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[The Light Music Club]

Dixie Kong:
Chance: 15% - I just don't think she's needed. We already have enough females and we already have two kongs, which imo, is plenty. I don't know exactly what she would do, but I don't think she can do much for the roster. I'm predicting one more DK character, and with the lack of Villains, I'm going with King K. Plus, Lucina is special, I doubt there is a point in having a clone of a newer character in Diddy. The only other newcomer clone we have a chance at getting is from F-Zero, ONLY if Sakurai wants to move Ganondorf's move set.

Want: 2% - One of my least favorite female characters that has a chance right now.

Lucas:
Chance: 95% - I just don't see the point in removing him at all. Mother 3 is beloved in Japan to my knowledge, and I think people would be upset if they removed him.

Want: 70% - I hate cuts, but Lucas isn't my favorite character.

Predictions:
King K: 75% - With Gematsu's 2nd leak being false, people will start to give him some hope.
Mewtwo: 65% - Same as above, but people will still think Greninja, Jiggs, and Mewtwo can't all coexist.

 

[Burigu]

No mention of Pittoo at all. This game being developed by Japanese studio, I think Sakurai was trying to hint at him without revealing his name, and I could see that they made a mistake when translating the script of the trailer. So yeah even if this name theory holds merit, Dark Pit is not mentioned in name at all, so his chances still remain good.
I just wanted to clear things up to those who think him being referred by name outside of Japan's deconfirms him.

Althought you are right in that regard, the lack of intro when we already got 2 newcomers in one trailer is a bigger disadvantage. And the name theory is also acompanied with his NOT previously SHOWN partner (which is the most important of the 2). So it's not the name alone. It's is a combo of lots of factors.

But o well moving on into todays ratings

Dixie Kong:
Chance: 25% after gematsu dead, this is the hardest guess I have made since I for once don't have evidence in her favor or against her, so it's posible, but still if we are rating her on the claim of a Diddy clone, I will believe in Sakurai's words about Lucina being really lucky so I don't see tons for clones falling like candies from the sky. If she is original well my score is based on that I simply don't have any idea.
Want: 45% only if she is different enough from Diddy, she is a funny character, I accepted Lucina as full clone only because I like the character, good that want is actually about bias.

Lucas
Chance: 50% now that clones are definetely not skins he stands a solid chance.
Want: 50% he is an alright character but I am indifferent towards him.

@ Groose I will take your suggestion about Xenoblade, normally I wouldn't watch let's play of games I might play but at this point I need to know Shulk better, sorry I didn't reply before, I saw your post yesterday and forgot about replying you earlier today

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Dixie 90% Chance
50% want
Lucas 99.99% Chance
100% Want

I see Dixie as an easy clone, a la Lucina and Dark Pit. Here are clones I see as likely, to a degree.

Dark Pit (Pit)
Impa (Shiek)
Black Shadow (Takes most of Brawl Ganondorf's moveset, Captain Falcon)
Dixie Kong ( Diddy Kong)

And that's pretty much it. TBH I see that we will get some bonus clones to fill out the roster. I will probably give them a 50 % want due to not knowing degree of cloning and whatnot. (Black Shadow would get 100% due to SwordDorf)

Massive tangent is massive...

 

[BluePikmin11]

Althought you are right in that regard, the lack of intro when we already got 2 newcomers in one trailer is a bigger disadvantage. And the name theory is also acompanied with his NOT previously SHOWN partner (which is the most important of the 2). So it's not the name alone. It's is a combo of lots of factors.

But o well moving on into todays ratings

Dixie Kong:
Chance: 25% after gematsu dead, this is the hardest guess I have made since I for once don't have evidence in her favor or against her, so it's posible, but still if we are rating her on the claim of a Diddy clone, I will believe in Sakurai's words about Lucina being really lucky so I don't see tons for clones falling like candies from the sky. If she is original well my score is based on that I simply don't have any idea.
Want: 45% only if she is different enough from Diddy, she is a funny character, I accepted Lucina as full clone only because I like the character, good that want is actually about bias.

Lucas
Chance: 50% now that clones are definetely not skins he stands a solid chance.
Want: 50% he is an alright character but I am indifferent towards him.

@ Groose I will take your suggestion about Xenoblade, normally I wouldn't watch let's play of games I might play but at this point I need to know Shulk better, sorry I didn't reply before, I saw your post yesterday and forgot about replying you earlier today

Then Ridley and Palutena (Because of Pseudo-Palutena) are deconfirmed then.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

I don't see why people think Dixie would be a clone....she has her own unique attributes that differentiate her from Diddy Kong...
anyways...

