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Rate Their Chances - Smash Ultimate Edition! Day 672: Five Most Likely First and Third Parties for Smash 6, and Final Goodbyes

Kotor

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Hades

Chance: 5%
With Smash being Sakurai's current project, I doubt there's another team working on a new Kid Icarus game for the Switch. Hades being a villain doesn't help his chances.

Want: 5%
I don't really remember Hades all that well despite playing Uprising. I never went back and did a full playthrough of the game after beating it once. I'm content with Dark Pit getting his specials tweaked to reflect the other weapons in the game (mainly the weapons he used on his titular chapter). Replacing his bow with the staff won't cut it for me. I remember Dark Pit's main weapon becoming the silver bow after his chapter and beyond.

Nominations
Marth and Roy get their English VAs x5
 

jamesster445

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The best part of Kid Icarus Uprising

Chance- 25%
Want- 100%

Hades is by far the best part of Uprising both as a character with the best quips and also the final boss fight against him is the best part of the game. Hades has fantastic moveset potentially playing as a SHMUP boss that fits his troll personality. The only problem I see is relevance and his current status within canon. Granted that second one can be handwaved due to Smash itself not being canon. There's also a bit of a size issue, but unlike say Ridley, Hades has the natural proportions of a human making him more scalable (Plus of Hades does get scaled down there's literally no excuses left for Ridley considering Ridley's a big compared to Hades).

Nominations- Wonder Red x5
 

waddledeeonredyoshi

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Ok I get the belief that Hades would be the KI pick. I wont bother trying to argue against that.


But what makes you think that another KI character is at least a coin flip when KI hasn't received any games/media since before smash 3ds release? Just want some elaboration since I feel like this score is going to be a big outlier :p
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Ehhhh, perhaps I feel like Uprising was a important enough game that it could've carried Kid Icarus's relevance all the way up to when the roster was decided. And yeah, Sakurai bias could also be a part of it. :dizzy:

I could change it to a 25% if 50 really does seem like to high of a score to you guys.
 

Aetheri

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Hades

Chance: 1%
I don't see a new Kid Icarus character happening at all...

Want: 5%
Well he was a neat character, had probably one of the best reveals for a villain I've ever seen in a video game...but at the same time I'm not worried about whether or not he makes it...

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Predictions:
Banjo & Kazooie-19.08%
This one will be all over the place...

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Dark Samus x5
 

NintenRob

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Hades
Chance 2%
I doubt Kid Icarus is getting another character and if it does, I kinda doubt it would be him sadly
Want 74%
He was an absolute delight in uprising. I'd love to see him again

Banjo prediction 12%

Nominate Parabo and Satebo x5
 

Wyoming

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Nomination update:

Geno x253
Ashley (WarioWare) x253
Micaiah x241
Isabelle x240
Lana (Hyrule Warriors) x236
Blue Bowser x232
Tethu (EverOasis) x228

Over 200:

Arle Nadje (Puyo Puyo) x223
Veteran: Lucas x207


199-150

Concept: veteran character artworks recycled from Smash 3DS/Wii U x186
Veteran: Mewtwo x185
Agumon x175
Mike Jones (StarTropics) x170
Ganon x166
Black Shadow x162
Bomberman x155
Music: Final Destination (Ver. 2) x150

149-100


Impa x147
Lycanroc x146
Urban Champion x145
Veteran: Greninja x141
Travis Touchdown x135
Funky Kong x134
Dark Samus x134

Sans (Undertale) x133
Kamek x131
Qbby (BoxBoy!) x129
Concept: Decloned Dark Pit x126
Pyra/Mythra (without Rex) x121
Spyro x115
Snip & Clip (Snipperclips) x111
Tsubasa Oribe (Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE) x100
Concept: Octopath Traveller Character x100

99-75

Lip (Panel de Pon) x96
Ryu Hayabusa x95
Simon Belmont x95
Concept: Marth and Roy given their English VAs x95
Masked Link x94

Azura (Fire Emblem) x91
Mipha x90
Neku Sakuraba (The World Ends with You) x88
Concept: Ken Masters alt Costume for Ryu x86
Linkle x85
Concept: Skyrim representation x85
Octoling x85

Concept: Decloned Ganondorf x83
Excitebiker x82

2B (Nier: Automata) x78
Sylux x76

74-50

Fjorm (Fire Emblem) x72
Cranky Kong x71
Labo related character x68
Gengar x62
Fawful (Mario & Luigi) x61

Klonoa x60
Tetra (The Legend of Zelda) x60
Parabo and Satebo x59
Wonder Red (The Wonderful 101) x56
Concept: Fire Emblem Spear User x55
Zeraora (Pokémon) x54
Thwomp x53
Lara Croft x50
Katrielle Layton x50


