Project M Social Thread

[Kizzu-kun]

That gif never gets old in Ike discussions.

 

[GHNeko]

gifs that prove points never gets old in discussion period.

 

[Kink-Link5]

As for downsmashing with a turnip, think of this scenario:

Peach is approaching a Falco close to the ledge with a turnip in hand. She hits Falco's shield with a FC aerial to downsmash, piercing his shield, combos him for like 30-60% with just downsmash, then sends Falco flying offstage with the last hit, followed up by throwing a turnip immediately to stop his recovery and hitting him offstage even further, setting up for an easy ledge guard.

So broken and can work on lots of characters. Downsmash combos into itself, pierces shields, sets up for ledgeguards, additional combos, and can kill. It's like... what more could Peach ask for?

She can also grab with a turnip so FloatBair means she can frame trap into a shield grab

While still keeping a turnip in hand.

Peach is mad ******** but the things that make her that way are probably going to be removed in future builds : c

RIP ItemGrabbing and ItemSmashing

 

[DrinkingFood]

I thought pivot grabbing with items was staying in? Mostly because I don't think they plan on adding "pivot item throws". Pivot grabbing with items is only possible because you can't throw backwards out of a run but you can grab backwards out of a run, a la pivot grabbing.

 

[Kink-Link5]

You can pivot grab with items too?

 

[DrinkingFood]

Yeah, and that's what I thought you were talking about in your last post- if not, then how are you grabbing with an item if you aren't pivot grabbing?

 

[Kink-Link5]

Doing a turn around standing grab. Pivot grabbing is grabbing during a pivot.

And then there's that Brawl dashturngrab thing.


Would it be possible to have jump canceled turnaround result in your character facing the other way when jumping? Since RARing was already included, it doesn't seem like it would do much if any harm; it would just give an additional level of control over your character to be able to turn around jump from a standing position. If this has already been tested then nevermind.

Also since Nair has such a wide hitbox it seems she can do floatnair turn around grab too.

Also from what I can tell Pit can still do that weird up-B out of glide momentum thing if he does it near the start of the glide. I think it's cool personally.

 

[hotdogturtle]

I hope this doesn't start another argument over incorporating canon... But I guess that would be better than Ike johns.

Wario should kill everything in 1 hit from Shoulder Bash and be able to Cargo Throw while walking at normal speed.

Then maybe people won't consider him weak anymore.

 

[DrinkingFood]

This has always been what I've heard referred to as a pivot grab- the thing you called the brawl dashturngrab thing. If that's not the case, then I don't know that you can grab during a dash pivot with an item in hand. Regardless, I didn't know you could just pivot and standing grab, and grab with an item... hmm...

Would it be possible to have jump canceled turnaround result in your character facing the other way when jumping? Since RARing was already included, it doesn't seem like it would do much if any harm; it would just give an additional level of control over your character to be able to turn around jump from a standing position. If this has already been tested then nevermind.

... you mean a standing turnaround, a dash pivot, or a running turnaround? because I'm pretty sure jumping as you do either any those results in your character facing the opposite way as you jump...

 

[DrinkingFood]

Derp. double post.

 

[Kink-Link5]

You can not grab with an item by doing a dashturngrab from any testing I've done. Only during a standing turnaround grab.


N/m about the pit thing, he can do it whenever in a glide as long as he has enough momentum from angling downward first.

... you mean a standing turnaround, a dash pivot, or a running turnaround? because I'm pretty sure jumping as you do either any those results in your character facing the opposite way as you jump...

It does for the latter two, nut not the first. Standing turnaround jump results in your character facing the way they were originally when jumping.

 

[UltiMario]

I AM POSTING SOMETHING OF URGENT NEWS.

I have a friend who just picked up Project M for themselves, they've played with with me a number of times before, but never did anything but usual scrubby play ****. No ATs, couldn't even WD and took until our previous play session a few weeks for him to even start thinking of L-Cancelling.

He was basically trying to lab ATs and **** for the first time in any smash game, he didn't really care about taking it to the next level in any smahs game before this. This is basically the first time he's ever tried real ****.

He texts me that he's already figured out AGT/Bomb Jumping. Nobody there to teach him about it, and I only mentioned it to him once before weeks back. And he got it in less than a day.

GET WRECKED KINK-LINK.

No Johns.

 

[GHNeko]

Exposed: []
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MTV Exposed: []
Northern Exposure: []
16 and Exposed: []
Exposedbusters: []
Bill Nye The Exposed Guy: []
Super Smash Bros Exposed: []
****ing Exposed: [X]

 

[bubbaking]

i need better people to play with.

We live near each other, in case you're interested...

 

[DrinkingFood]

That winky face implies you may be interested in more than just smash...

I AM POSTING SOMETHING OF URGENT NEWS.

I have a friend who just picked up Project M for themselves, they've played with with me a number of times before, but never did anything but usual scrubby play ****. No ATs, couldn't even WD and took until our previous play session a few weeks for him to even start thinking of L-Cancelling.

He was basically trying to lab ATs and **** for the first time in any smash game, he didn't really care about taking it to the next level in any smahs game before this. This is basically the first time he's ever tried real ****.

