Pseudo Chaingrab on Fox?

[Blackshadow]

I don't know if anyone has discussed this (hell, I never visit the Falco boards) but w/e. Considering Fox doesn't fall down from Falco's downthrow in NTSC, I find that it's possible to play a little mix-up game involving said throw and back throw. DI-ing in to shine stops Falco from downthrowing again, right? And backthrow can be escaped by DI-ing out. So the possibilities are...

Falco downthrows:

If Fox DI's in, you get shined.
If Fox DI's out, you get another grab.

Falco backthrows:

If Fox DI's in, you get another grab.
If Fox DI's out, he escapes.

So it should be possible to mix up your grab game so that whenever the Fox expects you to backthrow, you downthrow and he DI's into your grab, and vice versa until you decide to finish the chain with a dsmash or fsmash.

 

[Pi]

couldn't he just always DI behind you then?

 

[Blackshadow]

....True. Though in the case that he catches on, you know that he's always going to DI behind you, which you could capitalize on until he mixes it up, which starts the cycle over again.

 

[Charlesz]

You can tech the downthrows, making it hard for falco to follow up. Up ill look up more on the b-throw idea, it could work =]

 

[JPOBS]

^fox cant tech falco's downthrow.
and if the fox di's the back throw away, good luck following up with anything not named laser.

the best thing you can hope for if to condition him to expect you to always do a certain type of throw, and then do something else and catch him off guard. its mostly luck tho.

 

[xbombr]

You can tech the downthrows, making it hard for falco to follow up. Up ill look up more on the b-throw idea, it could work =]

You can't tech if you don't fall over.

Fox should be able to shine or buffer roll away though. He can still DI behind you if he isn't fast enough.

 

[Charlesz]

you do fall over, just mash the control stick left or right and when he finishes lasering you on the ground you tech away.

 

[xbombr]

Yeah that works with every character except Fox. Which is who this topic is about.

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

edit: idiot

 

[Igcoris]

Falco's dthrow on Fox doesn't work. I've seen people DI away + dtilt Falco out of his dthrow. bthrow is good, but mix it up.

 

[X1-12]

i saw a pro match a while ago, can't remember who it was but the falco got like 5 grabs in a row with B-throw

 

[Pi]

i saw a pro match a while ago, can't remember who it was but the falco got like 5 grabs in a row with B-throw

zhu vs. lucky or jman or something

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQr3E6QY394

lunin, my bad

 

[Charlesz]

LOL so it does work? Or was lunin not di-ing right?

 

[X1-12]

LOL so it does work? Or was lunin not di-ing right?

just bad DI

 

[TresChikon]

Sometimes it works.

After a while, good players just don't expect that ish, so you can get a few d-throw CG's in.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

oh i thought u were talking about this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBdqQ93o42I#t=2m11s


falco pseudo chaingrab on fox has forward written all over it.

 

[Ch3s]

^^ I was just about to post this video lol. You win

 

[Rubyiris]

dthrow to b throw to uthrow is the best falco combo in the game.