Project M Social Thread

[bubbaking]

Lolz, I wish...

 

[Kink-Link5]

Really excited for 2.5 Zard. Also really hoping Nair is 100% identical to 2.1 if the animation doesn't start lower than in 2.1. Wrap around Nair hitting upward is one of the move's best traits.

 

[DMG]

Ken playing Melee is hype to watch

 

[Kink-Link5]

It's funny just seeing everyone in his pool standing around waiting in line to play Ken.

 

[trash?]

Someone should get Ken to play P:M. Are there any setups that could do it there?

 

[cmart]

What I heard had nothing to do with decay. It had to do with the precision with which the arrows could be guided...

I really don't want to set out specific details... yet. But I will say that arrows were buffed, not nerfed. Feel free to speculate.

 

[bubbaking]

Yay, a bone to chew on...

#FeedUsMoreYou!

 

[DrinkingFood]

Magus was more than happy to provide plenty of "leaks" about Lucario for us XD

 

[leafbarrett]

So, who's hyped for what exactly?

Personally, I'm hyped to have more characters available. Especially Squirtle and Ivysaur.

 

[iLink]

Magus was more than happy to provide plenty of "leaks" about Lucario for us XD

Elaborate please?

 

[bubbaking]

I'm just glad they decided to release the very two characters I was actually pumped and waiting for (other than Samus). After playing the developer's version a couple weeks back, I declared that I was gonna be an all-out Pokemon trainer, including Luke and barring Pika and Jiggs. Add Pit, Mario, ROB, and maybe Ike and Snake to that list and you have a really flexible roster. If Samus actually gets released as well, that just makes my lineup even better.

Edit: Oh, and Sheik too! Can't forget about her.

Elaborate please?

http://www.smashmods.com/forum/thread-4024-post-109507.html#pid109507

It's not really a big deal, tbh. A lot of the stuff were things I'd already predicted or had observed from playing the developer's version. It's nothing major that they were trying to hide, I'm sure.

 

[Life]

Trick to getting PMBR to leak: Insult their work

Nice, haha.

 

[Yobolight]

Yall should give snake back his old DACUS.

 

[9Kplus1]

Snake still has a usable DACUS

 

[Hylian]

I'm excited for IC's honestly. I feel like they won't come out for awhile, but I want to do crazy things with them.

 

[Archangel]

Melee was so hyped today. I haven't really payed much attention to it outside of Events it's shared with PM these past few months. But that hype....We really need to get that hype in Project M. If you suck stop playing on stream and making PM look bad .

Also....I'm not completely sure about 2.5 but...we really need Falco's that can do what Dr.Pee Pee and Mango can do. That Grandfinals Set didn't look like it was played by men but by Gods.

 

[SpiderMad]

Yes, and I swear Mango meteor cancelled PP's side-b somewhere on the last or so battle on left side of Yoshis Story using his unkept power, even though I thought it was a spike while Fox's was the meteor, I didn't see any tech on Randall,and his damage was around 100.

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/b/339231930
3:53:49 or so

Guess it's a meteor

 

[B.W.]

I wish there were more Falco players in P:M, but it seems that everyone is more attracted to other characters because they've been re-vamped or are new.

Can't blame them for that though.

 

[JOE!]

Well yeah, it's a choice between something that's been around for 11ish years, or a new shiny... there's a more popular option here

 

[Archangel]

I wish there were more Falco players in P:M, but it seems that everyone is more attracted to other characters because they've been re-vamped or are new.

Can't blame them for that though.

Well yeah, it's a choice between something that's been around for 11ish years, or a new shiny... there's a more popular option here

Actually that's not the reason. At least as of 2.1 because of the differences in the mechanics you simply can't play like that with Falco. Hell...I don't think you can play like that with anyone in PM. That **** was like....wtf crazy.

Hopefully 2.5 will bring us 1 step closer. I can't wait for Melee shielding to be implemented somehow...some way....Brawl shields really hold back PM in the most nagging of ways....idk. High level melee excites me. It also makes me feel like dropping PM for Melee again.....which if I'm feeling that way thousands of others might as well and...that's a bad thing...lol.

 

[Perfect Chaos]

Even if P:M can implement just two levels of shields (regular and the lightest [i.e. equivalent to holding Z in Melee]), as opposed to multiple varying degrees of light shields, then it'll be a huge improvement. We already have two different input levels for the shoulder buttons, afterall, so it's already a step towards this particular idea.

 

[leelue]

I don't see it as a big deal at all
And considering the massive improvements we have in pm, the fact that we have people that want to play their game with 5-6 viable characters, worse stages, worse music choices, and no sonic simply because the shields are somewhat different or some other minuscule nonsense is mind boggling.
Utterly

 

[bubbaking]

I'm excited for IC's honestly. I feel like they won't come out for awhile, but I want to do crazy things with them.

I feel like it would be very hard to balance them, especially after all this work to make sure that grabs don't last forever. What are they gonna do, eliminate wobbling and IC CG's? That's basically a lot of the ICs right there.

Also....I'm not completely sure about 2.5 but...we really need Falco's that can do what Dr.Pee Pee and Mango can do. That Grandfinals Set didn't look like it was played by men but by Gods.

You mean we need a Falco design in P:M that can do what a Falco in Melee could do.