49-30:

Veteran: Roy x48
Papyrus (Undertale) x45
Veronica (Fire Emblem) x44
Lloyd Irving x42
Concept: Fire Emblem Heroes Summoner x40
Concept: Wars character x39

Concept: Mother Newcomer x35
Callie and Marie (Splatoon) x35
Susie (Kirby) x35
Doshin the Giant x32
Veteran: Bayonetta x32
Balloon Fighter x31
Django (Boktai) x30
Mimikyu x30


29-15

Snorlax x29
Dragonite x27
Ray (Custom Robo) x27
Gooey (Kirby) x27
Barbara The Bat x27
Veteran: Dr. Mario x27

Hector (Fire Emblem) x 26
Medusa (Kid Icarus) x 26
Leo (FE Fates) x26
Returning game mode: Smash Run x26
Takumi (Fire Emblem) x25
Sophitia (Soulcalibur) x25
Double Day: Sheriff / Diskun x25
Prince Fluff (Kirby) x25
Tiki (Fire Emblem) x25
Concept: Style Savvy Character x25
Nia and Dromarch (Xenoblade) x24
Sakura Shinguji x23
Concept: Indie Character x 22
Sable Prince x22
Tingle x21
Scizor x 21
Veteran: Palutena x 21
9-Volt x21
Stage: New Donk City x21
Endou Mamaru x21

Arcade Bunny x 20
Concept: Historical Nintendo character (Similar to Game and Watch or R.O.B.) x20
Viridi x20
Primarina x20
Pokemon Trainer (Gen 2) x20
Concept: Masked Dedede Final Smash x20

Toon Zelda x19

Tom Nook x18
Tails x18
Concept: Canon Bowser/DK/Diddy voice clips x18
Mach Rider x17
Poipole (Pokemon) x17
Rick/Coo/Kine (Kirby) x16
Slippy Toad x15


14 and less:

Starfy x14
Veteran: Robin x 14
Petey Piranha x13
Concept: Custom Moves Return x12
Mallo (Pushmo) x 12
Concept: Sonic Mania Stage x12
Concept: Capcom Character x12
Ghirahim x12
Veteran: Cloud x11
Toad x11
Veteran: Dark Pit x11
Samurai Goroh x10
Stanley the Bugman (Donkey Kong) x10
Donkey Kong Jr. x10
Concept: Custom Final Smashes x10
Quote x10
Concept: Core Crystal Item (XC2) x10

Concept: F-Zero Newcomer x9
Veteran: Pac-Man x9
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) x9
Dragonborn x9
Veteran: Sonic x 7
Incineroar x7
Tora and Poppi x7
Zangoose (Pokemon) x6
Black Mage (Final Fantasy) x6
Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight) x6
Bubbles x6
Kozukata Yori (Fatal Frame) x5
Concept: Decloned Lucina x5
Galacta Knight (Kirby) x5
Morag and Brighid (Xenoblade) x5
Master Chief x 5
Ninten (Mother) x 5
Concept: Mega Man 11 stage x5
Concept: Return of transformation characters x5
Concept - Melee/Brawl style Classic mode x5
Ayane x5
Alm (Fire Emblem) x 5
Concept: Metroid: Samus Returns Stage x5
Asuka x5
Abraham Lincoln (Codename STEAM) x5
Masked Man (Mother 3) x5
Ayumi Tachibana x5
Itsuki Aoi x5
Concept: Shin Megami Tensei Protagonist x5
Monita (NintendoLand) x5
Cross/Rook/Avatar (Xenoblade Chronicles X) x5
Toon Link x5
Yooka & Laylee x5
Caeda x5
Concept: Charizard Remerged with Pokemon Trainer+complete movesets x5
King Hippo x5
Glass Joe x5
Master Hand x5
Solaire (Dark Souls) x5
Reinhardt (Fire Emblem) x5
Dr. Kawashima x5
Hyness (Kirby Star Allies) x4
Rick the Hamster x4
Shadow the Hedgehog x4
Mii Fighters x 4
KOS-MOS x4
King Boo x4
Geese Howard (Fatal Fury/ King of Fighters) x3
Mario RPG representation (Including Paper Mario and M&L) x3
Poochy (Yoshi series) x3
Veteran: Corrin x 3
Porky Minch x3
Veteran: Wii Fit Trainer x3
Specter Knight x3
Saki x3
Weavile x3
Slime (Dragon Quest) x3
[Rerate] Isaac (Golden Sun) x2
Vaati x2
Nightmare (SoulCalibur) x2
Joker (Persona 5) x2
Concept: The Sims character x2
Toadette x2
Jack Frost (Shin Megami Tensei) x2
Concept: Snipperclips representation x2
Jeanne (Bayonetta) x2
Garon x1
Rosalina & Luma x1
Bowser Jr. x1
Knuckles the Echidna x1
New Mii Fighter types (concept) x 1
Harry (Teleroboxer) x 1
Sheik x1
Undertale Representation x1
Revali x1
Daruk x1
Urbosa x1
Jack (Harvest Moon) x1
Sol Badguy x1
Kyo Kusanagi x1
Ryoma (FE Fates) x1
Falco x1
Vivian (Paper Mario) x1
Mallow (SMRPG) x1
Concept: Playable Master/Crazy Hand x1
Blastoise x1
Alph x1
Marshal (Rhythm Heaven) x1
Tapu Koko x1
Hyper Light Drifter x1
Dark Falz x1
Silvally x1
Hat Kid (A Hat in Time) x1
Captain Syrup x1
Concept: Tetris Stage or Assist Trophy x1
Concept: Ms.Pac Man alt costume for Pac Man x1
Concept: Entire roster revealed at E3 x1
Stage: Sheikah Shrine x1
Stage: Ultra Space x1
Stage: Miitopia Stage x1
Stage: Happy Home Designer x1

