Project M Social Thread

[SpiderMad]

What specifically was or felt wrong with your controller though? Did the control stick just feel off at the time, but felt normal the next day?

 

[bubbaking]

#locatingthesourceofjohns

 

[hotdogturtle]

What do people think about the Link vs. Fox matchup?

 

[DrinkingFood]

Ike wins that one.

 

[PGH Carroll]

you damn right he does

IKEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[bubbaking]

He sure does.

On a serious note, that MU might be pretty close to even, but I don't play either of these chars, so don't mind me too much.

 

[ELI-mination]

What do people think about the Link vs. Fox matchup?

Fox wins, but not even close to as bad as it was in melee

#FoxIsWayBetterThanIke

 

[DrinkingFood]

This just in, new IKE technique
we're calling it the dashslash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KlwohkWUi4&feature=player_detailpage
Ike for god tier, just look at that guy's moves

 

[bubbaking]

Eruption = Volcano Thrust

Can that guy ever WD twice consecutively?

 

[DMG]

His Fair should be Jungle Wilderness Stick Slash of Bush Mongering

Fox beats Link no surprise Fox closes the gap quick, shine for projectiles, Shine again will dunk his recovery, and Lasers can force camping Link to approach

Not as bad as Melee's MU but there's no way it's even at all.

 

[GHNeko]

What stages would bring the MU as close to even as possible? :V

My guess is Skyworld. That stage just screams anti-spacie.

 

[DrinkingFood]

I found this hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o8yWSmkMMQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=486s
Also, I was very satisfied with the conclusion of this video.

 

[DMG]

I'd assume most smaller stages Link would get poopoo'd on because he wouldn't have very much room to space. Huuuuge stages though he'd probably lose to M2K style laser and run Fox. Probably something like BF or something platformed.

Edit: Kage dramatically turning and then quietly saying "Brawl destroys Families" got me SO hard lool "Lucario kills families"

 

[Kirk]

Vro posts about it in the Chicago-land Melee Facebook group, you should try joining or asking someone to invite you! It's a long drive from Arlington Heights because of traffic though, it took me ~1.5 hrs to get there whenever I came from Buffalo Grove.

I don't use facebook, so that could be an issue! Where in Chicago is it? I'm not in Action Heights anymore, I'm up in Waukegan...which would probably put me further away if anything...

 

[GHNeko]

Stop being an outcast Kirk.

- Love, local smash communities.

 

[Vkrm]

LACK OF ZUBAZ


I lol at "post traumatic MK dizziness"

 

[hotdogturtle]

This just in, new IKE technique
we're calling it the dashslash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KlwohkWUi4&feature=player_detailpage
Ike for god tier, just look at that guy's moves

We also have the side-A, the side-down, the strong-up...

 

[GHNeko]

leave the guy alone guys lol

 

[DMG]

Not like he'd randomly be in this thread anyways.

 

[hotdogturtle]

Is shanus lurking this thread? If anyone has a laptop at the hotel I'll see if I can give a status update later today.

 

[GHNeko]

most of the PMBR members don't show their face in this thread.

if you wanna contact shanus, it'd be best to PM him on smods.

 

[PGH Carroll]

I want banned from PM tourneys.

I heard this is a thing?

Hook me up

 

[wangsterbaiter]

Great mod! Can anyone Dash Dance with Ganon? It doesn't work for me.

Edit: Realized when I changed a texture I also changed his moveset. Got it working now.

 

[MaxThunder]

i'm pretty sure i can, yeah...

 

[bubbaking]

First, double check that it is Project M, and not vBrawl, that you are playing. If it is indeed P:M, then I'm not sure what your problem is. Just dash back and forth at moderate speed (there's no maximum speed to DD). If you enter skid, then do it faster.

 

[metroid1117]

Great mod! Can anyone Dash Dance with Ganon? It doesn't work for me.

Ganon's dash dance isn't that good anyway, so first try doing it fast and then try finding when the run animation starts.

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

What do people think about the Link vs. Fox matchup?

Fox is a pain when he plays aggressive, fortunately my friend thinks the defensive Fox works lol but when he gets aggressive you have to be very careful, you screw up on keeping Fox at a good distance and you're screwed, and it tough because he's so fast, Fox definitely has the advantage but I've been playing the matchup so long that I've stopped dash dancing and whatnot because those lazers across FD don't let me

Is shanus lurking this thread? If anyone has a laptop at the hotel I'll see if I can give a status update later today.

Yea kid lemme know I might be able to stop by, what city in MA is it?

 

[bubbaking]

But what about that Marth range combined with those Marth juggles? I'm willing to say that Link's grounded moves are just as fast as Marth's, too.

