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1. Starting on 5/21, rule 2 of the OP will be abridged. Changes are in bold

-You're allowed to debate but please no flame wars. Also please refrain from non explanations, as a spirit of debate is encouraged. Posts lacking at least 2 sentences of reasoning will be invalid and your nominations will be ignored. Abstaining from a rating will not require reasoning, though it would be appreciated.

While I do like the high participation this thread gets, I do not like when people just post scores without really any argument to them. As such, starting tomorrow, if your post does not make this guideline, your nominations and score will be ignored. By ignoring nominations as well, I feel that this does apply more pressure. Note that this will not affect abstaining from a rating.
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Funky Kong

Chance: 30%

Want: 95%

Funky Kong is a generally popular DK character and was included as a character in Mario Kart Wii, and IMO if there are going to be new clones and Semi-Clones, Funky Kong is a top runner.

And I generally like him despite the hatred of him in Mario Kart.

KOS-MOS Prediction: 8.77%

Nominate Lloyd Irving x5
 
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Funky Kong

Chance: 10%
If we were to get in, he would be a DK clone. The Tropical Freeze port is too new for anything from that to be incorporated into his moveset

Want: 50%
he's a pretty funky guy, and I wouldn't mind seeing him. A clone I wouldn't mind honestly.

Nominations
2B x5
 
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Funky Kong

Chance: 10%
I feel like K. Rool and Dixie would be higher priorities.

Want: 100%
He'd be cool.

Nominations:
Excitebiker x5

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Gnarly Monkey

Chances-5%. The TF port was far too late to influence him getting in. He could be a clone, but I don't think Sakurai would do that, as it would be a disservice to his character

Want-15% (30% if unique, 0 as clone). I don't think he'd be a good clone. Let's compare Funky and Galacta Knight. Funky has a surfboard, items, etc. He could get in as a unique character. Galacta, However, exists only as Meta Knight's foe, he's prefect for a clone role. Indifferent about unique

Nominations: Kamek x5
 

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Funky Kong



Chance: 45%

Not the first DKC newcomer everyone has in mind, but he's a low effort addition, given he plays quite similar to DK in Tropical Freeze Switch. He could be a late clone addition tho, and he's clearly popular to boot. The whole idea of Funky Kong being recent might just push the idea.

Want: 100%

Too cool not to include. Must have.
 

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Concept: Decloned Dark Pit x253
Sylux x247
Lip x247
Urban Champion x245
Dark Samus x245
Travis Touchdown x244
Mipha x243


Over 200:

Agumon x241
Music: Final Destination (Ver. 2) x235
Pyra/Mythra x227
Excitebiker x223
Masked Link x220
Concept: Skyrim representation x205
Cranky Kong x205
Gengar x200

199-150

Concept: Fire Emblem Heroes Summoner x195
Kamek x193
Wonder Red x192
Parabo & Satebo x174
Concept: Decloned Ganondorf x169
Linkle x160
Lloyd Irving x160
Steve x155
Papyrus x153
Tingle x153
Concept: Octopath Traveller Character x150

149-100

Snip & Clip (Snipperclips) x145
Neku Sakuraba x144
Sakura Shinguji x143
Ryu Hayabusa x140
Concept: Masked Dedede Final Smash x140
Sable Prince x138
Thwomp x130
Lara Croft x128
Tetra x127
Katrielle Layton x120
Scorpion x118
Tsubasa Oribe x115
Fawful x111
Octoling x110
Django x110
Slippy Toad x110

99-75

Concept: Canon Bowser/DK/Diddy voice clips x99
Barbara x95
2B x91
DeMille x88
Concept: Ken Masters alt Costume for Ryu x86
Susie x86
Veteran: Corrin x86
Labo-related character x85
Primarina x85
Concept: Fire Emblem Spear User x83
Ray x78
Smash Run x77
Balloon Fighter x77
Fjorm x75
Klonoa x75
Leon Kennedy x75