Changes:

Isabelle not only cracks into top 7, she sits 4th within striking distance of 3rd place Micaiah.
The top 7 switched around a lot. Lana got some late noms to propel her ahead of Blue Bowser for the day.
Arle Nadja is outside the top 7.
Lucas breaks 200 noms.
Music: FD (Ver 2.) breaks over 150 noms.
Octopath Traveller breaks 100 noms.
Sylux is now over 75 noms.
Wonder Red, Lara Croft, and Katrielle Layton break 50 noms.
Django and Mimikyu break 30 noms.
Canon Bowser/DK/Diddy voice clips, Rick/Coo/Kine, and Slippy are no longer under 15 noms.
No new additions, but some lower ones got some love.

 
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HADES!

Chance: 5%
Not before yet 19 years until he'll get a new body after his final fight in Kid Icarus: Uprising.

Want: 60%
For all the meta jokes he can make alone.
"We've never have enough swordsmen in Smash!" to give an example.


Nominations:
Concept: Female announcer x5

Banjo-Kazooie prediction:
15.37%
 
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Hades

Want: 100%
He would be absolutely amazing. He could be a power house character with zoning capabilities. Basically he eould be a mix of Ganondorf, Azrael (Blazblue), and Dormammu (Marvel Vs Capcom). He is easily one of the greatest and most hilarious villains ever and my favorite character in anything period. Also, as the true villain of Kid Icarus, I think he is a solid pick. If he gets in i’m going to spend soooo much time learning him. Plus imagine all the funny stuff he could randomly spout during battle.

Chance: 15%
I dont think hes likley unfortunatley. Kid Icarus doesn’t have a huge future right now. That being said im remaining optimistic.

Nominations: Wonder Red x5
 

Organization XIII

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Chance: 10%
I don't think KI is getting a new character anytime soon. The franchise has returned to dormancy and with no real plan to revive it. Hades is a cool guy but it's an uphill battle for him.

Want: 80%
On one hand, KI is already good with the 2 characters it has now on the other Hades is amazing. Well being cool trumps silly fan representative limits in my book so I'd be happy to see him.

noms: Tethu X5

Prediction: Banjo-24%
 

Troykv

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Changes:

Isabelle not only cracks into top 7, she sits 4th within striking distance of 3rd place Micaiah.
Wow... At this pace, Isabelle would actually arrive to the Top 1 before the current schendule finish.

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Hades... Eh?

Chance: 10%

Well... He's a villain, and popular character; but he's also a one-shot and a villan... So yeah.

Chance: 50%

I think he would be cool, but I don't have special feelings about the idea.

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Predictions Time!

Banjo Kazooie: 13.13%

Nomination time!

Micaiah (Fire Emblem) x5
 

wildvine47

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Hades

Chance: 10% - Kid Icarus likely isn't getting a new rep given the series' inactivity since Uprising, as well as the strong negative reaction to Dark Pit. Even if it were to get one, Hades faces heavy competition from Medusa, who has more series history behind her with just as much moveset potential, and who's actually been seen in a form that isn't city-sized. Things aren't looking good for this big bad.

Want: 30% - I never really found Hades as entertaining as everyone else seems to thing he is, and his design/color scheme is atrocious to me. I'd much prefer Medusa who's a lot less busy design-wise and who was the series OG villain before he upstaged her. He'd certainly be better than Dark Pit though, at the very least.