Dixie Kong
Chance: 35%
I would make the chances higher, but I know how many people want King K Cruel, and having her in above him would be kinda...um...not good.
Want: 80%
I love the Donkey Kong games, and I loved her in the games she starred in. With that being said, she's not my favourite Kong.

 

[Starbound]

Dixie: 65% Chance / 90% Want

Dixie is a Nintendo All-Star, like it or not. Her history goes back into the 1990s, unlike most of the characters on the roster (). Nintendo Newcomers all seem to be from recent games.
: Pokemon X/Y
: Punch-Out Wii
: FE: Awakening
: Wii Sports et al
: KI: Uprising
: FE: Awakening
: Mario Galaxy
: AC: City Folk, AC: New Leaf
: Wii Fit et al

Surprisingly, there are very few titles left in this group. Off the top of my head, I can think of these:

Xenoblade Chronicles - Shulk
LoZ: Skyward Sword - Impa, Ghirahim
Kirby's Return to Dreamland - Bandanna Dee
DKC: Tropical Freeze - Dixie Kong
Rhythm Heaven Fever - Marshal

Really, I think the only thing that could stop her from being included is Tropical Freeze possibly being too new.

Lucas: 40% Chance / 50% Want
We know from pre-Brawl that Japanese only characters are difficult for Sakurai to put in. Mother 3 came out during Brawl's development which makes it possible that Sakurai wasn't aware that it would be a Japanese exclusive when deciding to include Lucas. Fast forward to 2014 and Lucas is the only character who is Japanese exclusive on the roster.

 

[Burigu]

Then Ridley and Palutena (Because of Pseudo-Palutena) are deconfirmed then.

Yes you are totally right because Palutena and Psedo Palutena are THE SAME PERSON and we clearly saw Ridley's face in the video obviously his shadow and a fraction of his tail are way more convincing than the face of Dark Pit

 

[BluePikmin11]

Yes you are totally right because Palutena and Psedo Palutena are THE SAME PERSON and we clearly saw Ridley's face in the video obviously his shadow and a fraction of his tail are way more convincing than the face of Dark Pit

That's still Ridley shown in gameplay even with just the tail appearing, no one can deny that it is Ridley whose on the Pyrosphere as a boss appearance, I don't think you have made your argument too well.
Unless you are implying Ridley is deconfirmed.
But this isn't the place to argue, so I will leave it at that.

 

[Hammer Man]

Dixie Kong
Chance: 81%

According to the fact that she is likely, Sakurai did say that he wanted more females and she was planned for Brawl's development so that's a plus.

Want: 90%

If there was a choice between Dixie or K.Rool, I would choose Dixie because she could be unique and a quirky character. Plus, I like her design and she's got more history to Nintendo.

Lucas
Chance: 99.5%

Brawl veteran that deserves to return, same with R.O.B.

Want: 100%

Do people really think that Lucas is getting cut, after Ike's comeback?

 

[Deleted member]

Well Roy... it looks like we found a new boy (and two women) to replace you.
Dixie Kong and Lucas have been added to the Directory.
If you have rated Dixie Kong and Lucas, check to see what you've said on their days!

When it comes to a Donkey Kong newcomer, I think that there is a 65% chance of it happening. When I give something above 70%, I fully expect it to happen. That is not the case with Donkey Kong. The credentials are there, but it's not as blatantly obvious as let's say all of the characters getting announced early on, having the director work on the game, or having a massive hit game that saved the franchise. Still, there are two popular choices here. I will elaborate tomorrow on King K. Rool's 40%, but for now...
Dixie Kong
Chance: 25%
Dixie Kong isn't as unique as her krocodile kompetitor, but she has popularity even still. Like King K. Rool, she is one of the last remaining Nintendo all-stars that have not been playable in Smash yet.
One thing that she has an edge over King K. Rool is Tropical Freeze. She wasn't announced when the game got released, but it's worth noting as she does have some resurgence. What she doesn't have over King K. Rool is popularity. Sure, she is a popularly requested character, but King K. Rool is definitely the more popular request and is within Japan's top 5.
The Forbidden 7 should not be overlooked too. We dunno what her role was supposed to be (except for maybe she was meant to be in a tag-team with Diddy Kong), but it shows that Sakurai took notice of her and considered her. Will she get considered again here?
Finally, and it's something that works in her favor, is the fact that she could easily be a completely original character or a semi-clone. If Lucina took almost no time at all for Sakurai, then I bet Sakurai could squeeze in some room for Dixie Kong and make her a cloned moveset just to add her to the roster.
Overall, the Lucina reveal helped her definitely.
Want: 100%
If I can't have King K. Rool, then I want Dixie Kong. I warmed up to her after Tropical Freeze and I mostly used her over Diddy Kong and Cranky Kong.

