Queen of the Underworld: Medusa's Secret Hideout

[Takasmash]

I kinda see Medusa being one the last echo fighters being announce alongside Ken and Shadow.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I kinda see Medusa being one the last echo fighters being announce alongside Ken and Shadow.

Same this is my final prediction for the base roster.

69: Incineroar
70: Banjo or Steve
71: Elma
72: Geno

36e: Dixie Kong
38e: Shadow
54e: Medusa
60e: Ken

Rounds out to 82 fighters (87 if we count Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard and the Miis as separate).

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Same this is my final prediction for the base roster.

69: Incineroar
70: Banjo or Steve
71: Elma
72: Geno

36e: Dixie Kong
38e: Shadow
54e: Medusa
60e: Ken

Rounds out to 82 fighters (87 if we count Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard and the Miis as separate).

Here's my prediction list for the base roster:

69: Incineroar
70: Tails
71: Shantae
72: Geno
73: Banjo-Kazooie

36e: Dixie Kong
38e: Shadow
54e: Medusa
60e: Ken

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Hm... I'm at a point where predicting characters is hard. I mean, real newcomers. On the other hand I'm indeed expecting Shadow, Ken and Impa, and hoping for Medusa, for echo characters.

 

[Ikanger]

Okay guys so I kinda hate myself for this at this point lol, but I couldn't resist.

I made one more Tweet in which I tagged Cree because this wait can really get on my nerves. Here's the Tweet:

https://twitter.com/Jesse_deValk/status/1046824978975477761?s=09

Now here comes the fun part.. about half an hour to an hour after my Tweet she Retweeted that Tweet, BUT, but shortly after she actually deleted the retweet!! (This post is all minutes after that happened). I don't even know what to think anymore... this almost has to be something.. or is that weird to think? Was it intentional, and her way of giving a hint? Was the retweet just a mistake (though that seems weird)? Is she just playing around for fun? Aaaaa idk it anymore..

Screens:

http://imgur.com/a/pd7tAVn

Okay guys so I kinda hate myself for this at this point lol, but I couldn't resist.

I made one more Tweet in which I tagged Cree because this wait can really get on my nerves. Here's the Tweet:

https://twitter.com/Jesse_deValk/status/1046824978975477761?s=09

Now here comes the fun part.. about half an hour to an hour after my Tweet she Retweeted that Tweet, BUT, but shortly after she actually deleted the retweet!! (This is all minutes after I'm making this post). I don't even know what to think anymore... this almost has to be something.. or is that weird to think? Was it intentional, and her way of giving a hint? Was the retweet just a mistake (though that seems weird)? Is she just playing around for fun? Aaaaa idk it anymore..

Screens:

http://imgur.com/a/pd7tAVn

Oops I didn't mean to reply to myself lol

 

[zferolie]

Tripple poster! How dare!

Still, that is interesting... could mean nothing, could mean something. I really feel so many people are just sleeping on Medusa and just think Ken and Shadow are our only echos left... which is the stupidest idea ever

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Indeed that's interesting although it could mean nothing in the end... Or it could mean something.

Even the wait for a last Smash Direct is killing me honestly

 

[Machete]

Worst part is, even if Medusa is in, we probably wouldn't know until a final echo blowout in the final Direct, which is most likely in November. If we get anything this month, it'll probably be a stand-alone trailer. So the wait isn't gonna be any easier.

 

[GoodShepperd]

Based on sakurai saying they’re gonna slow down the rate of announcements I’m guessing all that’s left is one big Smash Direct

 

[zferolie]

Worst part is, even if Medusa is in, we probably wouldn't know until a final echo blowout in the final Direct, which is most likely in November. If we get anything this month, it'll probably be a stand-alone trailer. So the wait isn't gonna be any easier.

I think its possible we may just get some echos shown off randomly this month. They don't have trailers, so Sakurai could just say, "Hey, tommorow we'll be showing off 3 echos, stay tuned", and it wouldn't tie into at all the slowdown of reveal trailers.

