

whats next hax for there own game?

 

[infernovia]

I have a question.

I was playing in kaillera and was using fox. The other guy's samus had a fully charged blast ready. While I was recovering (I don't know fox well so I missed the ledge) I went over it and took the blast head on. No damage, no knockback. Just 4 frames of pause with a wtf just happened thing.

Does anyone know what happened there?

 

[Zen Yore]

I have a question.

I was playing in kaillera and was using fox. The other guy's samus had a fully charged blast ready. While I was recovering (I don't know fox well so I missed the ledge) I went over it and took the blast head on. No damage, no knockback. Just 4 frames of pause with a wtf just happened thing.

Does anyone know what happened there?

o_o lolwhut

 

[killa k]

I have a question.

I was playing in kaillera and was using fox. The other guy's samus had a fully charged blast ready. While I was recovering (I don't know fox well so I missed the ledge) I went over it and took the blast head on. No damage, no knockback. Just 4 frames of pause with a wtf just happened thing.

Does anyone know what happened there?

wtf fox got super armor?! O_o

 

[infernovia]

It was strange, I haven't tried replicating it. It didn't create a desynch and the other guy confirmed what happened.

The stage was dreamland with all chars and mushroom kingdom cheat on.

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

Was there a flash

It was strange, I haven't tried replicating it. It didn't create a desynch and the other guy confirmed what happened.

The stage was dreamland with all chars and mushroom kingdom cheat on.

Do the moves have the same priority, If so, were you still using the move, did you grab the edge while being "hit" or after

If not, thats a weird glitch

 

[infernovia]

Edit: I meant that I have never ever had firefox cancel out projectiles before. But ok, maybe I shouldn't knock the possibility. I did hit the edge but went over so maybe the hitbox extended past fox?

There might have been a flash, but the memory is kinda faded.

I was still using the move and I landed on the stage, not the ledge.