Lucas
Chance: 60%
The Gematsu leak is deemed fake, but he could easily still be in danger. Bar Snake, Squirtle, and Ivysaur, he is the Brawl veteran that is the most danger since he could easily get cut.
Between the battle of the Mother boys, Ness is definitely the more likely one since he is more iconic to the franchise, had his game released worldwide, and he is a three time veteran.
Want: 0%
I'll be sad over the loss of Mother 3 content, but I couldn't care if Lucas got cut. I'm glad if just Ness stayed.

King K. Rool Prediction: 49.82%
He was a top contender as our most overrated. I see that some might pursue to bring his score down.
Mewtwo Prediction: 74.56%
Meanwhile, Mewtwo was a top contender as our most underrated. I see that some might pursue to bring his score up.
EDIT:

@ Groose I will take your suggestion about Xenoblade, normally I wouldn't watch let's play of games I might play but at this point I need to know Shulk better, sorry I didn't reply before, I saw your post yesterday and forgot about replying you earlier today

Definitely watch Chuggaaconroy's LP of Xenoblade. It's pretty damn good and informative!

 

[Toxicroaker]

Today will be another fairly boring day, but whatever. I don't mind as long as that Mewtwo + King K Rool day has a pinch of AMAZINGNESS!... Oh, I meant, as long as it is fairly okay...

Dixie Kong: 40% I see her as pretty likely considering newcomer clones are confirmed to be back.
Want: 0% I want King K. Rool in so bad.

Lucas: 70% Most likely will be back in.
Want: 100% I want mah Lucas back.

Mewtwo: 88.63%
King K. Drool: 64.31%

 

[jaytalks]

You thought the Attack of the Clones was over? Well, that's a matter of perspective; some will consider today's characters semi-clones or potential clones while others consider them unique characters. First up today is Dixie Kong. She needs no introduction, but I'll give you a quick (and not-so-biased) one anyway--she was Diddy's sidekick in the greatest 2D platformed ever made before rising to the role of the main character in the final installment of Rare's DKC trilogy. She disappeared from the franchise briefly, but has resurfaced as a sidekick in the newest installment of the series. The other character we're rating is Lucas, who was the main character in Mother 3 and debatably in the Subspace Emissary as well. Please rate Lucas and Dixie in chance and want.
​

Dixie Kong
Chance: 55%
Her chances remain unaffected by the reveal of super clone Lucina. Her inclusion in TF gives her the edge over K. Rool. If Sakurai asked Retro Studios for input, I'd imagine it would be in her favor.
Want: 100%
Clone or no clone, let's get this lady in smash!

Lucas:
Chance: 25%
He's more than just a clone, but the lack of an international release for Mother 3 hurts his chances. This also makes the intensity for the character's return lacking within the larger gaming community. Ness will be back, the question is whether Lucas will join him. My guess would be no, he will go the way of Roy, another character lacking an international release.
Want: 0%
I think that I would be okay without him in the game.

Mewtwo Prediction: 75.67%
King K. Rool: 60.37%​

 

[Leafeon523]

Dixie Kong:
Chance: 2% (if K. Rool isn't in) 60% (If K. Rool is in) Total: 31%
She would have to be a clone to get in at this point, but she's not getting in without K.. Rool. they wouldn't announce a clone on their own.
Want: 0%
A clone of one of my least favorite characters to use? Ugh.

Lucas:
Chance: 80%
If Toon Link can get in, so can Lucas.
Want: 70%
I don't often use him, but I still like fighting against him.

Predictions:
K.Rool: 58%
Mewtwo: 82%

 

[AustarusIV]

Dixie Kong

Chance: 50%
It could go either way. At this point, I get the feeling that both her and K. Rool have an equal possibility of getting in, but only one will make it in.

Want: 90%
I loved her in DKC2 and DKC3! I would be hyped if she gets in.

Lucas

Chance: 65%
Now that the pesky Gematsu leak is gone, I can feel more confident in Lucas's chances now. But there's still the off chance that he might get the axe, which is why my rating for him isn't higher.

Want: 70%
MOTHER 3 was an awesome game, and Lucas was an amazing protagonist. He's also pretty decent to play as in Smash.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Dixie
Chance:70%
I really didn't have too much faith in her until Lucina arrived. Now that we've got last minute semi-clones, Dixie would probably be one of the larger priorities, which greatly increases her chances. That, and she has that importance along with her.

Want:52%
Probably my least wanted of all the logical clones we could have, but I still really like clones, so she gets a slightly positive score from me.

Lucas:
Chance:90%
There's really no reason to cut him, and I really don't find it likely in the slightest. I believe that with both the delay, and Lucina being a last minute character, that Sakurai got all the Brawl veterans in.