Predictions

Banjo-Kazooie: 11.11% - Ooh man, tomorrow's gonna be rough. Expecting the XBOX head's quote on them to be brought up a lot, but I really don't think it'll help too much in the long run. There's a reason they'd be such a great surprise reveal, and that's because no one's actually expecting them to make it. They're definitely going to do super well on want though, and for good reason. You can't say no to this bear and bird.

Nominations:

Impa x 5
 

ShinyRegice

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Hades chances: 2%
There doesn't seem to be a particular reason why he'd be likely this time. Maybe he was low priority for Smash 4 and is going to be higher priority this time for whatever reason?

Hades want: 20%
I once watched a video of a dialogue of him with Pit and Palutena from KI:U and found him funny, but I don't really care much overall.

Banjo & Kazooie prediction: 8.98%

Nominating:
Concept: veteran character artworks recycled from Smash 3DS/Wii U x5
 

YoshiandToad

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Hades
Chance: 6%

With how often Smash rosters are based on the previous Nintendo era, Hades inclusion doesn't look super likely. I imagine Medusa or Viridi would have the advantage over him due to seniority/reoccurrence and popularity respectively.

Want: 10%
Hades is a funny character. But so was Palutena in Uprising. You know what doesn't translate well into fighting games? Gags. Verbal gags especially. No matter what Hades quips with it will become tired and irritating after the 30th repeat.

He's a fine villain in Uprising, affable almost, but Palutena was wanted by many for her humour and none of that translated into Smash outside arguably the Guidance, an optional, easy to forget it's there extra.

I fear Hades would be the same. Medusa and Viridi seem to be a little more interesting move set wise, but I'm worried Viridi would also end up that way.

Prediction:
Banjo-Kazooie: 23%

Nominations:
Isabelle x5
 
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Hades

Chance: 1%
Kid Icarus hasn't done anything new. Given that Smash Switch will likely focus on Nintendo titles that were too late for/came after Smash 4, things aren't looking good for him. If we do get a 'new' Kid Icarus character I'd put my money on a decloned Dark Pit.

Want: 0%
Never played KI:U, sadly.

Banjo Prediction: 13.45%

Nominating KOS-MOS x5
 

Llort A. Ton

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The blue guy from Hercules

Chance- 5%
Everyone else said it already. Kid Icarus probably isnt gonna get another game until 2037, claims of Sakurai bias may lead to new Kid Icarus content being light this time, and Viridi and Medusa exist.

Want- 1%
He's a villain, so thats cool I guess? Ive only played NES Kid Icarus, know nothing about him.

Bizzle Kazizzle, Fo' Rizzle- 16.64%

Thwomp X 5
 

Ura

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The guy from Hercules Kid Icarus

Chance: 1%


Kid Icarus is no longer relevant not to mention it already has 3 characters in Smash. The only thing I see happening to the current roster of characters is maybe Dark Pit gets decloned somewhat.

Want: 10%

I'm not really interested TBH. I think Kid Icarus is represented just fine on the roster. That being said I loved KIU on the 3DS.

Prediction: Banjo-Kazooie

Chance: 21%
Want: 57%

Nominations


Mike Jones X 3
Masked Link X 2
 

BandanaWaddleDee

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Hades
Chance: 3%
Want: 75%

Banjo-Kazooie Prediction: 12.21%

Nominations
Decloned Dark Pit x4
9-Volt x1
 

andimidna

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Story mode:
The concept I want most, and the clearest downgrade from brawl to Smash Wii U.
There was enough dev time to flesh this out.
Chance: 60%
Want: 100%

Hades:
Chance: 3%
Want: 70%
It’d require a new game in the works imo. At the moment, we have 2 unique characters and a last minute clone. Uprising is perfectly represented. Viridi seems like the clear next tertiary character. Medusa is kind of the overarching series villain.
There’s so much going against this tbh
Furthermore, a new game isn’t likely
He’s a fun character though, along with Viridi and Medusa etc.
Also I’m lowkey glad I don’t see requests for Magnus anymore

BK prediction: 25%
I’m gonna take a risk and go a little high

x3 Ghirahim
x2 Azura
 
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Sid-cada

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Hades

Chance - 0.5% - In his own words, he's coming back in the sequel... 25 years after Uprising. That's what, 19 years away? Let's face it, the series is probably going to be dormant for a long, long while, again. I don't think there's even going to be another Kid Icarus character.

Want - 40% - I like him, but I just don't think he'll be that interesting.


Predictions

Banjo-Kazooie - 9.23% - Oh, Rare...