 

[ELI-mination]

Fest today @ my place

So far Gallo and Gurukid are on their way
More coming maybe:
Leelue
Bubbaking
maybe others

We'll record some replays I suppose

#EliIsTheMetagame

 

[DMG]

I dunno about that comparison. They might have comparable range or speed on certain attacks, but overall quite different. Marth has tools that make fighting Fox easier, one key difference being mobility. Link on offense and defense is not a swift guy. Marth covers enough ground in both scenarios to help him deal with Fox camping/approaching. It's much easier to bait out the Nair with dash dance and grab it with Marth for example, or Fox that's laser camping you run at him and cover mucho ground.


Actual attack wise, Link doesn't have a comparable Fair and he doesn't get the benefit of sword for Nair + Bair which are probably his 2 most likeliest aerials to be tossing out. Tilt wise they might be about the same, maybe small edge to Marth his Dtilt and Utilt may have better range or faster (along with the huge Utilt arc). Marth's overall ground game is much smoother than Link's and his projectiles aren't that effective at zoning/camping for this MU where as for the regular MU he can control quite a bit of ground/short air areas.

 

[JCaesar]

I got permission from VGBootcamp to upload the matches from PMS II, so expect those to finally go up within the next few days. They'll be on my youtube channel. Sorry it took so long everybody.

 

[bubbaking]

Fest today @ my place

So far Gallo and Gurukid are on their way
More coming maybe:
Leelue
Bubbaking
maybe others

We'll record some replays I suppose

#EliIsTheMetagame

Headin' out in a couple minutes.

I dunno about that comparison. They might have comparable range or speed on certain attacks, but overall quite different. Marth has tools that make fighting Fox easier, one key difference being mobility. Link on offense and defense is not a swift guy. Marth covers enough ground in both scenarios to help him deal with Fox camping/approaching. It's much easier to bait out the Nair with dash dance and grab it with Marth for example, or Fox that's laser camping you run at him and cover mucho ground.

True, but from my experience in the Marth:Fox MU, Marth has a bit of trouble in CQC. He lacks good OoS options, like a sex kick or an upB, both of which Link has. Marth can definitely space better than Link can, but I think Link can get out of tight spots better without getting nair/drillshined into oblivion.

Actual attack wise, Link doesn't have a comparable Fair and he doesn't get the benefit of sword for Nair + Bair which are probably his 2 most likeliest aerials to be tossing out. Tilt wise they might be about the same, maybe small edge to Marth his Dtilt and Utilt may have better range or faster (along with the huge Utilt arc). Marth's overall ground game is much smoother than Link's and his projectiles aren't that effective at zoning/camping for this MU where as for the regular MU he can control quite a bit of ground/short air areas.

Well, to be fair, I only said that their grounded moves were comparable. I'm well aware that Marth is much faster in the aerial department. Marth's utilt doesn't really cover more space than Link's and I don't think it's faster, either. They just have different arcs, causing them to cover different areas of space effectively. I kinda like Link's utilt arc more, 'cause of how completely it covers his body. His bair and nair may not be sword attacks, but they're really fast pressure-relieving moves that help out a lot in a pinch. All this said, I'm not disputing anything you said, and I'd definitely believe that this MU is in Fox's favor.

 

[bubbaking]

Argh! Double post!

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

I'm willing to say that Link's grounded moves are just as fast as Marth's, too.

lol no, Marth's Forward-smash >>> all Link's ground moves

 

[Yung Mei]

lol no, Marth's Forward-smash >>> all Link's ground moves

i laughed harder at this than i shouldve

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

i laughed harder at this than i shouldve

You don't think it does?

The only thing I've really found effective against Marth is a crap ton of boomerangs and bombs, and Zair, Zair just shuts down his aerial approach, but Marth runs so close to the ground that if he doesn't jump, Zair goes right over him, then you get *****slapped with a dash attack

 

[iLink]

You shouldnt be getting hit with marth's raw fsmash that much.

You can also block it and wavedash oos dsmash to punish it.

 

[GHNeko]

lol no, Marth's Forward-smash >>> all Link's ground moves

...w-wha...


....

WHAT!?

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Wlkadsjf;laksdjfs WAT

Spoiler

 

[Rikana]

Marth is really bad when you're under him.

Both in game and in bed.





Edit: Moreso bed.

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

You shouldnt be getting hit with marth's raw fsmash that much.

You can also block it and wavedash oos dsmash to punish it.

When did I say I get hit with it a lot? I rarely do.

I was talking about strictly ground range, Marth's F-Smash has far more range and speed than Link's ground melee attacks

THAT'S ALL, nothing else, idk where you got the rest from

seriously now, you guys are silly to assume so much out of so little