Want:95%
I absolutely hate cuts.

 

[Narth]

Dixie Kong
Chances - 40%
I don't particularly see it happening. It could happen for more attention to be focused on the new Donkey Kong Country games, but my gut feeling tells me she'll miss joining the battle this time round, although I read somewhere she was planned for Brawl, but I may be wrong about that.

Want - 90%
I think that the use of her hair could be interesting as a fighter, and I don't understand why people think she'd be a clone. I think she could be very unique.

Lucas
Chances - 20%
Sakurai has said that not all characters are going to make it in, and in my opinion, Lucas wasn't a great addition to Brawl. Although he was slightly different from Ness, he was too much of a clone of a character that people didn't care about enough to be liked as a newcomer.

Want - 10%
I don't really enjoy using him or Ness that much in Brawl much at all. Many other of the newcomers in Brawl that haven't been announced yet, like Meta Knight, deserve the place rather than Lucas in my opinion.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

Dixie-
Chance: 50% I figure it's gotta be her or K. Rool. She adds (another) female and she's been prominent in a recent game. K. Rool adds a villain and he's a classic DK character.

Want: 100% Any new DK rep is good with me.

Lucas-
Chance: 90% With the addition of Lucina, I think Lucas is basically as safe as it gets, plain and simple. He isn't even close to being an exact clone.

Want- 100% He's a vet and formerly my Brawl main!

 

[PK_Wonder]

Dixie Kong - 41%
Lucas - 49%

 

[UnicornDemon]

Dixie- 30%
Want- 65%
I don't expect Donkey Kong to get a newcomer. The franchise's last big game was Donkey Kong Country Returns, which didn't feature either of Dixie or K. Rool. If Dixie was playable, she'd probably be announced by now to help bolster Tropical Freeze/Wii U sales. As for want- I like Dixie, but I'm not sure what she could do besides hit people with her hair.

Lucas- 65%
Want- 0%
He seems like an expendable character. As for want, I've had the chance to play as Lucas and I can say I do not desire to play as or against him again in Smash 4. I'm not one of the people who submits himself to the "no cuts" mentality. I applaud cuts and believe them desirable so as to increase time devoted to creating a greater number of fresh, interesting newcomers.

Mewtwo- 74%
K. Rool- 68%

 

[Burigu]

That's still Ridley shown in gameplay even with just the tail appearing, no one can deny that it is Ridley whose on the Pyrosphere as a boss appearance, I don't think you have made your argument too well.
Unless you are implying Ridley is deconfirmed.
But this isn't the place to argue, so I will leave it at that.

For the record in my post about Dark Pit(in my rating post, that one with lots of images and more evidence) I said "debatible" Ridley teaser (if a fully shown character counts for some as a teaser I fail to see why something like a shadow can't), so no I was really clear about it, I always cover my back so people can't come at me with an argument like this.

My argument about being shown still stands, Palutena statue (conveniently shown after the 3ds "leaks") AND Pseudo Palutena (conveniently shown from the back to make everybody think it was Palutena) and Monolith retweet about monday's reveal are teasers. So no I don't really need Ridley.

You tried friend, but when you answered my about Ridley ignoring the fact I refuted your Pseudo Palutena point no objections you dropped it. If someone didn't made his argument to well it's you my friend.

If you want me to accept Dark Pit has a chance refute my points with evidence not an hypotetical Sakurai's conspirancy that you used to make him likely, like interpreting a pic that even Sakurai said not to take seriously
Every NEWCOMER so far has an intro:
OPINION or FACT?
Even a clone like Lucina got her intro while Dark Pit didn't
OPINION or FACT?
I stand by facts here no opinions

I didn't even wanted to start an argument now that the day is over, just pointed out that a name mention isn't enough to discard that argument. But when you tried to counter me with Pseudo Palutena, things got funny, I am a person who gladly accept a mistake if someone points me about it, but you failed to make a coherent reply.
I agree with you this is no place to discuss this I will drop this now if you have any further comments you know where to find me

 

[chronomantic]

-Dixie
Chance 60% - huge and undeniable presence throughout the whole DK franchise including the last two games.
Want 60% - she'd be cute and I'd love her hair gameplay. She's the only DK rep I want.

-Lucas
Chance 50%
Want 0% - I say no to clones. Lucina was an exception. Ness most probably takes priority over him.

 

[Kalimdori]

Lucas Chance: 85%
((Gematsu+Vague statement)/Outdated information)*Clone newcomers = unlikely to be cut.

Yup! My math is flawless!