Nominations

Arle Nadja X5
 

Erureido

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Hades

Chance: 5%

He's up there for one of the most likely candidates as the next Kid Icarus due to his main antagonist role in Uprising, but with no new Kid Icarus game in sight and competition with the likes of Viridi and Medusa, things are looking tough for Hades.

Want: 55%

He's a fun villain, and while the villain representation and moveset potential does sound appealing, he's not a character that I truly want in Smash at the moment.

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Predictions

Banjo & Kazooie (Banjo & Kazooie): 7.34%

No comment.

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Nominations

Greninja (Pokemon): x5
 

Runic_SSB

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Hades

Chance: 10%
Sakurai got a lot of flak last time for adding so much content from his own game into Smash 4, including a blatant fanservice character that makes no sense as a playable fighter, a character who's identical to Pit but with different default specials, replacing Classic mode's difficulty scale with the difficulty scale from Uprising, half the Smash Run enemies being from Uprising, two assist trophies, and Palutena's Guidance replacing the Snake Codecs. That, combined with the fact that there's been no KI content in 5 years, means his chances are really low.

Want: 80%
Hades is, hands down, the best character in the game. I like Magnus more, but he sadly had almost no screentime despite having a lot to his character. The only thing that stops either of them from being 100% is that we're currently over-saturated with KI stuff.

Banjo-Kazooie prediction: 30%

Nominations:
Travis Touchdown x2
Funky Kong x3
 
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TumblrFamous

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Hades

Chance: 5%
As much as I love him, I don't see it. Being that Sakurai showed no remorse in adding a metric ton of KI content into the last game, I wouldn't rule him entirely out. But I don't even know if there's going to be a new game. And I could honestly see Viridi or Medusa being added before Hades.

Want: 100%
If there was one thing that got me hooked on KI: Uprising, it was the characters. Pit, Palutena, Viridi, and most importantly, Hades. So funny, so meta, so maniacal. He has a lot of potential as a fighter and I'd love to see him (or Viridi) in the next Smash.

Banjo-Kazooie Prediction: 32.4%

Nominations: Lucas x5
 

NeonBurrito

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Hades

Chance - 1%

Sakurai already got a ton of backlash for adding so much Kid Icarus stuff last game, so I really don't know if he'll bother again this time around, especially considering how Kid Icarus has had nothing since Smash 4 to now.

Even if he WERE going to be adding a new Kid Icarus character, he faces competition from other characters, such as Magnus, Medusa, and Viridi.

Want - 40%

I adore the guy; he was hilarious in Uprising. I most certainly wouldn't be against him in Smash, but he's not a character I'm exactly campaigning for. I think Kid Icarus is represented just fine in Smash now. When Kid Icarus Uprising gets a sequel (and it most certainly should get a sequel, for the record), then we can try again.

Nominations:
Travis Touchdown x2
Funky Kong x3
(normally I just nominate the characters of the post above me, but I'd really rather not waste days on veterans)
 

TheFritzle

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Hades Chance:
10%
With Kid Icarus being inactive for the past few years, I don't think we're going to get a new rep. The series has enough characters for how active the series is. If we were to get a new Kid Icarus game, I could see his chances going up a lot, but as it is right now, I don't see it.

Hades Want:
90%
Hades is such a great villain. We need more villains in Smash, and Hades is definitely one of the best choices. Not sure how much of a moveset potential he has, but character alone, he is amazing.

Banjo & Kazooie Prediction:
18.91%

Nominations:
Sylux x5
 

Nimbostratus

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Hades
Chance- 4%
Yeah, series has nothing new, and he has competition from both Medusa and Viridi even if KI did get a character.
Want- 60%
Unnecessary, but he's great, so I'll give him a break.

Also, really miss having Groose and Hades the Magnificent around on days like this.

Banjo & Kazooie Predictions- 12%

Nominations:
Ashley x5
 

CrusherMania1592

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Man I really gotta keep up with this place

Hades

Chances: 10%
Want: 55%


Prediction on Banjo: 9.8%

Nominations:

ROY IS OUR BOY x3
Zeraora
Gengar
 

zipzapsparkle

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Hades

Chance 5%
Want 25%

A Kid Icarus newcomer seems unlikely and if there was one Viridi would probably be first although it should be him first tbh. He’s likable but I don’t necessarily want him.

x2 Barbara Bat
x2 Cranky
x1 Kamek
 

Quetzal77

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Chance: 5%
I don't see a KI newcomer happening with the series back in the dark. Unless there's a port of Uprising coming, but even then, I'm not convinced Hades is that likely.

