Project Primid

[TCRhade]

What are the codes I need to play as the Alloys?

Character modifier. IDs:

2E ZakoRed (Red Alloy)
2F ZakoBlue (Blue Alloy)
30 ZakoYellow (Yellow Alloy)
31 ZakoGreen (Green Alloy)

Look around, I'm sure there are codelists posted on this forum.

On topic: Interesting idea! I can't wait until this is finished. Making a Primid playable by model-swapping? YEAH! I can't wait to use it. I'm waiting 'till it's completed. It's pretty unstable, right? The game constantly crashing is a little annoying...

I wish that Waluigi project hadn't been abandoned...

 

[Eldiran]

What are the codes I need to play as the Alloys?

If you feel like being lazy and just using my CSS set-up, which has Giga Bowser, the alloys, and ZSS selectable, (with minimal rearranging of the original character select layout) here you go:

Custom Character Select

Independent Pokemon Engine +no wreck My Music V2 [spunit262]
06407BD0 0000000E
04030F0D 1E1B1F1B
201B211B 221B0000
C2684964 00000007
881400B8 2C00003F
41A00028 2C03001D
40A20008 3860001E
2C03001F 40A20008
38600020 2C030021
40A20008 38600022
987400B8 00000000

CSS fixes for Giga and Company V2 [spunit262]
C2684940 00000002
9BB400B8 57BD06BE
2C1D001B 00000000
040AF8D4 546025B6
040AF964 546025B6
040AF830 546025B6
040AF528 546025B6
040AF810 546025B6
040AF880 546025B6
040AF848 546025B6

Alloys don't crash and Others don't wreck My Music V2 [spunit262]
06407BD0 0000000E
04030F0D 1E1B1F1B
201B211B 221B0000
C2815524 0000000D
7C641B78 2C030011
4182000C 2C030012
40A20008 38600010
2C03002C 40A20008
3860000C 2C03002D
40A20008 38600017
2C03002E 40A20008
3860000A 2C03002F
40A20008 3860000E
2C030030 40A20008
38600000 2C030031
40A20008 38600006
4E800020 00000000
C29472D8 00000003
2C04002E 4180000C
90810058 38000000
9801005D 00000000

Giga and Company Engine V2 [spunit262]
C2684964 00000013
881400B8 2C00003F
41A00088 2C030010
40A20008 38600011
2C030026 40A20008
38600012 2C03001D
40A20008 3860001E
2C03001F 40A20008
38600020 2C030021
40A20008 38600022
2C03000C 40A20008
3860002C 2C030017
40A20008 3860002D
2C03000A 40A20008
3860002E 2C03000E
40A20008 3860002F
2C030000 40A20008
38600030 2C030006
40A20008 38600031
987400B8 00000000
Needs "Alloys don't crash and Others don't wreck My Music V2" for safety.

CSS fixes for Samus/ZSS and Zelda/Shiek V2 [spunit262]
80693D50 38800004
06693D6C 00000008
38000000 3880000F
04697EEC 60000000
046900E8 60000000
04697F58 60000000

Custom CSS V3 [spunit262] [18 lines]
0668310C 00000030
387E006C 3B600000
3C808068 38840DE0
7CBB20AE 7CA50775
41800014 94A30004
3B7B0001 2C1B0032
4180FFE8 48000038
04690338 48000068
066900D8 00000008
2C170028 41820168
02680DE0 0022FFFF
06680DE0 0000002D
00010206 161F0811
12091A0E 0713251B
21260D05 14171022
200B270C 15240304
0A231918 4C4A4E40
465C5D5E 29000000
465C5D5E 29000000

Alloy Victory/Loss Poses:
0477F8EC 60000000

I can attest to the fact that it works without crashes.

 

[TCRhade]

Alloys don't crash and Others don't wreck My Music V2 [spunit262]
06407BD0 0000000E
04030F0D 1E1B1F1B
201B211B 221B0000
C2815524 0000000D
7C641B78 2C030011
4182000C 2C030012
40A20008 38600010
2C03002C 40A20008
3860000C 2C03002D
40A20008 38600017
2C03002E 40A20008
3860000A 2C03002F
40A20008 3860000E
2C030030 40A20008
38600000 2C030031
40A20008 38600006
4E800020 00000000
C29472D8 00000003
2C04002E 4180000C
90810058 38000000
9801005D 00000000

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Anybody have any idea WHY Giga Bowser and Wario-Man mess up My Music?