He texts me that he's already figured out AGT/Bomb Jumping. Nobody there to teach him about it, and I only mentioned it to him once before weeks back. And he got it in less than a day.

GET WRECKED KINK-LINK.

No Johns.

Also, lol
I wish my casual smashmates were dedicated enough to practice alone >.<

 

[Kink-Link5]

Personal attacks against specific users: 1.2 Cactuars and two ToS broken.

 

[Onomanic]

I'm glad my casual friends want to practice alone but can't because no one owns a Wii but me.

 

[bubbaking]

That winky face implies you may be interested in more than just smash...

Grow up, will you.

 

[DrinkingFood]

I'm not the one that saturates my posts with smiley faces. Also chill. It was a joke. Jesus christ, ****ing everything is a personal attack on the internet, apparently.

@cannedbread
don't listen to him, SSB isn't the smash he wants to play with you
Although maybe he wants to smash bros
whether or not it will be super is up to your interpretation

 

[bubbaking]

I don't see how using emoticons denotes childishness or an otherwise lack of maturity of any sort.

 

[DrinkingFood]

The inability to denote emotion through contextual clues. Or perhaps, the need to emote at all.

 

[bubbaking]

I feel like being easy to read/understand. Is there a problem with that? Man, for a guy who gets annoyed about people possibly over-reacting, you sure nit-pick over the smallest stuff.

 

[DrinkingFood]

I don't feel the need to take this any farther- the post I had in mind had a high likelihood of getting me infracted, regardless of its truthfulness.

 

[bubbaking]

Yeah, do the smart thing.

 

[DrinkingFood]

God damn have we gotten off topic. So let's turn this around.
How about we discuss...

Spoiler

IKE

 

[cannedbread]

lol silly boys

 

[bubbaking]

And if you aren't able to beat the techs on reaction, it's his worst throw, hands down, because it only occasionally achieves what it's meant to achieve, and often directly results in a 180 degree shift in momentum, a problem other throws never suffer from.

I wouldn't say it's a problem other throws never suffer from. I believe Wario's dthrow causes even worse problems. It doesn't even set up a true TC situation like Zard's does and his ability to TC is even worse than Zard's.

There is more lag than there was in brawl, but you can ADC it from a full-hop and have no lag.

What's "ADC"?

Doing a turn around standing grab. Pivot grabbing is grabbing during a pivot.

And then there's that Brawl dashturngrab thing.

The latter two are both different kinds of pivots. The "pivot grabbing" that you speak of is Melee pivot grabbing and I think it always results in a standing grab but I'm not sure. The "Brawl dashturngrab thing" is Brawl pivot grabbing which is just grabbing in the reverse direction out of a run. I'm not sure, but I think the Melee version has something to do with stutterstepping.

 

[cannedbread]

i'm going to assume air dodge cancel.

 

[bubbaking]

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info! I'm gonna hafta add that to my index of abbreviations...

Edit: So as an example, does that mean that Wolf can ADC out of his laser?

 

[DrinkingFood]

It seems it can refer to either canceling an airdodge with something or using an airdodge to cancel something, as with JC being either canceling something with a jump or canceling a jump into something else. Usually something doesn't have both properties though so it should be perfectly fine to use the same terms in both situations assuming the readers are informed. And if they aren't informed, well, that's what your thread is for.

 

[Strong Badam]

Brawl pivot grab = turngrab
Melee pivot grab = pivot grab

Project M terminology kidz

 

[DrinkingFood]

Works for me. Bubbaking, you should make the above distinction in your thread as well. Pivoting causes me enough confusion as it is. We should just use our own term for P:M to avoid confusion to new players as well.

 

[cannedbread]

i don't even know what this means, this game is hard and you guys are nerds.

 

[DrinkingFood]

i don't even know what this means, this game is hard and you guys are nerds.

I'm going to take this as a deep personal insult because you didn't use any smiley faces or LOL's in that sentence, and so because of my inability to read context clues, I'm going to assume you were attacking me directly. You're a horrible person, reported, have fun being banned, etc

Spoiler

subtly trolling

Dang I need to stop posting so much nonsense but I can't help it I'm bored and this chemistry is time consuming.

 

[bubbaking]

It seems it can refer to either canceling an airdodge with something or using an airdodge to cancel something, as with JC being either canceling something with a jump or canceling a jump into something else. Usually something doesn't have both properties though so it should be perfectly fine to use the same terms in both situations assuming the readers are informed. And if they aren't informed, well, that's what your thread is for.

Usually.....but then there's the shine which can be cancelled both into a jump and from a jump.

 

[DrinkingFood]

*sigh* shine doesn't cancel the jump, it cancels upward momentum, which is why you'll insta-land if you do it on the first frame of being airborne. That's what allows double/multi-shines etc*.
*I think

 

[cannedbread]

i thought multi shines were done by cancelling jumpsquat with shine

 

[MaxThunder]

can't cancel jumpsquat with shine... can does shines on frame 1 of jump to insta land...

 

[ph00tbag]

I wouldn't say it's a problem other throws never suffer from. I believe Wario's dthrow causes even worse problems. It doesn't even set up a true TC situation like Zard's does and his ability to TC is even worse than Zard's.

I meant Zard's other throws.

 

[cannedbread]

ssoorryy

i can't into spacies