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Project M Social Thread
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OmegaMuffin
Smash Journeyman
Yoshi's Island: Brawl as an Ivy:M counterpick stages. I'm callin it now
Whimsical Support Ghost doesn't come up fast enough for it to be more useful than a lot of characters. Besides, D-Air only helps you float a great deal on the first use. It's much more useful for Peach or a space animal (Shine).
Oh wow never thought of that
that makes Ivy kinda ridiculous on Brinstar I guess
does it also heal ?
With Brinstars platforms you would probably be able to get a full charge and 15 % healing in like 2 seconds
I'm not sure if I want that to be honest
But yeah you can ban it
and Brinstar is not even legal in most stage lists
so it's no problem
but I kinda want to do that now lol
Match-up vs Ivysaur on Brinstar to be the first truly broken matchup in smash
that makes Ivy kinda ridiculous on Brinstar I guess
does it also heal ?
With Brinstars platforms you would probably be able to get a full charge and 15 % healing in like 2 seconds
I'm not sure if I want that to be honest
But yeah you can ban it
and Brinstar is not even legal in most stage lists
so it's no problem
but I kinda want to do that now lol
Match-up vs Ivysaur on Brinstar to be the first truly broken matchup in smash
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
If it's like Lucas' Offense Up smashes, then I assume the effect works on contact with anything. Kind of funny when you can destroy objects in SSE with USmash spam and just keep blasting away.
Life
Smash Hero
Or you could be bringing your Wii to tournaments, gathering a ridiculous number of names, and then requiring players with new names to scroll down a mile and a half for their name, as I had the experience of doing the last time I played Melee.
JCz I assumed all reflects were the same. Thanks.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Such is life for the newbie shoobie. They must all suffer the scroll.
Although what I'm really curious about is why the hell you can't just go to the top and bottom of the list immediately.
Although what I'm really curious about is why the hell you can't just go to the top and bottom of the list immediately.
OmegaMuffin
Smash Journeyman
Gurukid should just be banned in all tournament rulesets.
Honestly, now that I'm thinking about it, the one glide thing doesn't seem all that bad. You shouldn't be gliding out so far that you can't come back anyway and if you did then there's a good chance your opponent won't be able to come back either.
Honestly, now that I'm thinking about it, the one glide thing doesn't seem all that bad. You shouldn't be gliding out so far that you can't come back anyway and if you did then there's a good chance your opponent won't be able to come back either.
I instantly thought that he is now a more interesting character when I saw him actually recover with his jumps and upb in a stream after killing someone with his glide + fair.
It's not like characters that have to use their up special to grab the ledge instantly suck
and his on-stage game seems to be quite a lot better now
I approve of these changes '-'
/e now let's discuss ivysaur on YI:B and Brinstar
requesting an ivysaur ditto on Brinstar for the next stream
It's not like characters that have to use their up special to grab the ledge instantly suck
and his on-stage game seems to be quite a lot better now
I approve of these changes '-'
/e now let's discuss ivysaur on YI:B and Brinstar
requesting an ivysaur ditto on Brinstar for the next stream
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Making Pit's glides significantly shorter would have been a much more acceptable nerf to his recovery without also changing a large part of his on-stage game. The only conclusion to be drawn is that the team felt his on-stage game was too strong and safe, and that it needed to be less strong and safe.
Whether a character's key safe options being removed is a nerf or not is a matter of opinion.
I guess.
Whether a character's key safe options being removed is a nerf or not is a matter of opinion.
I guess.
Archangel
Smash Hero
Well After seeing all the available stream footage of pit it looks like his moves have more frame safety. Specifically his aerials.
On thing I did mention about pit was that he was designed for defense first and offense as a secondary action. Meaning because he lacked frame safe moves he had to play defensive specifically against those with massive frame advantage on him and sometimes even against people who were just powerful and able to tank his hits and kill him. His overall design suggests run away and attack only when it's safe which is what most pit players do to some extent. Arrow, Arrow, Arrow,Arrow Spam_arrows(pun intended). Now, He seems to have the emphasis taken off running away and getting to a safe place to set his offense up. Now he seems geared for actually going into the the kitchen and getting a sandwich.
