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It hardly matters, because most of the time the ledge grab range lasts for longer than the time it takes you to roll up the ledge. You'll end up climbing up, they'll start falling, then grab the ledge anyway. It needs to be toned up from Brawl to be functional, even if it doesn't go as far as Melee.
I agree.
They'll think of it as a masterpiece when Smash 4 comes out which introduces air tripping, 60 frames of hitstop, and buffs Metaknight.
But of course Smash 4 will still have a large group of vocal supporters who will unleash an endless and irritating swath of posts in the Project: B thread.
lmao air tripping. sadly i can see that happening somehow? :S
Sad but probably true. Though I don't foresee anyone trying to make a Project B.
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- will not be non exist in PM. It would inconsistent to ignore it. And to those that might think that defensive playstyles should be removed as much as possible, especially if it is at all attached to brawl - defensively oriented characters should remain thus, just a defense that works in Melee physics... imo, especially if projectiles are a large part of their game.
Lmao best thing i've read all day xD
that's amazing.A great example of good game design.
Wait, what? Okay, so it might not work on Bowser or DK since they have hitboxes that stick around on their upBs, but surely there's still enough invincibility frames to edgehog Marth, or Falco, or Mario, or Zelda, or (you get the idea).
oh god i lol'd
see, thats the thing. if you get a dedicated competative community, a game will never die. thats why the companies need to stop focusing on the casuals so much. i didn't want to believe it for the longest time, but its true: cattering to cassual players doesn't means ****. casuals will play anything. its the competative people that keep the game alive.oh god i lol'd
but seriously, melee NEVER had the negative rep brawl had. I have a feeling it'll be dead as **** in 10 years
Tell that to Sakurai. Please T___T
too bad the companies (ESPECIALLY nintendo) dont CARE about keeping the game alive. they care about sales, so even if little jimmy played brawl for 1 week, he picked up the game, and thanks to him 9 million copies of barwl were sold.
Mario Kart says hi. Face it, casuals keep gaming companies alive. They can't focus on a small group of individuals and expect to grow as a company at the same time. I like the Smash community and the people here that are catering to Melee players, but you can't honestly expect Nintendo to just focus on you guys and not move on to bigger and more important things.
if there wasn't a competative melee scene the game would have died off as soon as brawl came out. why would a casual play a game thats inherently harder to get good at? same can apply to games ont eh 360. look at halo reach; the populationf ro the game has been going down steadily since launch. the main complaint is that the game is too gimicky comapred to its successors. brawl is still alive because it has a competative community backing it. if the game was just casuals, then what would be the incentive to play it on a regular basis? face it, catering to a casual gaming audience means that the game is intended to be played by people who don't play offten anyway. how can you hope to keep a game alive when you make it for peopel that throw them away within a week?
Considering they've catered to both casuals and competitive players at the same time (the latter on accident), I don't see why that's a problem at all. That's why Brawl is such a pain to look at compared to its predecessors for many; it blatantly and unnecessarily cut out the competitive players despite how little the casual players would care.
I don't play Halo, but I know for a fact that people play the game because it's fun and not for the competitive aspect of it most of the time. If a game get's too focused on the hardcore, then you just end up with Virtua Fighter. The best fighter out right now, but with little to no one to play it with because the game is only for the most hardcore of hardcore players.
What would Diddy's bananas be without it?
Street Fighter 4 has attacks that have the potential to cause dizzies. Attack based tripping should is a move property, not a detriment to any universal mechanic. The randomness for attack-influenced tripping can be modified, and if you end up getting tripped from an attack it is your own fault for getting hit in the first place.
contrary to popular belief, the community for halo reach is less than that of halo 3 at this point. there just isn't the draw to play it as much a the other due to a combination fof gimmicky mechanichs amd a lack of a real skill measuring system. the best games focus on the hardcore, but are easy enough for new people to pick up and play without having too much gimmicky BS in the mix. melee was too far hardocre in some aspects in that was near impossible to play well at all without substantial practice. brawl, is far too gimmicky, even though its both easy to pick up and has actual character depth (it does. brawl has more character-spefici techs. get over it). if brawl was too easy to pick up and lacked any real depth as far as character mechanics go, you can bet that it would be dropped almost instantly as there's no reason for dedicated gamers to keep playing. yes, it would be funny to pull out at parties, but unless you're ****ing partying every day the game would see very little action. casual interface gets people to play, competative atmosphere keeps them in.
Very out of place...in a Smash Game!? Unless you haven't removed footstooling entirely, I'd say that doesn't make very much sense. It was a move trait that made certain moves better for poking, Mario's down strong attack isn't really a very good move for poking, but given the chance that it can open the opponent up for a charged smash, players might take the risk.