74-50

Veronica x73
Stage: New Donk City x70
Pokemon Trainer (Gen 2) x69
Arcade Bunny x65
Starfy x64
Zeraora (Pokémon) x63
[Rerate] King K. Rool x60
Concept: Monster Hunter character x60
Gooey x59
Dragonite x57
Tails x55
Fire Emblem Switch Protagonist x55
Concept: Pikmin newcomer x55
Tora & Poppi x52
Veteran: Roy x51
Veteran: Dr. Mario x51


49-30:

Toon Zelda x49
Rick/Coo/Kine x45
Concept: Wars character x43
Louie x40
Slime x40
Eevee x40
Breidablik Item x37
Concept: Mother Newcomer x35
Callie and Marie (Splatoon) x35
Nia and Dromarch (Xenoblade) x34
Viridi x33
Doshin the Giant x32
Veteran: Bayonetta x32
9-Volt x31
Concept: Transformation characters x30
Concept: Female Announcer x30
[Rerate] Rex & Pyra x30
Snorlax x29
Leo (FE Fates) x28
Takumi (Fire Emblem) x28
Concept: Indie Character x28
Mach Rider x28
Hector (Fire Emblem) x 26
Medusa (Kid Icarus) x 26
Ghirahim x26
Tiki x26
Endou Mamoru x26
Sophitia (Soulcalibur) x25
Double Day: Sheriff / Diskun x25
Prince Fluff (Kirby) x25
Concept: Style Savvy Character x25
Ayumi Tachibana x25
T-Rex x25
Nikki x25
Meowth x25

24 and less:

Solaire x23
Neptune x20
Concept: No Mega Evolutions x19
Yu Narakumi x17
Concept: Battlefield Stages x10
Joker x10
Concept: Multiple Voice Acting Options x10
Concept: Boss Battles x10
Ninten x7
Black Mage x6
Alex Kidd x5
[Rerate] Daisy x5
Shadow x5
Lark x5
Saber x5
Orbulon x5
Zangoose x5
Kumatora x5
Concept: Pac Man World-based Moveset x5
Blastoise x5
Ashley Miziku Robbins x5
Mushashi x5
Concept: 16-Player Smash x5
Rowlet x5
Concept: DLC Announcers x5
Masked Man x3
[Rerate] Squirtle x2
Stage: Metal Caverns x2

Changes:

Decloned Dark Pit retakes the lead!
Lip went all the way from 8th to 3rd, jointly tied on points with 2nd place Sylux
Dark Samus went from 7th to 5th, overtaking Travis Touchdown, Mipha, and Agumon. The latter dropping out of the top 7 again.
Cranky Kong breaks 200 noms
Steve, Tingle, and Papyrus break 150 noms
Ray, Balloon Fighter, Smash Run, and Leon Kennedy break 75 noms
Nikki and Meowth break 25 noms
New additions: A concept about receiving DLC Announcers, and Rowlet (both x5)
Ignored addition: Arlo (Muppet) x1 - a quick google search leaves me confused. If this is a gaming character in reality I'll add it later. But I doubt it....
 

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Concept: Decloned Dark Pit x253
Sylux x247
Lip x247
Urban Champion x245
Dark Samus x245
Travis Touchdown x244
Mipha x243


Over 200:

Agumon x241
Music: Final Destination (Ver. 2) x235
Pyra/Mythra x227
Excitebiker x223
Masked Link x220
Concept: Skyrim representation x205
Cranky Kong x205
Gengar x200

199-150

Concept: Fire Emblem Heroes Summoner x195
Kamek x193
Wonder Red x192
Parabo & Satebo x174
Concept: Decloned Ganondorf x169
Linkle x160
Lloyd Irving x160
Steve x155
Papyrus x153
Tingle x153
Concept: Octopath Traveller Character x150

149-100

Snip & Clip (Snipperclips) x145
Neku Sakuraba x144
Sakura Shinguji x143
Ryu Hayabusa x140
Concept: Masked Dedede Final Smash x140
Sable Prince x138
Thwomp x130
Lara Croft x128
Tetra x127
Katrielle Layton x120
Scorpion x118
Tsubasa Oribe x115
Fawful x111
Octoling x110
Django x110
Slippy Toad x110