 

[Revven]

Because it's trying to find a spot to save their records into the game and when it does, it overwrites some of the music.

 

[TCRhade]

Because it's trying to find a spot to save their records into the game and when it does, it overwrites some of the music.

Odd... Their icons say "Bowser" and "Wario", and they don't save to their respective "normal" characters. Is this what the "don't wreck My Music code" does? Say, save Giga Bowser's records in Bowser's file?

 

[Thunderspam]

Glad you like it; I'll increase his speed and see how it looks. As for the size, I can pretty much make him any size we want. However, once the size is chosen, it has to stay that way, else all our hitboxes won't sync up properly. I personally like his kind of small size, but it's ultimately up to you.

Bummer about the Motion file. I'll hold off on any drastic animation changes for now then. I'll look into what Falco400 mentioned.

Regarding animations, I think he needs a new dash animation. The current one makes his movement kinda clunky, if you know what I mean.

Right right... Well, after messing around, I have grown accustomed to his size. So let's leave it alone. As for run animations, Primid doesn't have anymore. He has his walk animations (Used on walkslow and walkmiddle) and then his running animations (Used on Dash, run, and walkfast). Anyways, I fixed the clunkiness issue myself and made him a little bit faster.

I am going to get up off my lazy butt and finish his motion file this weekend, so I will let you know how that is. I also gave him a new Dsmash which looks kind of awesome. I will talk to you more about graphics and what not later though.

 

[ChozoBoy]

Are you still having problems with the walking? Couldn't you just throw in someone else's animation? Peach's skipping would be hillarious!

 

[Gazoinks]

Wow, this is an awesome project. I really hope it gets finished.

Is there a download that's newer than the one on page 9 or is it not really in working order yet?

Also, it would be awesome to replace each Alloy with a type of Primid. Then you could do SSE Multiman.

 

[Thunderspam]

Are you still having problems with the walking? Couldn't you just throw in someone else's animation? Peach's skipping would be hillarious!

Please read before asking questions. I have answered this like a bazillion times. PRIMID CANNOT USE OTHER CHARACTERS ANIMATIONS! He appears displaced. This can be clearly seen if you try to crouch with him, as the version I released uses Luigi's crouch. Not to mention it had nothing to do with the animation being used. This issue has been resolved though, and Primid can walk.

Wow, this is an awesome project. I really hope it gets finished.

Is there a download that's newer than the one on page 9 or is it not really in working order yet?

Also, it would be awesome to replace each Alloy with a type of Primid. Then you could do SSE Multiman.

That was just to let you guys mess around with Primid while I was out of commission. I am back in business now, much faster than I thought. Anyways, Primid doesn't have enough animations to qualify for one moveset, let alone four. Primid currently uses elements of all the other Primids (Ftilt is boomerang chop animation, Dtilt is a sword reflection, etc). I could piece together other attacks, but as I said above, it looks like crap.

 

[TCRhade]

Well I for one will be using this PAC a lot when it's finished!

Anyone gonna actually "main" the Primid? I might, along with Eldiran's badass Killable Giga Bowser (which I've wanted since hacks even surfaced)

 

[thanyou]

Here's the new version of Candle, I've finished him for a while I just didn't want to use the player 4 modifier code >.>

@ TCRhade

I'll kick your *** with my Primid >:D

 

[DeeNinjaa]

xD This is gonna be great. Wait. Custom animations came with the new BrawlBox. Might we be able to put those in? Thatll be pro. I seriously cannot wait for this.

 

[Thunderspam]

xD This is gonna be great. Wait. Custom animations came with the new BrawlBox. Might we be able to put those in? Thatll be pro. I seriously cannot wait for this.

Well the way Custom animations are set up are currently beyond me. I barely understand it, but I think it is just set positions for each bone per frame of animation, most likely using tweens. I have heard a little bit of talk about being able to view animations in the near future, so I might wait for that before I start dramatic changes to animations.