Seriously though, if we've gotten to the point that Sakurai is splitting costumes into characters for pure fan service, I highly doubt that any of Brawls characters (Barring Ivysaur, Squirtle, and maybe Snake) will be cut. Not only that, they had time to make 3 custom moves for each characters specials. Lucas isn't that much of a clone, and comes from a critically acclaimed game with one of the biggest cult followings ever, which was possibly teased to be localized in Nintendo's E3 event. (Unless Nintendo was purposefully jabbing at fans. But they delivered with the Star Fox thing, why not Mother?)

Want: 100%
Dat Up Smash

Dixie Kong: Chance: 80%
Easy semi clone is easy.

She'd have to have a few changes, she doesn't have a rocketbarrel pack for instance, but a ton of her moves could come straight from Diddy. And since we got both Robin and Lucina, I wouldn't be surprised (Actually kind of expecting) there to be a trailer where both Dixie (A semi clone newcomer) and K. Rool (unique newcomer) are revealed. Forbidden 7, popular choice to get in, the biggest reason against her, that she would be to much like Diddy, is out the window.

Want: 70%

Why not? I have no problem with clones, we have a ton of unique newcomers, easily the most diverse a Smash game ever has. I can live with a few semi clones.

 

[Chandeelure]

-Lucas:
Chances: 95%
Want: 100%

-Dixie Kong:
Chances: 20%
Want: 30%

 

[Xenigma]

Dixie Kong - 25%
On one hand, between Gematsu's fall and the appearance of a clone newcomer in Lucina, it's looking much more possible for Dixie to appear as a semi-clone. On the other hand, the simple idea that she didn't appear with the release of Tropical Freeze along with a continually filling roster makes it seem more and more like Donkey Kong simply won't get a newcomer. She feels like she would be simple to implement at the very least (take Diddy, change jetpack to helicopter hair, swap out pop-gun for something). Maybe she ends up as a secret unlockable newcomer in the vein of Wolf or Toon Link, but I'm not counting on it unless we start seeing evidence that there's more DK on the way.
Want - 75% - One of my favorite DK characters, but not necessarily the best choice for Smash either.

Lucas - 50%
With the later Gematsu leaks now being super questionable, Lucas should be back in business. Heck, we've even got solid proof that (semi-)clones are more than welcome in SSB4 with Lucina. Nevertheless, I remain cautious on this front because Mother getting two characters was quite odd in the first place, and the Lucas bit came from a part of the Gematsu leak that actually has some individual credibility to it (specifically naming "Mii Fighters" before their reveal). Even if it seems more likely that the clones of Smash may return, Lucas remains one of the easier cuts from Brawl should cuts need to be made. Not sure what to expect right now, so I'll leave his chances right in the middle.
Want - 50% - Meh.

 

[Hippopotasauce]

Dixie Kong Likelihood: 30%
Want: 60%

Lucas Likelihood: 90%
Want: 80%

 

[Glaciacott]

Dixie Kong
Chance - 50%
With Gematsu in full fail (most likely), I feel the idea of a third DK rep has been revitalized considerably. This time though, I'll be more humble and consider Dixie an equal contender with K. Rool, because frankly I see merit for both.
And no, none of this is considering the possibility of her being a clone. I don't see why she'd be one, honestly.

Want - 80%
Recently I was reminiscing my experience with the DK series, and realized that one of my most defining experiences in life was going through DKC2 for the first time, and part of the joy was having Diddy and Dixie working together from that very first level. With Dixie being such a crucial part of my childhood, as well as later on being my character of choice for Tropical Freeze, I think it's fair to give her her due in terms of want rating.

Lucas
Chance - 50%
Same score? How lazy of me. But hear me out.
I think there's a 50% chance he'll be playable. And because of , I think the other 50% is that he'll be an alt costume.

Spoiler

Ok, so since the Lucina incident and the whole Fire Emblem having more characters than previously imagined, I'm having a resurgence in faith when it comes to Earthbound representation.
In terms of what I think could happen, my greatest hope is actually that Lucas is an alt costume. PK Freeze could easily be a customizable moveset of PK flash, and so on and so forth for all the other special moves. I think it makes a lot of sense.
Also, along with this hope is another much much much much much much more remote hope, but one that after I'm ok hoping.
If Lucina was just an alt skin turned clone but the main third FE spot was given to Robin (due to uniqueness and adding something that Smash didn't have before) ... my super awesome dream is that with Lucas being an alt of Ness, they'll want to instead give his playable spot to a new Earthbound character that doesn't use PK for attacking.
My greatest hope? Porky. Goddam that'd be sweet. But I suppose Jeff could really also be possible, maybe Duster if we're pushing it.
But damn, Porky is the one that's making me dream and dream in time gone by. And really it's all because of actually happening (yes, I still can't believe it almost a week later. Unbelievable.)