99-75

Concept: Canon Bowser/DK/Diddy voice clips x99
Barbara x95
2B x91
DeMille x88
Concept: Ken Masters alt Costume for Ryu x86
Susie x86
Veteran: Corrin x86
Labo-related character x85
Primarina x85
Concept: Fire Emblem Spear User x83
Ray x78
Smash Run x77
Balloon Fighter x77
Fjorm x75
Klonoa x75
Leon Kennedy x75

74-50

Veronica x73
Stage: New Donk City x70
Pokemon Trainer (Gen 2) x69
Arcade Bunny x65
Starfy x64
Zeraora (Pokémon) x63
[Rerate] King K. Rool x60
Concept: Monster Hunter character x60
Gooey x59
Dragonite x57
Tails x55
Fire Emblem Switch Protagonist x55
Concept: Pikmin newcomer x55
Tora & Poppi x52
Veteran: Roy x51
Veteran: Dr. Mario x51


49-30:

Toon Zelda x49
Rick/Coo/Kine x45
Concept: Wars character x43
Louie x40
Slime x40
Eevee x40
Breidablik Item x37
Concept: Mother Newcomer x35
Callie and Marie (Splatoon) x35
Nia and Dromarch (Xenoblade) x34
Viridi x33
Doshin the Giant x32
Veteran: Bayonetta x32
9-Volt x31
Concept: Transformation characters x30
Concept: Female Announcer x30
[Rerate] Rex & Pyra x30
Snorlax x29
Leo (FE Fates) x28
Takumi (Fire Emblem) x28
Concept: Indie Character x28
Mach Rider x28
Hector (Fire Emblem) x 26
Medusa (Kid Icarus) x 26
Ghirahim x26
Tiki x26
Endou Mamoru x26
Sophitia (Soulcalibur) x25
Double Day: Sheriff / Diskun x25
Prince Fluff (Kirby) x25
Concept: Style Savvy Character x25
Ayumi Tachibana x25
T-Rex x25
Nikki x25
Meowth x25

24 and less:

Solaire x23
Neptune x20
Concept: No Mega Evolutions x19
Yu Narakumi x17
Concept: Battlefield Stages x10
Joker x10
Concept: Multiple Voice Acting Options x10
Concept: Boss Battles x10
Ninten x7
Black Mage x6
Alex Kidd x5
[Rerate] Daisy x5
Shadow x5
Lark x5
Saber x5
Orbulon x5
Zangoose x5
Kumatora x5
Concept: Pac Man World-based Moveset x5
Blastoise x5
Ashley Miziku Robbins x5
Mushashi x5
Concept: 16-Player Smash x5
Rowlet x5
Concept: DLC Announcers x5
Masked Man x3
[Rerate] Squirtle x2
Stage: Metal Caverns x2

Changes:

Decloned Dark Pit retakes the lead!
Lip went all the way from 8th to 3rd, jointly tied on points with 2nd place Sylux
Dark Samus went from 7th to 5th, overtaking Travis Touchdown, Mipha, and Agumon. The latter dropping out of the top 7 again.
Cranky Kong breaks 200 noms
Steve, Tingle, and Papyrus break 150 noms
Ray, Balloon Fighter, Smash Run, and Leon Kennedy break 75 noms
Nikki and Meowth break 25 noms
New additions: A concept about receiving DLC Announcers, and Rowlet (both x5)
Ignored addition: Arlo (Muppet) x1 - a quick google search leaves me confused. If this is a gaming character in reality I'll add it later. But I doubt it....
Agumon have being jumping between the Top 7 and the three places below since the last 4? weeks... Poor guy.
 
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Funky Kong
Chances: 5%
Want: 5%

I see no reason for this to happen let alone before dixie, k rool, and even cranky.

Nomination: Linkle X5
 
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Chance: 20%
If Funky mode was his only claim to fame then yes his chance would be 0; however, he appears as an NPC in almost every DK game. I wouldn't be surprised if he has more appearances than Dixie and K Rool with how often this guy pops up. His roles in the games are minor in comparison to the other 2 but if Sakurai doesn't want to use them I wouldn't be too surprised to see Funky. That being said in a series with multiple playable characters it's not likely the next character would be a minor NPC.