 

[freezinboi280]

wow i definately cant wait until this is finished!

 

[TCRhade]

@ TCRhade

I'll kick your *** with my Primid >:D

XD is that a challenge? I'd accept it if I had Wi-Fi!

 

[thanyou]

XD is that a challenge? I'd accept it if I had Wi-Fi!

DX That sucks, just come back once you do, I'll be waiting >:D

And on an unrelated note, here's the download for v2 of Candle, I neglected to post it before: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zrz0hmzryez

 

[TCRhade]

DX That sucks, just come back once you do, I'll be waiting >:D

Totally. I'll keep that in mind.

 

[leafbarrett]

x_x Is the downloadable one supposed to be all glitched out?

 

[luigiman1928]

Candle, dont know. The one TSpam realeased does;nt have any glitch when i go into MultiMan Brawl. None at ALL.

 

[Thunderspam]

The one I released is like v0.3. I am still not near finishing him. I am currently finishing all of his animations (Which isn't hard, I am just lazy), and then doing some move editing.

 

[Eldiran]

The one I released is like v0.3. I am still not near finishing him. I am currently finishing all of his animations (Which isn't hard, I am just lazy), and then doing some move editing.

You've got the project under control now, but do you want any help? I'd be glad to provide it, particularly for editing in PSA.

 

[wilttilt]

I suppose I will contribute my effort to make this a great project. Also... First Post on Smashboards!

Yes, I simply textured in eyes. Download link will be posted soon.

 

[LordshadowRagnarok]

Alright, I have a couple MagGuiver-esque suggestions that I have NO idea if they'll work or not, to solve some of your problems with using an alloy base.

Firstly, the ledge grabbing thing. Would it be possible to add ledge grabbing qualities to some of his attacks, like the qualities on a Zair, or on ZSS/Shiek's side-B?

Secondly, for the specials, if B can't be used, perhaps you could relegate them to some of the diagonal tilts (such as how Bowser's F-tilt can be angled up/down) and diagonal smashes (Such as Luigi's)

 

[luigiman1928]

Nao who would we replace on the menu to make Primid? .REL files tell the game what to load. And the Character select we can edit. So we can make Mario's Green Color load Red Alloy. Or, Primid.

 

[Arkaether]

Cute little things, ain't they. Thunderspam says he's too lazy to finish it, what a ***.

 

[Thunderspam]

You've got the project under control now, but do you want any help? I'd be glad to provide it, particularly for editing in PSA.

Yep yep, help is still appreciated. I am working on some stuff right now, but once I am done, I might send the PAC your way. If you are willing, here are a few things that I currently want done.

Up B
-If you could, just a standard recovery please and thank you. We can map out damage and what not at a later date. Just his first jump animation is fine. I don't want it to go into helpless either.

Up Smash
- For whatever reason I can't figure this out. I want his Up smash to launch him into the air a couple of feet. I can deal with the hit boxes myself.

Just let me finish some animation tweaks, since I should be able to finish everything in the next little while. Please and thanks.

Here is a little bit of Primid 0.4 action for you guys. He is fully playable, and should be able to handle lower level CPUs with ease (I can currently take on a level seven with him). Just download the files marked with todays dates, (Primid is his motion file, and the one called Primid Moves is his PAC file).

I personally am a fan of his quick powerful attacks, but I am going to have to nerf him a bit since he currently has the power of a rhino Red Alloy.

Current Known Glitches
-Occasionally freezes when tripping
-Occasionally freezes when landing using Fair
-Sometimes moves don't make any contact with targets (Rare)
-Cannot be thrown (The screen messes up for a second, but then goes back to normal)
-Several incorrect animations (Sleeping animations, grabbed animations, tripping animations, footstooling)

 

[Thunderspam]

Alright guys! As a happy Tuesday present, I got you all a video. It is Primid, NOT getting destroyed by a level 9 Sheik. It also has some really bad commentary by me! It also gets cut off! But you all know what Primid is about anyways, so just enjoy watching me pummel a level 3 Marth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bn9eTHygiQ

Also, who is the piss nugget creator of THIS video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_17AMsvhqY

It is nice that you like stealing other peoples work and all, but let me give you a few pointers here.