I've been testing out potential combos that may work in 2.5 Basically trying to find what would still work minus without having the glide.
wat
for which on-stage actions does he need more than one glide
I don't count way-above-stage as on-stage, if you're referring to stuff GuruKid did
that stuff also wouldn't be safe on like half the characters
while apparently it was on some characters
which is not good game design
also you're exaggerating so much :V
Could you please tell me which "key safe options" of pit require more than one glide ? this is a serious question
or whatever a "key safe option" of Pit was
for which on-stage actions does he need more than one glide
I don't count way-above-stage as on-stage, if you're referring to stuff GuruKid did
that stuff also wouldn't be safe on like half the characters
while apparently it was on some characters
which is not good game design
also you're exaggerating so much :V
Could you please tell me which "key safe options" of pit require more than one glide ? this is a serious question
or whatever a "key safe option" of Pit was
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Nerfing glide makes his weaving game suffer more than anything. His general offensive game is more rewarding, and he will feel more entertaining for both the Pit player and his opponent.
Life
Smash Hero
If pit is hit out of onstage glide, does he still lose the second glide? If not, that's a buff, because onstage glide is now usable for things that aren't b-reversing.
hotdogturtle
Smash Master
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People need to stop making assumptions based on a single video stream when they don't know the changed mechanics behind what they saw.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
I think the comprehensive number of changes on a whole are ridiculously hard to theory smash about in general. Most theory smash on stuff that's already playable and testable is already sketch to begin with.
`dazrin
Smash Champion
stingers
Smash Obsessed
good work =] thats a nice fix...
Stevo
Smash Champion
awesome
2.5 is going to be great
2.5 is going to be great
I want to 'like' this post a thousand times.
You could just be a man and tech spikes via proper DI and going to the right stages.
Still, this should help bad recoveries a whole lot.
Still, this should help bad recoveries a whole lot.
RedGamer
Smash Ace
whoa ledge techs! did project m make the computers smart?
leelue
Smash Lord
I like the picture more than the tech
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
I get the feeling that the use of Ike for this demonstration was intentional.
Might be just me.
Might be just me.
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
Well I hosted a fest back in September and recorded some videos. I made a thread consisting of the video footage so if anybody wants to see it, it's on smashmods. Here's the link:
http://www.smashmods.com/forum/thread-5443-post-103003.html#pid103003
http://www.smashmods.com/forum/thread-5443-post-103003.html#pid103003
This should be in the thread title too.
drsusredfish
Smash Ace
aww man just relized i missed my que for the over 9000 revisions thing 
its 9007 right now
its 9007 right now
Just a concept I had thought of a while back, has the PMBR ever brought up making Zelda's Fsmash angle-able?
drsusredfish
Smash Ace
oh god that would cause all sorts of havoc in this community
JediKnightTemplar
Smash Lord
I don't even know if that's really necessary. Zelda already seems to be pretty solid. She's no spacie, but she's still pretty good.
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
cannedbread
Smash Lord
what about warilol
Shadow Huan
Smash Champion
so i was playing P:M with a few people from my old melee crew last night, we got some replays, it's gonna be a bit before i get them uploaded tho.
i might've found a hiccup on Pokemon Stadium/Melee as Bowser, it was recorded so i'll post the video once i get it up
i might've found a hiccup on Pokemon Stadium/Melee as Bowser, it was recorded so i'll post the video once i get it up
Life
Smash Hero
My first thought also. "Hey look an Ike nerf"
stingers
Smash Obsessed
I heard ike wasnt receiving any nerfs.
which is ridiculous if true.
just cater to the community please =[
which is ridiculous if true.
just cater to the community please =[
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
Never met an Ike I couldn't beat with a non-Ike character. Just sayin.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
You've only met 1 Ike...
Stevo
Smash Champion
Ike is all you need
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
I've only met 1 Ike that is considered good enough to place high in tournies, yea. But I've played plenty of other people who use Ike. All with varying levels of skill.
But you're right, so....
OPEN CHALLENGE TO ALL IKES
Come get ***** by me please
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