I do think though Medusa will be shown before, or during, the story mode of the game, as she is probably a key figure in it

Based on sakurai saying they’re gonna slow down the rate of announcements I’m guessing all that’s left is one big Smash Direct

Again, all he said was the slow down of Reveal trailers. This wouldn't tie into echos as the don't get trailers

 

[CaptainMapleSyrup]

I do think though Medusa will be shown before, or during, the story mode of the game, as she is probably a key figure in it

If (and this is a big if) there is a Story Mode and it focuses on this “Spirits” mode that rumor-mongerers have been buzzing about since that blurred main menu was shown, I was thinking... if the core theme is about collecting the spirits/souls of heroes, you know who’s got a fairly strong association with that kind of thing? The Underworld Army, that’s who!

 

[GoodShepperd]

I think its possible we may just get some echos shown off randomly this month. They don't have trailers, so Sakurai could just say, "Hey, tommorow we'll be showing off 3 echos, stay tuned", and it wouldn't tie into at all the slowdown of reveal trailers.

I do think though Medusa will be shown before, or during, the story mode of the game, as she is probably a key figure in it



Again, all he said was the slow down of Reveal trailers. This wouldn't tie into echos as the don't get trailers

Right, I think we can still get several more echoes but I'm guessing they all get dropped together. We haven't had any echoes who weren't announced at the same time as some other newcomer. SInce E3 there's been slightly less than one announcement per month, E3 in June, the August Smash Direct and then the September general direct. Slowing down from that has to mean that there's only one more announcement in the next two months before the game comes out so I'm guessing everything that's left is gonna be revealed all at once.

 

[Ikanger]

Idk about you guys but I'm putting money on that what Cree did yesterday meant something for Medusa. Whether she's playable or a boss or AT. It meant something.

I've made an overview of what she did in the past few months regarding this topic:

1. Cree liked Tweets of people who want Medusa in Smash. She even liked a Tweet asking her if she had been approached by Nintendo. When someone exposed that, she even liked that Tweet.

2. I posted my drawing on Instagram, she liked it.

3. I posted my drawing on Twitter. She retweeted it.

4. I made another Tweet, asking for a hint. She liked it.

5. And finally, I made another Tweet desperately asking for a hint if Medusa is to become playable. She retweeted and very shortly after deleted the retweet.

See what she did? Last time I asked for a hint she liked.. now when I asked for a hint again she realized a like wouldn't be enough.. so she did this, which is just super suspicious. Like, what... it just has to be something. It's dangerous, but I'm putting money on that this possibly confirmed Medusa. Whether she's playable or not. You gotta believe in something, and call me crazy, but I'm choosing to believe in this. And I'm prepared to be wrong. Still, the only thing that will truly tell us is time.

Update: apparently Cree had also liked my tweet, and then unliked it when retweeting. That didn't appear in my Twitter notifications for idk what reason, but it did on my phone itself I just noticed. I honestly forgot to take a screen before I clicked, but the notification confused me as it didn't appear in my Twitter inbox, so I clicked right away.

 

[Machete]

So, lasses and lads, how would you feel if Medusa ended up as an Assist Trophy or a boss? Would you take it as a consolation prize or you wouldn’t care at all?

As a Ridley and Midna fan, I can say that I’ve never been thrilled about non playable appearances, but maybe someone thinks differently.

 

[Ikanger]

So, lasses and lads, how would you feel if Medusa ended up as an Assist Trophy or a boss? Would you take it as a consolation prize or you wouldn’t care at all?

As a Ridley and Midna fan, I can say that I’ve never been thrilled about non playable appearances, but maybe someone thinks differently.