Want: 0%
Funky a cool character but I have no desire to see him in Smash as anything other than a trophy. If he happens I won't be broken up about it but I certainly wouldn't be jumping with joy either.

noms: Ray x5
 
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Cranky is a main character in Jungle Climber/King of Swing while Funky is a background character in it for 5 seconds.
Cranky is in Returns, Funky isn't.
Cranky is in TF Wii U as playable while Funky is a shopkeeper.
Cranky is arcade DK.
Cranky was much more popular before some random meme mode that is irrelevant to Smash's development cycle based off timing and being overpowered in a Mario spin off.
That's to say nothing of K. Rool and Dixie.

Funky chance 5%
Funky want 0%

Nominate Cranky Kong x5
 
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Ha! I forgot how overpowered the Flame Runner was. I was really deep into the Mario Kart Wii competitive scene (managed to make it to 9.6k VR when the limit was 9.99k but the hackers made it impossible to fully advance) and you would see Funkys and Daisys all over the place. I used Rosalina on the Flame Runner and loved the challenge. Item management in MKWii could be the key to a win or lose at times.

Funky is actually popular in Japan, which is something I did not consider. I believe he scored highly in some poll they had over there about Donkey Kong characters. I think that may increase his chances a bit. Gonna go from 3% to 10% fully edited on my original post.
 
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Funky Kong

Chance: 9%
Yeesh. Strictly speaking, he has modern exposure and an inexplicable persistence compared to most other side characters, and he's also been around since the first Donkey Kong Country. But Donkey Kong gets few enough characters as it is, with a couple of choice selections already ahead of him in the line.

Want: 2%
I'm no fan of the 90's cool kid aesthetic, spice that it is to the flavor of the games. And heads will roll if this Kong gets in before other, more passionately-supported candidates do. This isn't even going over the moveset he'll get, which, knowing how it usually goes, would probably be a DK clone with different specials.


Prediction:
KOS-MOS - 4.5%

Nominations:
Papyrus x5
 
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Funky Kong:

A surfboading gorilla. I still dont know how he got in Mario Kart Wii.

Chance: 20%

I guess one could say that Funky Kong could be a sort of clone for Donkey Kong (even though there are problems with that) but clones are EXTREMELY unpredictable, and are decided last minute. So taking the clone character out of the equation and Funky doesn’t really have a shot. He was added in DKTF too late for Sakurai to consider, and even then characters like Dixie and King K. Rool are more prominent and wanted than Funky Kong. So I don’t really think he has a shot.

Want: 50%

I would rather have King K. Rool and Dixie get added before Funky Kong but at least his surfboard could lead well into an interesting moveset.
 

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Funky Kong

Chance: 10%
At this moment, I see Funky Kong getting in more as an Assist Trophy than as a playable character. Turning him into a semiclone of Donkey Kong could happen, but that wouldn't do Funky justice. I don't own the Switch port of Tropical Freeze, but from what I've seen in the NEW FUNKY MODE, something could be done with the surfboard. Maybe not his entire moveset, but something of a starting point.

Want: 50%
I am not in favor nor against Funky. He'll get in as a plain old trophy no matter what. But, I'd be perfectly fine if Funky was given the Assist Trophy treatment.

Nominations
Rowlet x5
 
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Funky Kong
Chances: 5%
He's had a surge of popularity recently but I think it's a tad late to help him out. Without the surge of popularity he's still a decently popular and important character, which on it's own is great, but he's one that has to compete with Nintendo All-Stars like Dixie, King K. Rool and Cranky, so uh, good luck with that.
Want: 35%
I'd have no problems with Funky Kong. While I'm not rooting for him I love the character's personality, he'd be a welcome addition for sure.

Nominations: Gooey x 5
Predictions: KOS-MOS 6%
 

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Funky Kong

Chance: 41%

- New Smash Bros. Game with Funky Mode! ...he’s a top contender. Sure, Dixie and a certain reptilian king are more requested but none of them have same charm as Funky Kong. The Tropical Freeze port is all about him; he’s the poster boy for it.

Want: 100%

- I’d love to play as him in a Smash game. He’s got the moves and style.

Prediction

KOS-MOS: 7.2%

Nomination

Neptune (Neptunia Series) x5
 
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Funky Kong

Chance 15%: His time isn't likely to be now. He has too much competition.