Want - 50%
As you could have guessed from my little aside there, I'm actually really seriously rooting for Lucas to be an alt costume instead of playable. For ulterior motives...
However, if there's no actual intent of another Earthbound character, then yea, I'd rather he keep his slot and function like Lucina.

 

[loganhogan]

Dixie Kong
chance: 40%
want: 10%
To me Dixie Kong is in a tricky situation. On one hand being similar to Diddy should probably help her because she would take less resources than someone like K. Rool. On the contrary my impression with the inclusion of certain newcomers (mainly Robin) is that he'd prefer to stray away from similar characters this time around. Apparently Chrom had it all relevance, popularity, importance but he was dismissed for Robin who carried more and differentiated himself from his co-Fire Emblem combatants. I think she has a decent chance but I'm not entirely convinced.

Lucas
chance 70%
want 0%
I think he's going to return, the only veterans I believe won't return are Melee's cuts, Snake, and the two other pokemon that were with Charizard.

 

[Davidreamcatcha]

Dixie Kong
Chance: 10%
Want: 0%

Dixie's merits mainly come from her recent revival in Tropical Freeze and the fact that she can be so easily cloned. Smash has thus far shown next to no acknowledgement of TF's existence in the most natural place it could be referenced (Snowmads in Smash Run). In addition, Dixie as a clone prevents her fans from getting a full-out moveset. Her chances raise much higher if she is the Lucina to K. Rool's Robin - but her claiming that spot as a clone would annoy plenty of people.

Lucas
Chance: 100%
Want: 100%

Why wouldn't he come back?

 

[YoshiandToad]

Dixie Kong
Chance: 80%
Not getting in without K. Rool? Don't make me laugh; she has more than enough merits of her own to get in, and Lucina did nothing but increase that. Could she get in WITH K. Rool? Certainly, but I still see her as the more likely option of the two DK characters.

Whether we like it or not; we are getting more female characters this time round(that much is evident; where all the villains at?), and very few heroines deserve the role more than Dixie Kong.

A girl who not only avoided the trite cliche of being a damsel in distress, but even actively has had to save HER boyfriend AND the hero(twice) as well as aid them both in taking back the island from an army of vikings.

She's current, she's beloved, she had data for Brawl, and since yes; she can borrow elements from Diddy Kong, wouldn't take a huge chunk of dev time to create. No idea why everyone keeps ranking her as low 10% in chance, especially after that Lucina reveal.

Want: 100%
The only Nintendo heroine* I've cared about outside Samus, Peach and Zelda. I don't need beautiful waifus; just a character who evokes some fond memories which Dixie certainly does.

*only pure female anyway; Robin and Female Villager I was rooting for.

Lucas
Chance: 95%
Gematsu suggested there was some in house discussion on cutting either Ness or Lucas, with Lucas more likely on the chopping block, but a few things have happened;

Every character in Brawl not called Pokemon Trainer(or more precisely; Squirtle and Ivysaur) and Snake appears to either have come back or is highly likely to return. Ike is back, Lucario is back, Toon Link is back. All characters we felt were likely cuts. We were wrong every time.

Secondly; Lucina proving clones or new semi clones are still a thing. Why would you cut a character like Lucas who can borrow elements from Ness?

And Gematsu was wrong about Chrom(and when Shulk would appear) so it's not currently a totally reliable source.

The only thing really against Lucas is that he's Japan only; and Sakurai mentioned his unease at including characters that are Japanese exclusives.

Want: 5%
That said; Lucas is by far my least wanted veteran. His inclusion just reminds me we'll never get a legit Mother 3 release.

 

[Icedragonadam]

Dixie Kong- Chance 40% She only got prominence in Tropical Freeze.

Want: 0% I want K Rool as the third Donkey Kong character.

- 99.9% Chance. With Ike, Toon Link, Lucario, and Lucina in the game why wouldn't he be back?

Want: 100% My most wanted vet to return along with Ness.

 

[SethTheMage]

Yay! We're rating Dixie again!

Lucas:

Chance: 70%
With the accuracy of the Gematsu leaker's recent leaks in question, I'm not sure that Lucas will be cut anymore. Sakurai seems to be bringing back as many Brawl veterans as possible, and so I think Lucas has a good chance of coming back too. If Toon Link can return, so can Lucas.

Want: 100%
I prefer Lucas to Ness, and I loved Mother 3, so I feel it still deserves some love. I would be very sad if Lucas were cut.


Dixie Kong:

Chance: 60%
Since Robin and Lucina were revealed together, I think that Dixie has a decent chance of being announced alongside K. Rool. While DLC is no longer guaranteed, I think Dixie has enough merits to get in on her own. She is very important to the DK series, she has unique moveset potential with her hair, guitar, and Bubblegum Popgun, and if Sakurai isn't feeling creative, she could also end up as a semi-clone of Diddy.