Want: 15%
I would prefer Medusa, having not played Uprising, but from what I know of Hades he seems like he could be fun, and more villains is always a good thing.

Banjo Kazooie: 11.78%
Nominations: Pyra/Mythra (without Rex) x3, Neku x2
 

CaptainAmerica

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Hades

Chance: 1%
Want: 0%

Ugh, more Kid Icarus. I was biased against the series in Brawl since it seemed like it was trying to leech off of Link's popularity, and then Sm4sh ended up being a glorified Kid Icarus game. No thanks.

Yes, we need more villains. But there are plenty of major villains in series that have been going for a while *coughRidleyandK.Roolcough*, not one-offs from a series which lay dormant for almost 20 years.

Interesting in the last two days that we're getting similar arguments - "X deserves to be in to represent this game," coming from a franchise which has three games total, and therefore 'deserves' three reps. Didn't we also have a major issue when 'Zelda Newcomer' was up that all of the characters are one-offs, and therefore aren't worthy of getting in? Which is it?

I'm still salty about having to play Pit twice to unlock everything in Sm4sh since his literal palette swap was special enough to get a different Final Smash (and for bonus points, it again stole from the Zelda series). Two reps is more than enough for Kid Icarus going forward, and we don't need all the modes to end up as KI expies anyway.

Prediction for BK: 17.3%
Nom: Mewtwo x5
 

Cycrum

Smash Apprentice
Joined
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Messages
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Hades

Chance: 5%
Everything that I could say about him and his chances has already been mentioned.

Want: 75%
Just seeing a few glimpses of his personality have me sold on wanting him, although he isn't that high on the list because I have not played Kid Icarus Uprising yet (even though I have it) and because I can think of plenty of other characters I'd want more.

Predictions:
Banjo & Kazooie: 19.21%

Nominations:

Steve (Minecraft) x4
Spyro x1
 
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slambros

Smash Ace
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Messages
784
Hades

Chance: 2%
Want: 0%

Nominations:
Arle Nadja x1
Geno x1
Lana x1
Micaiah x1
Tethu x1
 

Mighty Moose

Smash Cadet
Joined
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Messages
52
Hades

Chance: 5%

No reason to add more KI characters beyond Sakurai bias (he couldn't, could he?), and there's at least a couple other names vying for attention there too

Want: 5%
Never played the game so I really can't bring myself to care about the character, I'll give him the default how much I want another KI rep in the game %

Nominating Ganon x5
 

GoodGrief741

Smash Legend
Joined
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Messages
10,169
Hades

Chance: 24%

Don’t know if Kid Icarus’ roll on characters is over, and if someone gets in it might be Viridi, but I’m feeling sorta good about his chances.

Want: 46%

Cause he’s hilarious

Banjo-Kazooie: 20%

Aiming high due to the combination of heavy fan support and the fact that Microsoft seems way too into the idea of them getting in.

Noms
Mike Jones x5

Nomination update:

Geno x253
Ashley (WarioWare) x253
Micaiah x241
Isabelle x240
Lana (Hyrule Warriors) x236
Blue Bowser x232
Tethu (EverOasis) x228

Over 200:

Arle Nadje (Puyo Puyo) x223
Veteran: Lucas x207


199-150

Concept: veteran character artworks recycled from Smash 3DS/Wii U x186
Veteran: Mewtwo x185
Agumon x175
Mike Jones (StarTropics) x170
Ganon x166
Black Shadow x162
Bomberman x155
Music: Final Destination (Ver. 2) x150

149-100


Impa x147
Lycanroc x146
Urban Champion x145
Veteran: Greninja x141
Travis Touchdown x135
Funky Kong x134
Dark Samus x134
Sans (Undertale) x133
Kamek x131
Qbby (BoxBoy!) x129
Concept: Decloned Dark Pit x126
Pyra/Mythra (without Rex) x121
Spyro x115
Snip & Clip (Snipperclips) x111
Tsubasa Oribe (Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE) x100
Concept: Octopath Traveller Character x100

99-75

Lip (Panel de Pon) x96
Ryu Hayabusa x95
Simon Belmont x95
Concept: Marth and Roy given their English VAs x95
Masked Link x94
Azura (Fire Emblem) x91
Mipha x90
Neku Sakuraba (The World Ends with You) x88
Concept: Ken Masters alt Costume for Ryu x86
Linkle x85
Concept: Skyrim representation x85
Octoling x85
Concept: Decloned Ganondorf x83
Excitebiker x82