Want 35%: There are more deserving characters to be added.

Nominations:
Masked Link 2x
Pokemon Trainer (Gen 2) 2x
No Mega Evolutions 1x
 

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Funky Kong
10% Chance

In terms of last minute clones, he is up there. I could see him working of DK.

50% Want

Currently playing through TF on Switch. The dude is alright.

Nominating Excitebiker x 5

DAY OVER CALCS INCOMING
 

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Funky Kong
13.25% Chance
46.37% Want

People were torn. On one hand this is a nice meme and we do want new DK content. On the other hand is this the DK content we want? Seen as unlikely, but not entirely unwelcome.

@Sid-cada gets 5 extra noms today for Funky Kong.

Today we got KOS-MOS, the mascot and one of the main characters of Xenosaga. Xenosaga is owned by Namco Bandai and was created by Monolith Soft. Will her frequent crossover appearances, her XC2 cameo, and the possible Xenosaga remaster help her? Also please predict the scores for Azura from Fire Emblem tomorrow.

Also new rule is in place.
 
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KOS-MOS
Chance 8%
While her chance is there, it's quite low. As third party who is overall obscure I don't think it will happen.
Want: 1%
There are many characters I'd rather over her. I'm not fond of the idea of letting just any third party character in Smash.

Prediction Azure 2%

Nominate Lara croft
 

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Kos-Mos

Chance 15%
Want 50%

If Namco got a second character she’d sort of makes sense because she’d blend right in with Shulk. She’s cool but I don’t think she’s too likely because third parties usually go with their bigger names.

x5 Arcade Bunny
 
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KOS MOS

Chance: 0.5%

Having a cameo in Xenoblade2 is the only thing she has going for her. And I don't even know if the timing was on her side for that.

Compared to the other third-party characters she's just way too much of a "literally who."
She carries no game history and has barely any support. It would make no sense to include her amongst the likes of Mario, Pikachu, Sonic or Pacman.

Want: 0%

I barely know anything of this character, besides that she's a rare blade in Xenoblade chronicles 2, which is on my list of games I'll never play.

Predictions for more Fire emblem: 3.82%

Nominations: Leon Kennedy x5
 
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KOS-MOS

Chance: 1%
What does she have going for her? A cameo in Xenoblade 2? Yeah not happening.

Want: 1%
Not much to say about her, there’s pretty much nothing that would make me want her in, but I’ll give her more that 0 because I wouldn’t hate her.

Azura prediction: will her popularity with the third wave FE fanbase overcome her lateness to the game, the larger popularity of other characters and the butthurt hatred of all potential FE characters on this site? This one is really hard to pin but I really want those extra noms so I’ll go with 8%

Nominations: Urban ChampX5
 

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Edit: Late on this one. Oops.



Funky Kong

Chance 5%: The TF port should be irrelevant to Smash 5's development given the timing, he's one of the more obscure DK characters outside of that mode. He's also jostling for the DK slot with K. Rool and Dixie. I've always thought K. Rool alone or K. Rool and Dixie would get in at the same time, I don't see Funky getting in at all.

The only way it'll happen is as a clone of DK. For multiple reasons that's awkward when you consider DK's moveset.

Want 0%: I actively don't want him in over K. Rool and his moveset would revolve around obscure props to work. The new TF easy mode is a really dumb addition to that game. I don't want Dixie but there's far stronger arguments for why she might be a good newcomer.
 
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Kos Mos Chance 7%: I don't see why the Namco character wouldn't be Heihachi or some other Tekken character. If you wanna stretch, you could say Nightmare or Ivy from Soul Calibur. I'm not gonna say it's zero, but it'd be a very weird choice.

Kos-Mos Want 2.5%: She directly opposes series I am interested in with Tekken and Soul Calibur. I know very little about the character and there's nothing wrong with her, so I'll give her a little higher than zero. She seems okay enough.

Nominate Cranky Kong x5
 
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KOS-MOS

Chance: 4%
Remember when people claimed Henry Fleming wouldn't get in due to his name's literature roots? Well KOS-MOS is a reimagining of a religious figure, most notably Jesus Christ's good friend Mary Magdalene.