1. Ask for permission.
2. Credit me.
3. Don't use crappy music from a crappy game.
4. This is cool music for Primid, because I like dance mixes
5. At LEAST let me know that you are going to steal my stuff.

 

[ScoobyCafe]

It is nice that you like stealing other peoples work and all, but let me give you a few pointers here.

1. Ask for permission.
2. Credit me.
3. Don't use crappy music from a crappy game.
4. This is cool music for Primid, because I like dance mixes
5. At LEAST let me know that you are going to steal my stuff.

Youtube. People are going to swipe and upload videos, regardless of anything. Pay no attention to it, 'cause it really isn't a big deal.

That said, I'm really impressed with what you've done with the Primid so far. Great stuff.

 

[leafbarrett]

Candle, dont know. The one TSpam realeased does;nt have any glitch when i go into MultiMan Brawl. None at ALL.

I get a modelswap effect (it's stretched out to fit the Red Alloy's original shape, and floating in the air) and doing practically anything crashes the game.
Do I need to download every file?

 

[Thunderspam]

I get a modelswap effect (it's stretched out to fit the Red Alloy's original shape, and floating in the air) and doing practically anything crashes the game.
Do I need to download every file?

Yes, you do. You need to get FitZakoBoy.pac (Containing all his moves, also required to run), the FitZakoboy00.pac, the FitZakoboy00.pcs (Both are required to display the model), and finally, the most important piece, the FitZakoBoyMotion.pac. This will play all of his required animations.

 

[leafbarrett]

Yes, you do. You need to get FitZakoBoy.pac (Containing all his moves, also required to run), the FitZakoboy00.pac, the FitZakoboy00.pcs (Both are required to display the model), and finally, the most important piece, the FitZakoBoyMotion.pac. This will play all of his required animations.

Yeah, I realized that right after I said that... ^^;
Problem is, that just outright crashed the game. Maybe something went wrong... I'll try again.
EDIT: That worked! ...until the result screen.

 

[Thunderspam]

Yeah, I realized that right after I said that... ^^;
Problem is, that just outright crashed the game. Maybe something went wrong... I'll try again.
EDIT: That worked! ...until the result screen.

You need to have the fix for Alloys on the result screen, or else it will freeze since they have no losing animation. I might be able to avoid this using PSA, since they have the slot for the animation, but they don't have any animation in it.

 

[LordshadowRagnarok]

Hey, Thunderspam, you been able to work around the no ledge grabbing & no specials yet?

 

[krazyzyko]

Nice, try to mix up mario and luigi's moveset to adapt it to the primid, and please add some eye textures.

 

[Thunderspam]

Nice, try to mix up mario and luigi's moveset to adapt it to the primid, and please add some eye textures.

No to both.

 

[TCRhade]

Nice, try to mix up mario and luigi's moveset to adapt it to the primid, and please add some eye textures.

Don't you remember when he said that doing other characters' moves/animations distorted the Primid model?

And no one needs textures now. He's working on actually making the character functions properly.

 

[Thunderspam]

Special moves might be a total bust, but Eldrian, if you are still willing to help, can you make a test Up B for me? Just use the animation JumpF. I tried doing it myself, and it freezes on the CSS. I am not sure if it is my own incompetence, or if the game just won't accept it. You already have the PAC I am using, so if you could try that for me, that would be awesome.

 

[Eldiran]

Special moves might be a total bust, but Eldrian, if you are still willing to help, can you make a test Up B for me? Just use the animation JumpF. I tried doing it myself, and it freezes on the CSS. I am not sure if it is my own incompetence, or if the game just won't accept it. You already have the PAC I am using, so if you could try that for me, that would be awesome.

Certainly. I wasn't aware you hadn't made any changes to the .pac -- I'll give it a try.

 

[D.B.K.]

So, any luck getting specials to work?

 

[Eldiran]

Whelp, I gave it a go, and Alloy's specials cannot be used. Even having a Change Action 114 whn Up+B is pressed, and filling 114 with stuff doesn't work.

On the plus side, I can still change to other actions when Up+B is pressed, so giving Alloy a jump as his Up+B is very plausible.