It's certainly better than nothing. At least Medusa would appear in HD and she would get some acknowledgement. Between the two I'd rather have her be a boss as I see her more fit for that. I'd still be slightly dissapointed but also be happy she at least didn't get neglected completely.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

So, lasses and lads, how would you feel if Medusa ended up as an Assist Trophy or a boss? Would you take it as a consolation prize or you wouldn’t care at all?

As a Ridley and Midna fan, I can say that I’ve never been thrilled about non playable appearances, but maybe someone thinks differently.

Well, this is a role nontheless. Of course I want to play Medusa, but you know... When I see characters such as Midna, Saki or Ashley being assists, I still like the fact that they have a role and are not forgotten.

 

[Admiral Pit]

So, lasses and lads, how would you feel if Medusa ended up as an Assist Trophy or a boss? Would you take it as a consolation prize or you wouldn’t care at all?

As a Ridley and Midna fan, I can say that I’ve never been thrilled about non playable appearances, but maybe someone thinks differently.

Definitely better than nothing. Seeing Medusa in HD for the first time in a game would be a blessing, and perhaps that alone can encourage more brilliant art of her to happen, even though I obviously prefer her to be playable, for not only will it gives KI more love, but that drastically encourage more beautiful art of her to appear. Plus honestly, I've been noticing KI art in general have been pretty rare ever since Uprising started aging, and I would love to see more KI love, period... and playable Medusa may be just the thing we need for such to happen.

 

[GoodShepperd]

Well for one thing it seems like it would be a waste to make a smash model of Medusa only to use it as an assist trophy since basically all they need to do to make her an echo is make a model and slap it over Palutena's moveset (There would be other minor tweaks and things I know but still the model is the biggest part imo). So I would say either Boss or Echo fighter are the most likely.

Personally tho I'll be kind of bummed if she's an AT or a boss, cuz to be honest I'll prolly only do the story/boss mode once and I don't always play with items so I wouldn't see much of her if she ends up as one of those

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

I would be happy with boss, assist trophy no. Leave the assists to the smaller characters in Uprising like the ones we got in Smash 4. Hell throw Viridi in the assist trophy pool too.

 

[zferolie]

I would rather have a boss then a AT, as I feel she would be pretty epic as a boss.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

https://www.inverse.com/article/49474-smash-ultimate-leaks-roster-new-character-medusa

Guys I pieced it all together now! The playlist, Medusa being classed as spooky which makes sense due to her appearance and being based off of the actual Medusa in myths, the Medusa statue in Castlevania which alone is spooky and Halloween based game series.

Medusa might be our reveal of this month!!!!

PLEASE BE TRUE!!!!

 

[Admiral Pit]

I don't know what this "playlist" is and all, but seeing the surge of Medusa does catch my interest. There may be hope after all, and if she does all, I'll gladly say she's the hero the game and roster needs, ironically I say that, but yet not only does it mean the first female villain in Smash, but more Kid Icarus love will come to us. At this point, if she did get in, Phosphora would be a mega bonus in my eyes.

Don't get your hopes up though, but if she's ever revealed though, then we can spread the Celestial Fireworks and jump with joy. I know I'll be smiling though.

 

[Takasmash]

If Medusa does get in smash whats going to happen to the Medusa in the Castlevania stage?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

If Medusa does get in smash whats going to happen to the Medusa in the Castlevania stage?

Nothing. Those are two completely different incarnations based off of the actual Medusa from Greek Mythology. She's a public domain character.

 

[Ikanger]

Woah that's so cool someone finally wrote an article about this!!! please let her be next

Also, could you elaborate a little on this playlist thing? I must have missed that.

 

[CaptainMapleSyrup]

Also, could you elaborate a little on this playlist thing? I must have missed that.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77059994

The Japanese fighter video playlist was updated a few days ago on YouTube (this happened 10 days before Isabelle was revealed), and the "New!" marker has been removed from the most recent fighters listed on the official Smash website. It’s not Medusa-specific but it’s a pretty good indicator of an upcoming Direct involving Smash (or some other form of character reveal) within the next two weeks.