This **** is bananas.

However she is owned by Namco Bandai, has some popularity and fits into the Xenoblade series so I GUESS anything is possible.

Want: 50%
Never played the game but the fact KOS-MOS is the partner of JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF in the game makes my mind boggle.


That we might get Christ as a trophy in Smash Bros. is such a bizarre thought.

KOS-MOS herself is alright I guess, but I'm so stuck on her being a fictional teenage anime android prototype vessel for Mary Magdalene I can't really envision her in game properly.

Azure Prediction: 6%
Once seen as one of the more likely characters from Fates, she's taken a massive tumble in popularity.

Nomination: Meowth X 5
 
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Kos-Mos
Chance - 3%
3rd parties are always going to face a harder time getting in, and I feel there are bigger names out there than her for sure. I also don't think her cross over with Xenoblade is that important as we'd likely actually get a Xenoblade character if Sakurai is looking at that series and not jump to the guest.
Want - 0%
I have little to no interest in her from a design stand point. You could place her into the legion of the anime waifu and likely have a hard time spotting her with her generic build and impractical revealing outfit. I'd like to keep 3rd parties more reserved for huge names and icons. I feel she fails that as well, otherwise I'd give her some points for possible move sets.

Nominations - 5x Pikmin Newcomer
 
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KOS-MOS

Chance: 15%
Namco is most likely working on Smash Switch. It's not far-fetched to believe we'll get another Namco character on the roster in exchange for their help during development. After all, Capcom and SEGA got two characters, so why wouldn't Namco ask for one more, especially if they're working on the game? And while Namco has other choices for a potential Smash newcomer, KOS-MOS is one of their premier choices for crossovers. She has plenty of cameos and crossover appearances in games Namco is involved in, and has strong ties to Nintendo through Monolith and the Xeno games. It's worth mentioning that Namco might have plans for Xenosaga, as they recently trademarked Xenosaga 3's subtitle.

Does this add up to a Smash appearance? Probably not. But she definitely has a real chance at making it.

Want: 100%
She's one of my most wanted characters. I absolutely adore her in Xenosaga and Xenoblade 2, plus she'd be a pretty unique character with all of her different weapons.

Nominating Excitebiker x2, Tingle x3

Azura prediction: 1.3%
 
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Oh, I missed Funky Kong.
Oh, he got more than 10%.
Um
Anyway

KOS-MOS:
I know of her. Pretty sure she’s from both Xenoblade and a 3rd party series. Good for her

Chance & Want: abstain

Azura prediction: 5%
My girl is late, but apparently Funky can get a 13% lmaoo

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KOS-MOS

Chance: 1%

She has a recent appearance in XBC2 and some history in a niche RPG franchise. I don't think she's iconic enough to be considered.

Want: 0%

Lacks any interesting qualities. I don't have a history with this character.

Nominations:
Wonder Red ×3
Lip ×2
 
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CometX-ing

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Chances: 20%
She is pretty much the go to Namco crossover character, with games she appeared in consist of Namco X Capcom, the Project X Zone games, the Super Robot Wars OG Saga games, Tales of Hearts and Xenoblade 2 as well as a few cameos. The best reasoning for her getting in as a second Namco rep lie in Xenoblade since that is a none Namco owned game (though it is made by Monolith Soft) and also isn't a game series known for being a crossover series like Project X Zone and Super Robot Wars. Still, given how Namco was shafted for a second rep last game despite Namco being the ones actually working on the game doesn't give her much hope. And even then sadly Namco may even go with something from Tekken or SoulCaliber given how popular those are. Lloyd Irving or another Tales of character is also pretty likely give that the former got a costume.

Edit: bumped her by 10. It’s possible that Namco could think Ryu already fills the generic Karate man niche and that sword users are over saturated in Smash. Her chances are still low though.

Want: 30%
She's not my first pick for a Namco 2nd rep. Personally would rather have Klonoa, but even with his possible movie it's still a pipe dream. I'd be fine with her getting in, if anything would bug me it would be Heihachi or a SoulCaliber character.

Nominations:
Primarina x5
 
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