JCaesar
Smash Hero
Jumping to conclusions, blowing little things out of proportion, getting trolled hardcore by an obvious alt account ... man, last night in this thread sure looks like it was fun.
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Project M Social Thread
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hotdogturtle
Smash Master
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...Are you serious? I'm sorry to say this, but you guys are honestly starting to sound like those types of noobs who play the game for the first time ever and call Jigglypuff "cheap" because "omg she can kill you in 1 hit!!!"
Having Rest is just part of Jigglypuff's character. It's supposed to be an extremely strong, easy kill move, in exchange for 2 seconds of immobility if you miss in addition to Jigglypuff's light weight. And I find it dumb how nobody cared about Jigglypuff for so many years, and then all of a sudden 2 players start bringing her to top tournament level and people start whining that she's "broken".
Edit: I forgot to type my main point. Nerfing Jigglypuff's Rest or bair and not any other character's move is the single worst idea I've heard proposed in this whole thread.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I'm pretty sure one of our stated goals is to leave the Melee top tiers alone and bring everyone else up to their level.
Bottom line, don't take everything you hear in this thread as gospel, even from backroomers, unless it's Shanus.
Bottom line, don't take everything you hear in this thread as gospel, even from backroomers, unless it's Shanus.
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
And even then, it's subject to change.
Hellsinglover999
Smash Journeyman
um i atleast hope they dont nerf anything till after you get to the balanceing stage
ICHIGOBLEACH
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yeah i did pretty good methinks
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Hella.
I'm fairly sure that if we decided to nerf Jigglypuff, nobody would forgive us. Not to mention that it goes against the project's goal. Not gonna happen.
jalued
Smash Lord
i would forgive you if rest came out on frame 2 instead of frame 1
no one would notice anyway 
Hellsinglover999
Smash Journeyman
pretty sure thats not what they mean. they would probibly lower the knockback to take a bit higher to killi would forgive you if rest came out on frame 2 instead of frame 1
jalued
Smash Lord
the sad fact about jigglypuff is that even without a rest, she would still be very very good. Her Bair creates a wall that if done correctly, is impassable. Her physics are her best friend tbh, that and her air maneuverability. These things we cannot change
I know its too soon to talk about balance, but i think that jiggly is almost impossible to balance:
reducing damage on her moves would mean she can combo into rest for longer
increasing damage would mean she can get people offstage faster
reducing knockback would mean she can combo better
increasing knockback would mean she can edgeguard better
nerfing rest would only make her worse in teams, she still has her bair which is broken.
reducing bair hitbox size would change jiggly spacing and change her melee feel.
the only real way is to make her lighter, so that she dies earlier, but even that still means she is even harder to combo
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Eh, time for a new topic I think. Jiggs won't be changed.
So, what will DK's playstyle be like when you guys are done with him? More similar to 64, Melee or Brawl?
jalued
Smash Lord
mistake post
Sterowent
Smash Ace
sorry, NoE is taking its time in translating it. no release for you guys until next june, sadly!
i hear it's because MK's accent caused some controversy. but i don't think it's so bad. it's not as bad as, say, ganon's skin tone at least, yeah?
i hear it's because MK's accent caused some controversy. but i don't think it's so bad. it's not as bad as, say, ganon's skin tone at least, yeah?
it's in closed alpha, man.
ok your an idiot no use arguing with you but I'm bored so I'll leave you with food for thought
1-jiggs isn't OP in singles, there are 3 top jiggs players and mango hardly plays her, save for teams
2-falco's lasers are a good save too, but he's nowhere near as good as jiggs in teams. Can his lasers chase you below the stage to save you? honestly why did you even bring them up? jiggs is way to good at saves
3-ahh just resets? cool story bro
4-in doubles she has all of her options to rest people that she has in singles so why bring that up
5-she doesn't need to read **** if your partners there to help you get rests as: one grab=rest, they can wake you up if you miss(not really much time to punish in teams anyway ie. ganons not gonna get that warlock punch in), and they(as well as your opponents) can send people into the air for extremely easy rest set ups
and a quote from m2k on teams
"Fox Puff is god, and Mango thinks Puff should be banned in teams (I am not joking, he said that to me in person at Apex).