 

[Ikanger]

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77059994

The Japanese fighter video playlist was updated a few days ago on YouTube (this happened 10 days before Isabelle was revealed), and the "New!" marker has been removed from the most recent fighters listed on the official Smash website. It’s not Medusa-specific but it’s a pretty good indicator of an upcoming Direct involving Smash (or some other form of character reveal) within the next two weeks.

Ah thank you for explaining! That's super hype!!! Looks like we'll be getting some new info soon..

 

[DreamZeroX]

Idk about you guys but I'm putting money on that what Cree did yesterday meant something for Medusa. Whether she's playable or a boss or AT. It meant something.

I've made an overview of what she did in the past few months regarding this topic:

1. Cree liked Tweets of people who want Medusa in Smash. She even liked a Tweet asking her if she had been approached by Nintendo. When someone exposed that, she even liked that Tweet.

2. I posted my drawing on Instagram, she liked it.

3. I posted my drawing on Twitter. She retweeted it.

4. I made another Tweet, asking for a hint. She liked it.

5. And finally, I made another Tweet desperately asking for a hint if Medusa is to become playable. She retweeted and very shortly after deleted the retweet.

See what she did? Last time I asked for a hint she liked.. now when I asked for a hint again she realized a like wouldn't be enough.. so she did this, which is just super suspicious. Like, what... it just has to be something. It's dangerous, but I'm putting money on that this possibly confirmed Medusa. Whether she's playable or not. You gotta believe in something, and call me crazy, but I'm choosing to believe in this. And I'm prepared to be wrong. Still, the only thing that will truly tell us is time.

I'm so Glad you posted this. I too was one of the people who desperately asked her on Twitter if she had been approached by Nintendo. I believe this does mean something in the End, it leads up to, too many questions at this point & how close the game is to being released. Come on.

 

[Kuon]

I've always wanted Viridi more than Medusa, but after seeing Reset Bomb Forest return, I've basically given up the idea of Viridi being playable, and after seeing all this stuff about Medusa's VA liking and retweeting tweets, it's really starting to get me hyped for Medusa being in. First off, we need more female newcomers. As of right now, the only unique female newcomer is Isabelle (Inkling doesn't count because Inkling is dual-gendered). Secondly, I don't think we have any female villains (aside from Wendy, if that really even counts, and I'm not even sure if Dark Samus is a girl or a thing), but correct me if I'm wrong, and Medusa would be a great addition for both a female and a villain. I'm on board for her inclusion. I hope she gets in for all of us.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

It's debatable for Dark Samus' gender, but Wendy... She isn't even really a character, just a costume... I understand for characters such a female Robin ou Male Wii Fit Trainer, but it's almost saddening to see that Alph and the Koopalings are missing from the big "everyone is here" picture.

So yeah, technically, Wendy is the first female villain, and Dark Samus is here, but Medusa would be really the first female villain featured, and there would be no doubt about the gender.

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

While this would never happen, how would you feel if this version of Medusa (true form) made it into Smash and not the one we expect:

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

This will indeed not happen, but to be honest, I'd like to see a taunt allowing to switch between the two faces. Although it probably would be like Lucina and her mask, where it's only during the taunt.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Now that had been brought up. I'd love for Medusa's Final Smash to be similar to that of Giga Bowser where she grows to enormous size as seen in Uprising but instead attacks players like Zeus did in PSASBR all while showing that face.

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

This will indeed not happen, but to be honest, I'd like to see a taunt allowing to switch between the two faces. Although it probably would be like Lucina and her mask, where it's only during the taunt.

That would actually be pretty sweet. Like I could see if you're playing as Medusa and are getting beat really badly. You Switch to the other "mean" face to show your opponent you mean business and aren't screwing around anymore.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Now that had been brought up. I'd love for Medusa's Final Smash to be similar to that of Giga Bowser where she grows to enormous size as seen in Uprising but instead attacks players like Zeus did in PSASBR all while showing that face.