2B (Nier: Automata) x78
Sylux x76

74-50

Fjorm (Fire Emblem) x72
Cranky Kong x71
Labo related character x68
Gengar x62
Fawful (Mario & Luigi) x61
Klonoa x60
Tetra (The Legend of Zelda) x60
Parabo and Satebo x59
Wonder Red (The Wonderful 101) x56
Concept: Fire Emblem Spear User x55
Zeraora (Pokémon) x54
Thwomp x53
Lara Croft x50
Katrielle Layton x50

49-30:

Veteran: Roy x48
Papyrus (Undertale) x45
Veronica (Fire Emblem) x44
Lloyd Irving x42
Concept: Fire Emblem Heroes Summoner x40
Concept: Wars character x39
Concept: Mother Newcomer x35
Callie and Marie (Splatoon) x35
Susie (Kirby) x35
Doshin the Giant x32
Veteran: Bayonetta x32
Balloon Fighter x31
Django (Boktai) x30
Mimikyu x30

29-15

Snorlax x29
Dragonite x27
Ray (Custom Robo) x27
Gooey (Kirby) x27
Barbara The Bat x27
Veteran: Dr. Mario x27
Hector (Fire Emblem) x 26
Medusa (Kid Icarus) x 26
Leo (FE Fates) x26
Returning game mode: Smash Run x26
Takumi (Fire Emblem) x25
Sophitia (Soulcalibur) x25
Double Day: Sheriff / Diskun x25
Prince Fluff (Kirby) x25
Tiki (Fire Emblem) x25
Concept: Style Savvy Character x25
Nia and Dromarch (Xenoblade) x24
Sakura Shinguji x23
Concept: Indie Character x 22
Sable Prince x22
Tingle x21
Scizor x 21
Veteran: Palutena x 21
9-Volt x21
Stage: New Donk City x21
Endou Mamaru x21
Arcade Bunny x 20
Concept: Historical Nintendo character (Similar to Game and Watch or R.O.B.) x20
Viridi x20
Primarina x20
Pokemon Trainer (Gen 2) x20
Concept: Masked Dedede Final Smash x20
Toon Zelda x19
Tom Nook x18
Tails x18
Concept: Canon Bowser/DK/Diddy voice clips x18
Mach Rider x17
Poipole (Pokemon) x17
Rick/Coo/Kine (Kirby) x16
Slippy Toad x15

14 and less:

Starfy x14
Veteran: Robin x 14
Petey Piranha x13
Concept: Custom Moves Return x12
Mallo (Pushmo) x 12
Concept: Sonic Mania Stage x12
Concept: Capcom Character x12
Ghirahim x12
Veteran: Cloud x11
Toad x11
Veteran: Dark Pit x11
Samurai Goroh x10
Stanley the Bugman (Donkey Kong) x10
Donkey Kong Jr. x10
Concept: Custom Final Smashes x10
Quote x10
Concept: Core Crystal Item (XC2) x10
Concept: F-Zero Newcomer x9
Veteran: Pac-Man x9
Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) x9
Dragonborn x9
Veteran: Sonic x 7
Incineroar x7
Tora and Poppi x7
Zangoose (Pokemon) x6
Black Mage (Final Fantasy) x6
Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight) x6
Kozukata Yori (Fatal Frame) x5
Concept: Decloned Lucina x5
Galacta Knight (Kirby) x5
Morag and Brighid (Xenoblade) x5
Master Chief x 5
Ninten (Mother) x 5
Concept: Mega Man 11 stage x5
Concept: Return of transformation characters x5
Concept - Melee/Brawl style Classic mode x5
Ayane x5
Alm (Fire Emblem) x 5
Concept: Metroid: Samus Returns Stage x5
Asuka x5
Abraham Lincoln (Codename STEAM) x5
Masked Man (Mother 3) x5
Ayumi Tachibana x5
Itsuki Aoi x5
Concept: Shin Megami Tensei Protagonist x5
Monita (NintendoLand) x5
Cross/Rook/Avatar (Xenoblade Chronicles X) x5
Toon Link x5
Yooka & Laylee x5
Caeda x5
Concept: Charizard Remerged with Pokemon Trainer+complete movesets x5
King Hippo x5
Glass Joe x5
Master Hand x5
Solaire (Dark Souls) x5
Reinhardt (Fire Emblem) x5
Dr. Kawashima x5
Hyness (Kirby Star Allies) x4
Rick the Hamster x4
Shadow the Hedgehog x4
Mii Fighters x 4
KOS-MOS x4
King Boo x4
Geese Howard (Fatal Fury/ King of Fighters) x3
Mario RPG representation (Including Paper Mario and M&L) x3
Poochy (Yoshi series) x3
Veteran: Corrin x 3
Porky Minch x3
Veteran: Wii Fit Trainer x3
Specter Knight x3
Saki x3
Weavile x3
Slime (Dragon Quest) x3
[Rerate] Isaac (Golden Sun) x2
Vaati x2
Nightmare (SoulCalibur) x2
Joker (Persona 5) x2
Concept: The Sims character x2
Toadette x2
Jack Frost (Shin Megami Tensei) x2
Concept: Snipperclips representation x2
Jeanne (Bayonetta) x2
Garon x1
Rosalina & Luma x1
Bowser Jr. x1
Knuckles the Echidna x1
New Mii Fighter types (concept) x 1
Harry (Teleroboxer) x 1
Sheik x1
Undertale Representation x1
Revali x1
Daruk x1
Urbosa x1
Jack (Harvest Moon) x1
Sol Badguy x1
Kyo Kusanagi x1
Ryoma (FE Fates) x1
Falco x1
Vivian (Paper Mario) x1
Mallow (SMRPG) x1
Concept: Playable Master/Crazy Hand x1
Blastoise x1
Alph x1
Marshal (Rhythm Heaven) x1
Tapu Koko x1
Hyper Light Drifter x1
Dark Falz x1
Silvally x1
Hat Kid (A Hat in Time) x1
Captain Syrup x1
Concept: Tetris Stage or Assist Trophy x1
Concept: Ms.Pac Man alt costume for Pac Man x1
Concept: Entire roster revealed at E3 x1
Stage: Sheikah Shrine x1
Stage: Ultra Space x1
Stage: Miitopia Stage x1
Stage: Happy Home Designer x1