Fox Fox might be the 2nd best, maybe, or a different team with a Puff"
from this thread http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=283109&page=2
ok you lose now
You *******. You're stingers arent you...?yeah i did pretty good methinks
stingers
Smash Obsessed
wtf redhal? i have literally never talked to you and only know your name through results threads
**** I got rapppeeeeddddd.
Im down for a MM at pound 5 though I like Sheik dittos
If it had been you I would be proud.
Revven
FrankerZ
Stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/p-m-smashmac
Password: smaymaypm2
Remember, anything you see in a stream is subject to change and may be WIP.
Password: smaymaypm2
Remember, anything you see in a stream is subject to change and may be WIP.
ICHIGOBLEACH
Smash Apprentice
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sorry I'm not stingers
but you're not the first one to think this haha
but you're not the first one to think this haha
Dan_X
Smash Lord
^^ lol.
10lawls. BTW guys... PM stages are AMAZING!
10lawls. BTW guys... PM stages are AMAZING!
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genkaku
Guest
Yeah, stages are one of the biggest appeals PM has.
humble
Smash Ace
Why hasn't this guy been infracted/banned yet? Seriously, this post is literally him admitting to flaming and trolling people.yeah i did pretty good methinks
ZeroUnderOne
Smash Apprentice
Anyone else notice something weird about the left side of the water/forest version of pokemon stadium 1? There is a small slant there that sends falco flying off the edge to his death if he lands an aerial on it.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Let's get the thread back on track please instead of giving attention to trolls.
Who's playing on the livestream? I'm at work so I can't watch.
Who's playing on the livestream? I'm at work so I can't watch.
ICHIGOBLEACH
Smash Apprentice
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I admit nothing!
you're the wall of text guy!
and the guy who wanted to take out shield grabs
surely that's worse than me
also someone said falco's recovery was worse in a melee thread. did you really make it even worse?
shanus
Smash Hero
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No, its because the end doesn't preserve momentum in brawl and needs to be added in manually. Stop writing in accusations, its incredibly annoying, especially when you are ignorant on the subject.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
it is, actually...
humble
Smash Ace
In Melee, Falco's Up-B preserved momentum and his Side-B didn't. In Brawl, it was the opposite, so they have to change it manually, and just haven't gotten to it yet.ICHIGOBLEACH said:
Personal attacks, cool story bro.
I'm on my itouch so I can't check, but I'm curious as well; how goes the livestream? Who is on?
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
did you seriously suggest removing shield grabs?
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Anth0ny
Smash Master
I R MarF
Smash Ace
I forgot who said it, but someone in the stream chat room was saying that true spikes cannot be coded (or something along those lines) is this true? Will C. Falcon, Falco, Marth, etc. not be getting spikes?
Falcon never had a spike
and good progress on the Melee fox vertex but clearly it could still use some finishing touches. i know vertex can be tough but even the colors are a bit off and need some shading. awesome job tho hope for a revamp ^^
EDIT: oh it is AGFan's texture. my bad.
and good progress on the Melee fox vertex but clearly it could still use some finishing touches. i know vertex can be tough but even the colors are a bit off and need some shading. awesome job tho hope for a revamp ^^
EDIT: oh it is AGFan's texture. my bad.
Sterowent
Smash Ace
falcon did have a spike. he had a meteor and a spike on his dair, as far as i know
jalued
Smash Lord
spikes in melee:
marth's dair (ntsc)
falco's dair
ganon's down B
falcon's nipple spike
roy's upsmash (for some reason)
TommyDerMeister
Smash Lord
Edit: Slow internet.
And as far as i remember Roy's spike had to be a tippered usmash for it to spike
And as far as i remember Roy's spike had to be a tippered usmash for it to spike
jalued
Smash Lord
yep, so its not possible to code i hear?
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