Yes, and I swear Mango meteor cancelled PP's side-b somewhere on the last or so battle on left side of Yoshis Story using his unkept power, even though I thought it was a spike while Fox's was the meteor, I didn't see any tech on Randall,and his damage was around 100.

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/b/339231930
3:53:49 or so

Guess it's a meteor

Lolz, only Falco Phantasm is a meteor (and it's a meteor, not a spike). Fox Illusion doesn't even send you downwards. It pops you up.

Even if P:M can implement just two levels of shields (regular and the lightest [i.e. equivalent to holding Z in Melee]), as opposed to multiple varying degrees of light shields, then it'll be a huge improvement. We already have two different input levels for the shoulder buttons, afterall, so it's already a step towards this particular idea.

Something that I would actually like more than that is the ability to WD OoS normally with the double trigger method. As of now, it's only possible if you light shield with one trigger while WDing with the other, and that's hella hard to do consistently in the middle of a match.

 

[Archangel]

I don't see it as a big deal at all
And considering the massive improvements we have in pm, the fact that we have people that want to play their game with 5-6 viable characters, worse stages, worse music choices, and no sonic simply because the shields are somewhat different or some other minuscule nonsense is mind boggling.
Utterly

it's not just that.....and 2.5 seems to be much better but it's not out and I haven't played it so all i can speak of is 2.1 which is the public version everyone has seen and played.

2.1 has more viable characters but it's speed, fluidity, control, and technicality is just not on par with Melee. Also 5-6 Viable characters Is kind of Untrue. It's more like 11-12.

Anyway...I'm hoping 2.5 offers more of that technical feeling and less of that janky McJankerton. From what I've seen I already feel that will be the case.

 

[JCaesar]

Spam Arrows why don't you swing by next weekend? http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=329299

It's a 2.1 tourney but you can try out 2.5.

 

[DrinkingFood]

IMO, I think the next mechanic change PMBR should work on is shield pushback. I feel that it affects my abilities as a Falco main more than the other technical nuances like the physics delay or landing detection (although those will be nice when they are changed as well )

 

[bubbaking]

I definitely understand some people who'd rather stick with Melee for now. One of our former best Melee players at SBU saw me playing P:M v2.1 at a Smash/FG fest we were both at and he said that he feels like people still live way too long, which slows down the game, and games were still taking longer than 4 minutes regularly. I don't see anything wrong with living, if it's for the right reasons, but I could see what he was hinting at. P:M isn't as fast-paced and fluid as Melee quite yet. That said, we should all be aware that 2.5 will fix a lot of these issues and further demos will fix even more.

 

[JOE!]

Bubba, wasn't this argument done to death already?

Melee matches feel faster cus it's almost always: A spacy, Sheik, Marf, Jiggs

All can kill and be killed pretty quickly by each other

 

[ELI-mination]

Matches with spacies or Sheik actually feel a lot more boring to me than other "slower character" matches

 

[Shadow Huan]

pikachu's Thunder attack needs a buff

just saying it doesn't kill at all right now.

i lived up to like 200% against a cpu pika who was spamming it

and all i did was DI up

quite weak for a lightning bolt

also apologies for the current status of the first match in the Ft10, if anyone uploads a video to youtube and is given the option to "fix a shaky video", don't go with it. made match one shaky like it's rippling water rather than "fixing" it

 

[9Kplus1]

You're saying that vBrawl Thunder in a Melee-esque environment needs a power buff? The audacity of some people...

 

[Shadow Huan]

You're saying that vBrawl Thunder in a Melee-esque environment needs a power buff? The audacity of some people...

as it is the only way it's gonna kill anything is if you DI DOWN

how is that NOT a problem?

it's not like i lived till 200% on Dreamland 64 or Metal Cavern either... it was on Yoshi's Story: Melee. as Fox. on the ground (where the strongest hitbox is)

so a "kill move" that doesn't kill unless your opponent has no idea what DI is isn't a problem?

and I'M the audacious one?

 

[Revven]

Who even uses Pikachu's Down B on the ground against a serious opponent? Its main use is for vertical KOs after Usmash if it's not the proper KO % for Usmash. Sounds like a really pointless thing to "buff". =\

 

[Shadow Huan]

ehhhh i'll concede that lol

but you have to remember that not everyone who will be playing this will be "serious" about it.

pretty sure that this is supposed to appeal to casuals as well right?

i have a whole seperate rant/story about ganondorf/a casual gamer lmao

 

[BJN39]

This is the glitch I mentioned a while back. see her dress? Is that possible to fix? I know this exists in P:M 2.1

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

What the hell kind of casual do you know that knows or cares about DI? Let alone how exactly a move kills?

 

[B.W.]

Moves don't get buffed or altered to give casuals a good move to use/spam. Moves get buffed or altered for competitive play. You can't go tweaking a character to cater to both audiences, that's impossible.

Casuals don't care about tiers. They normally don't even know about the existence of DI. Casuals still pick Kirby in Melee. They may also beat their casual friends with Kirby in Melee because they're casual.

 

[cannedbread]

hips don't lie

KAMEHAMEHA

also hyrule temple

cave of life

tech everything

 

[Shadow Huan]

well my argument was sort of a straw man anyways

whatever, i suppose it'd get tweaked if upsmash-thunder stopped working



anyways Zelda stuff lol

 

[Spoon~]

That hitbox is quite the glitch