Changes:

Isabelle not only cracks into top 7, she sits 4th within striking distance of 3rd place Micaiah.
The top 7 switched around a lot. Lana got some late noms to propel her ahead of Blue Bowser for the day.
Arle Nadja is outside the top 7.
Lucas breaks 200 noms.
Music: FD (Ver 2.) breaks over 150 noms.
Octopath Traveller breaks 100 noms.
Sylux is now over 75 noms.
Wonder Red, Lara Croft, and Katrielle Layton break 50 noms.
Django and Mimikyu break 30 noms.
Canon Bowser/DK/Diddy voice clips, Rick/Coo/Kine, and Slippy are no longer under 15 noms.
No new additions, but some lower ones got some love.
I’m sorry, but could you have accidentally deleted Bubbles from Clu Clu Land? I remember nominating her a few days ago, but she seems to be missing from the list now.
 
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Roberk

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Messages
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Chance: 1%
Unless there's some surprise announcement of a Kid Icarus: Uprising port or sequel to bring it back to relevance, I seriously doubt Hades' chances. Kid Icarus had its time in 4, but with nothing new, I doubt we'd get a newcomer from the franchise at all. The only one that seems realistically possible is Virirdi due to how much exposure she has: a 3ds stage, appearances in Palutena's Guidance, and a Mii Swordfighter costume. Even then she seems quite unlikely, so I doubt Hades who has a lot less going for him has any sort of chance.
Want: 5%
He could be cool, but I really don't want more KI content. I remember playing SSE and playing the first real level had me thinking "who's Pit? What's Skyworld?" because the games were 20 years old with no follow up at that point. I'm kind of fine with KI in Smash 4 because of the Uprising comeback and Sakurai directing the game, but now that time is over. IMO: Kid Icarus hasn't really proven itself as a Smash-worthy franchise yet. It only has 3 games, the gap between the 2nd and 3rd leaving the series decades dormant. It's kind of like adding a new Earthbound character. The series' have already established themselves in Smash with enough representative content so I'd like to see growth from the series' themselves before they grow in Smash.

Banjo-Kazooie prediction: 15%

Noms: Marth and Roy get English voice actors x5.
 

Wyoming

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Hades

Chance: 24%

Don’t know if Kid Icarus’ roll on characters is over, and if someone gets in it might be Viridi, but I’m feeling sorta good about his chances.

Want: 46%

Cause he’s hilarious

Banjo-Kazooie: 20%

Aiming high due to the combination of heavy fan support and the fact that Microsoft seems way too into the idea of them getting in.

Noms
Mike Jones x5



I’m sorry, but could you have accidentally deleted Bubbles from Clu Clu Land? I remember nominating her a few days ago, but she seems to be missing from the list now.
Ah, correct. It had one nomination turned to six. I probably accidentally deleted him when moving Rick/Koo/Cine upwards.
 

Parallel_Falchion

Smash Lord
Joined
Jul 14, 2014
Messages
1,336
Hades
Chance: 7%
Without a new game on the horizon, this seems exceedingly unlikely.

Want: 8%
I've played Uprising, but I was not very fond of either the game or Hades.
 
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