Want: 100%
Most wanted newcomer. Hell to the yes.

 

[Cheezey Bites]

Dixie: 50%
If FE can get 4 character DK can too, and fairly well. I think K.Rool is still more likely as he is the most popular newcomer request left (worldwide), but Lucina makes me think getting both is more likely... that said Dixie couldn't be a clone of Diddy in the same way, she's have to have her own move set with her hair... as such she'd have to get in as her own character, and I'm still pretty split on that front...

Want: 50%
I don't see what'd make her a special character, but I do want DK to get more representation... Aslong as she doesn't out-prioritise K.Rool we're cool!


Lucas: 90%
There are new clones, and there are returning semi's with TLink... I think he's pretty damn safe.

Want: 100%
Why would I want him to go? I like Lucas!




K.Rool: 58.2%
Mewtwo: 87.4%

 

[McDuckletts]

Dixie Kong
Chance: 40%
I am 100 percent confident that we are getting a DK newcomer, the question is, however, which one will we get (Dixie/K. Rool)? I would give both candidates the same score if it weren't for a recent development , which I will go into with greater detail tomorrow. Dixie is still a solid choice and and has a ton going for her. Also, she can be unique guys. Just because two characters have similar designs doesn't one has to be a clone, just look at Peach and Rosalina.
Want: 99%
At this point I'd be okay with either Dixie or K. Rool, though I will be salty if she makes it in over the king.

Lucas
Chance: 99%
Gematsu is dead. Toon Link came back. Lucina's a full blown clone. Everything's turning up Lucas.
100%
One of my Brawl secondaries, so I would be upset if he's gone. But even if he does get cut, I'll understand why.

 

[Parallel_Falchion]

Dixie King chance - 75%
DK kind of needs another rep at this rate, and Dixie seems the most plausible, being a member of the forbidden 7, used recently, and has had persistent inclusion in the series. I never got the hype over K. Rool, and I can't see him getting in over Dixie, either.

Want - 80%
I'd really like to see her in, and I could see them doing some fun things with her hair.

Lucas chance - 65%
Hard to guess, really. A year ago I'd have put his chances much lower, but seeing Toon Link, Lucario, Charizard, and Ike return makes it clear that Sakurai wants to bring back as many characters as possible. However, I always considered him the first candidate for potential cutting, and it's pretty close to release without him appearing, so I can still see it happening.

EDIT: Raising his chances considering clone confirmations.

Want - 50%
I'm basically completely neutral on his potential inclusion.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Dixie Kong
Chance: 70%, I think K. Rool is more likely, but Dixie has a very good chance of making it in either without K. Rool, or with K. Rool, but personally I'm thinking more on the latter. At this point I'm positive K. Rool is in, but if FE can get three with one easy clone, DK can easily get four. Dixie can be fully original or a semiclone, doesn't matter, she has plenty of potential. Sakurai may make her a semiclone, though, and just remove the jetpack and have her attack with her hair instead.
Want: 100%. I hate how some people rate this at "0%" because they want a different character from the same franchise more. Rate the character on their own merits, not on how much you want someone else more! Geez... Dixie is my favorite DK character. I want K. Rool more, and if it comes down to one or the other, I want K. Rool first. But I fully want both K. Rool and Dixie Kong if possible!

Lucas
Chance: 85%, before Lucina I'd have ranked him lower, but not much. I don't think Lucas is going anyway, especially with the Mother 3 tease at E3.
Want: 75%, I'd rather have Lucas back over Ness, I like Lucas a lot better. But I don't have any close connections to Lucas or the Mother series in general.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Dixie Kong

Chance: 75%

Seeing Lucina being confirmed for the game has made me more confident in Dixie Kong. It is because Dixie Kong only would fight similarly to Diddy Kong in one or two of her moves, most notably .
Having been in a recent game in the Donkey Kong Country Returns Tropical Freeze game helps a tremendous amount.

Want: 86%

I grew up playing Donkey Kong Country 2 and loved every minute of it. Dixie Kong stuck out to me (seriously, how does a monkey that uses her hair for both grabbing and attacking things don't do that?) as I played the game and I have supported her as a Nintendo character ever since. Now granted, I do not want her if it means getting in over King K. Rool, but I expect the Donkey Kong Countries Series to get 4 slots.

Lucas

Chance: 95%
There is no real reason for him to be cut and now that Lucina has been revealed, Lucas has no reason not to come back. Lucas has more than enough differences between him and Ness to fit Sakurai's criteria of getting a character slot.

Want: 65%

I don't mind him. I may not be as attached to him as other people may be, but I see no reason to cut him from the roster.

