Fortress | Sveet
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air moves:
perfect shff is 15 frames long and there is 3 frames before you are airborne. air moves lag = 18 + lcancel lag.
nair:
hit 4-31
lcancel lag 7
rating: 11/25 or 44%
bair:
hit 4-19
lcancel lag 10
rating: 11/28 or 39.2%
dair:
first hit 5-6 last hit 23-24
lcancel lag 9
rating: 10/27 or 37%
fair:
first hit 6-8 second starts 16
lcancel lag 11
rating: 3/29 or 10.3%
uair:
hit 8-9 and 11-14
lcancel lag 9
rating: 6/27 or 22.2%
nair is the safest move overall closely followed by bair (more lag). to put that in perspective, fox's roll has a 51.6% rating (4-19/31 frames)
edit: on dair and uair i counted safety from first hit to last hit, which isn't really the case. the real ratings of those moves is slightly lower, but this is a good show of effective safety.
ground moves:
jab:
hit 2-3
total 17
rating: 2/17 or 11.8%
dash attack:
hit 4-17
total 39
rating: 14/39 or 35.9%
ftilt:
hit 5-8
total 26
rating: 4/26 or 15.4%
dtilt:
hit 7-9
total 29
rating: 3/29 or 10.3%
utilt:
hit 5-11
total 24
rating: 7/24 or 29.16%
smash attacks:
fsmash:
hit 12-22
total 39
rating: 11/39 or 28.2%
dsmash:
hit 6-10 (legs invincible frame 6)
total 49
rating: 5/49 or 10.2%
usmash:
hit 7-17 (head, but not snout, invincible 1-9)
total 41
rating: 11/41 or 26.8%
Comparison list:
Nair 11/25 44%
Bair 11/28 39.2%
Dair 10/27 37%
Uair 6/27 22.2%
Fair 3/29 10.3%
Jab 2/17 11.8%
Dash Attack 14/39 35.9%
Ftilt 4/26 15.4%
Dtilt 3/29 10.3%
Utilt 7/24 29.16%
Fsmash 11/39 28.2%
Dsmash 5/49 10.2%
Usmash 11/41 26.8%
credit to SDM for his very nice frame lists
perfect shff is 15 frames long and there is 3 frames before you are airborne. air moves lag = 18 + lcancel lag.
nair:
hit 4-31
lcancel lag 7
rating: 11/25 or 44%
bair:
hit 4-19
lcancel lag 10
rating: 11/28 or 39.2%
dair:
first hit 5-6 last hit 23-24
lcancel lag 9
rating: 10/27 or 37%
fair:
first hit 6-8 second starts 16
lcancel lag 11
rating: 3/29 or 10.3%
uair:
hit 8-9 and 11-14
lcancel lag 9
rating: 6/27 or 22.2%
nair is the safest move overall closely followed by bair (more lag). to put that in perspective, fox's roll has a 51.6% rating (4-19/31 frames)
edit: on dair and uair i counted safety from first hit to last hit, which isn't really the case. the real ratings of those moves is slightly lower, but this is a good show of effective safety.
ground moves:
jab:
hit 2-3
total 17
rating: 2/17 or 11.8%
dash attack:
hit 4-17
total 39
rating: 14/39 or 35.9%
ftilt:
hit 5-8
total 26
rating: 4/26 or 15.4%
dtilt:
hit 7-9
total 29
rating: 3/29 or 10.3%
utilt:
hit 5-11
total 24
rating: 7/24 or 29.16%
smash attacks:
fsmash:
hit 12-22
total 39
rating: 11/39 or 28.2%
dsmash:
hit 6-10 (legs invincible frame 6)
total 49
rating: 5/49 or 10.2%
usmash:
hit 7-17 (head, but not snout, invincible 1-9)
total 41
rating: 11/41 or 26.8%
Comparison list:
Nair 11/25 44%
Bair 11/28 39.2%
Dair 10/27 37%
Uair 6/27 22.2%
Fair 3/29 10.3%
Jab 2/17 11.8%
Dash Attack 14/39 35.9%
Ftilt 4/26 15.4%
Dtilt 3/29 10.3%
Utilt 7/24 29.16%
Fsmash 11/39 28.2%
Dsmash 5/49 10.2%
Usmash 11/41 26.8%
credit to SDM for his very nice frame lists