It's one of the many ideas for a Final Smash after all! My personal take would be being gigantic and firing a laser with the monster face.

That would actually be pretty sweet. Like I could see if you're playing as Medusa and are getting beat really badly. You Switch to the other "mean" face to show your opponent you mean business and aren't screwing around anymore.

Exactly! And while not an alternate costume, it would give players choices. Of course, she would be accused of Sakurai Bias...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

It's one of the many ideas for a Final Smash after all! My personal take would be being gigantic and firing a laser with the monster face.

If there's one thing I like its the fact many minds think alike.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

If there's one thing I like its the fact many minds think alike.

Well technically the final smash is obvious... But I like the fact that despite that, there's many possibilities.

 

[Takasmash]

I kinda see Medusa being announce over Skull Kid. I think Sakurai troll us with Skull Kid signs.

 

[CaptainMapleSyrup]

Fingers crossed we get something soon!

One thought I had to keep me distracted in the meantime - has anyone explored Photoshopping Palutena's legs on to Medusa's frame to see how it would look? You could use the legs from her SB4 Medusa palette to keep the colors right. I'm just thinking of Palutena's moveset and although we have covered how to replace the wing moves, what could be done about the few kicks she actually does:

Forward Aerial - A flying kick
Down Aerial - A downward roundhouse kick
Back Throw - Telekinetic throw backwards but also does a huge kick split with her leg while she tosses them

Medusa has that Morticia Addams/Queen Oona "dark lady" aesthetic where the dress flows down to the ground like a long flowing shadow and never reveals the legs while they move whereas Palutena has that slit up one side with Spartan sandals, more recently with long stocking covering her exposed leg. How could an echo mirror those moves without compromising her aesthetic too much? Would a wisp of shadow come out from under the dress replacing the leg? Would they give her dark scaly legs and bare feet with clawed toes to match her hands? Or would they have to replace those moves with something else?

 

[Ikanger]

Fingers crossed we get something soon!

One thought I had to keep me distracted in the meantime - has anyone explored Photoshopping Palutena's legs on to Medusa's frame to see how it would look? You could use the legs from her SB4 Medusa palette to keep the colors right. I'm just thinking of Palutena's moveset and although we have covered how to replace the wing moves, what could be done about the few kicks she actually does:

Forward Aerial - A flying kick
Down Aerial - A downward roundhouse kick
Back Throw - Telekinetic throw backwards but also does a huge kick split with her leg while she tosses them

Medusa has that Morticia Addams/Queen Oona "dark lady" aesthetic where the dress flows down to the ground like a long flowing shadow and never reveals the legs while they move whereas Palutena has that slit up one side with Spartan sandals, more recently with long stocking covering her exposed leg. How could an echo mirror those moves without compromising her aesthetic too much? Would a wisp of shadow come out from under the dress replacing the leg? Would they give her dark scaly legs and bare feet with clawed toes to match her hands? Or would they have to replace those moves with something else?

Yeah that's definitely something I've wondered about. We've never seen Medusa's legs, well at least not modern Medusa's legs. I'm sure she has them, but the long dress all covers it up, which would make it impossible to dash without tripping.. I was thinking maybe whenever she dashes she has a floating animation like Palutena but the bottom of her dress kind of flows over into this dark energy like substance (probably red and pink in color mostly with a hint of purple). Perhaps when she walks she can still just use her legs, it's not like she doesn't have them.

For attacks she does with her feet I'd say just kinda look at TP Zelda; while her dress may not be as long, it's still down to her feet. I think Medusa can still just use her feet for f-air.

Kinda like this drawing:

(Credits to maiss-thro on Deviantart)

She isn't actually doing an aerial kick here, but this drawing envisions Medusa in that kind of aerial kick motion and how it would look, more or less.