 

[Delzethin]

Dixie Kong
Chance:
-Main Roster: 40%
-As DLC: 25%

Dixie's chances lie as being a mostly original character. While Sakurai said he refused to go out of his way keep Chrom from feeling redundant, the opposite is also true: he doesn't want to turn a distinct character into a clone, which is why he didn't have Wario be Mario's clone in Melee. Dixie has enough unique talents compared to Diddy that the only way she could viably be a counterpart to her boyfriend is if she was the Luigi to his Mario: a few similarities, but mostly different.

This means she'd be a poor fit for a Lucina-style bonus clone, meaning she'd have to have been on the planned roster from the beginning...meaning that yes, she does still have kompetition. Between the Kremlings in Smash Run and the Chunky Kong sightings, it looks like DKC is getting enough attention where a third rep is very likely...but it'll come down between her and the king. Whichever doesn't make it might still end up as DLC, though.

Want: 50%

Lately, I've warmed up to the idea of her making it. I've heard some cool moveset ideas that'd help her feel unique: using her guitar as her Down-B, summoning Squawks for her Up-B, having her double jump be the one from Tropical Freeze, and have her slowly descend afterward if you hold the button a la DKC2 & 3. I'd still rather see K. Rool make it, but I'd be okay with Dixie.


Lucas
Chance:
-Main Roster: 50%
-As DLC: 40% (Note: DLC ratings assume the character is not on the main roster)

The debunking of most of the Gematsu leak is a huge help for Lucas. He's no longer reportedly in danger of being cut...as far as we know. He's still a half-clone who was only really in Brawl because of Mother 3's recent release at the time of development. Sakurai has said he doesn't like cutting characters...but with Mother 3 relegated to cult status and unobtainable legally in most of the world, could he have felt Lucas' time has passed? Perhaps he could miss the opening roster and still make it if DLC includes a popular former veteran or two...

Want: 20%

He doesn't feel that necessary any more. He was mainly in Brawl to promote Mother 3, and unlike other half-clones like Toon Link and Falco, he isn't as relevant to his entire franchise. He feels vestigial and unnecessary at this point...but if they have extra time to make another bonus clone like Lucina, I guess I'd be okay with him coming back that way.


Predictions
King K. Rool: 61.24%
Mewtwo: 48.95%

Both villains (well, Mewtwo's questionable in the games), both highly requested...and both potentially rated high. Confirmation bias could skew these...

 

[WeirdChillFever]

The girl with the whirl
75% Chance Why not both?
100% Want

I don't know enough of Earthbound to think of a cool name for him:
80% Chance. If Gematu is so outdated/plain wrong that it still had info on Chrom, I don't think a "debate" that Lucas "seemingly lost" is absolutely true.

Want: 75%. Didn't care for him, but I don't like losing vets in general.

Future seeing:
The King with the Skaly Skin:
70% Will mostly be detracted by the lack of slots.

The most powerful clone that's not Toon Link:
80%

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

Chance = 80%
Want = 100%

After the success of donkey kong country tropical freeze I could really see them adding her it to promote that game since that's something they seem to be doing now
Greninja = X and Y
Rosalina = 3D World
Robin/Lucina = Awakening
etc

She has way more moveset potential than most people think being a unique fighter and attacking with her hair in a similar way to millia from guilty gear and being a very aerial focused fighter unlike diddy, she also has other things that she could use in battle like her guitar, her bubble gum gun and even her sisters feather blaster.

(Basically what I'm saying is, there is ZERO reason she should be a clone)

She is also really popular with that going back as far as her first appearance in DKC2, where she was the preferred choice to most players. This popularity even led her to star in her own game (which people often forget) plus she was planned to be in brawl

 

[~Krystal~]

Dixie

Chance: 80%
Prominent character within Donkey Kong since the 1990s. She was even on the cartoon show. It's hard to argue against her star power. The mount Rushmore of DKC is Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong and K. Rool. The other thing is that she's a simple character to string together. It's already been discussed at length on these boards, so I won't bore anyone with details as to how she would function.

Want: 100%
Dixie is a simple character, but I've liked her since day one. I see plenty of things that could make her a good idea.


Lucas

Chance: 50%
A coin flip is fair. There's nothing concrete which suggests he's getting cut no questions asked. He would be easy to keep if they copy pasted his moveset. Don't get me wrong, it bothers me when I see these kids with rented specials urinating all over mother canon, but my gripes have no bearing on Lucas' chances as a returning veteran.

Want: 40%
After reflecting on this, I think one mother rep is enough. If there has to be a second, I would like it to be an antagonist like Claus or Porky.
Heck, I would even take the abstract form of Giygas. He could be the first PC to double as a stage.