Project M Social Thread

[DrinkingFood]

lol ***T
We must call it ***T
"Dude toon link's recovery is garbage"
"No bro you just gotta learn to ***T"

 

[DrinkingFood]

Does a FsAGT have to be done out a bomb jump though? Or can it be anytime you get caught in the bomb's explosion?

 

[FRENUM]

In addition, we can call SAGT Frenum Super Aerial Glide Toss, which would make it ***ging, which has a nice ring to it though may be too profane for some tastes.

Lol.... At first I didn't like this.... But then I was like... YES. just removed the super in general. *** tossing XD

 

[DrinkingFood]

We need a way that it doesn't censor.
F@G tossing
F4G tossing
hmmm

We could always scrap the *** idea and call it FRAG tossing.
FRenum Super Aerial Glide Toss

 

[JediKnightTemplar]

Frag tossing or fragging sounds like it could work. Personally I still prefer *** tossing or ***ging.

 

[DrinkingFood]

I do too, but the censor messes it up.
Blame the existence of sensitive people who require a censor for the fact that we can't call a recovery technique a ******. At least, not very easily.

 

[CORY]

just start calling it "triple asterix tee" in real life, then it'll be the same as on the boards!

 

[DrinkingFood]

But then we'd want to abbreviate it TAT

 

[FRENUM]

For teh giggles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIHoovYZME&feature=g-upl

 

[`dazrin]

You guys are hilarious hahahaha

I'm still calling T-Bomb the way it is. I like how it sounds. haha
But for sagt, I like fragging alot. I'll probably call it that.


So to fragt back to the stage going ->, the input is:
:stick6:->:stick4:->:ltrigger::stick6:stick6: ?
[mash out of tumble]->[AGT towards stage]

(I like ***t better, but censor messes it up, so on the boards I'm calling it fragt lol)

 

[FRENUM]

You guys are hilarious hahahaha

I'm still calling T-Bomb the way it is. I like how it sounds. haha
But for sagt, I like fragging alot. I'll probably call it that.


So to fragt back to the stage going ->, the input is:
:stick6:->:stick4:->:ltrigger::stick6:stick6: ?
[mash out of tumble]->[AGT towards stage]

(I like ***t better, but censor messes it up, so on the boards I'm calling it fragt lol)

You got it! And if you aim the stick up at a diagonal angle you even get a little height

 

[9Kplus1]

"****** Tossing"? Wdf...

You people are ****ing weird...

 

[`dazrin]

:stick4:->:stick6:->:ltrigger::stick9:stick6:

Got it! Thanks Frenum! This is extremely helpful for me considering there will be a P:M tournament coming up this coming Sunday the 22nd here in BC.

Spoiler

[shamelessplug] (Which will be streamed on http://twitch.tv/dazee_) [shamelessplug/]

 

[CORY]

But then we'd want to abbreviate it TAT

nope, you'd abbreviate it ***t

 

[FRENUM]

:stick4:->:stick6:->:ltrigger::stick9:stick6:

Got it! Thanks Frenum! This is extremely helpful for me considering there will be a P:M tournament coming up this coming Sunday the 22nd here in BC.

Have you sat down and tried it yet?

 

[CSDragon]

Sounds like I got here at a good time

what's going on?

 

[FRENUM]

Sounds like I got here at a good time

what's going on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=891iaH0HucQ&feature=youtu.be

 

[CSDragon]

This video has been removed by the user?

 

[FRENUM]

Sorry lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIHoovYZME&feature=g-upl

Aaaaand this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivq9wqz0Cu8&feature=g-upl

 

[GuruKid]

Pit Hitbox and Frame Data is out, for all the aspiring angels out there.

http://www.smashmods.com/forum/thread-4823.html

 

[JediKnightTemplar]

Now to figure out how to ***t with a wiichuk.

 

[ph00tbag]

For the record, you don't actually need to "mash" out of tumble. One tap will do the trick, if P:M is at all like Melee in this regard. The reason most people mash is because you can't buffer untumble inputs.

 

[SpiderMad]

For the record, you don't actually need to "mash" out of tumble. One tap will do the trick, if P:M is at all like Melee in this regard. The reason most people mash is because you can't buffer untumble inputs.

Is Hit-stun tumble, or is tumble like a thing that happens for a short bit after every medium+ hitstun amount? Do you mean like one flick as in Left+Right and that's it? So If the buffer setting is on say 2 frames in P:M, if you input L+R once 2 frames before you enter "tumble", it will get you out of tumble?

Did the P:M team know about this SAGT AT prior to frenum?

 

[`dazrin]

^ Probably not.

They knew about AGTing in all directions for sure, but I don't think they knew about FrAGT.

edit:
Can't wait to recover like this in Shadic's face at Aug GC xD

 

[ph00tbag]

Is Hit-stun tumble, or is tumble like a thing that happens for a short bit after every medium+ hitstun amount? Do you mean like one flick as in Left+Right and that's it? So If the buffer setting is on say 2 frames in P:M, if you input L+R once 2 frames before you enter "tumble", it will get you out of tumble?

Hitstun and tumble are two separate animations with their own rules governing their physics. If you go watch video of a character getting hit, hitstun is any of the reeling animations you enter while being knocked back. Once you enter hitstun, you have no control over air control, falling speed, or any such thing, and you can't interrupt the animation until it has complete.

If you're in hitstun for a certain number of frames (I forget the precise number), then you enter tumble when hitstun ends. Tumble is quite literally a tumbling animation. In this state, you can do anything except airdodge. In order to airdodge you have to untumble by tapping either left or right. Tapping up and down won't have the same affect, though; up makes you jump and down makes you fast fall.

Basically, if you know when you can jump out of combos, you know when you can untumble. As to whether Brawl buffering can help you to untumble with frame perfect inputs, I don't know. I've never actually tried. But I don't see why it wouldn't.

 

[standardtoaster]

32 frames.

 

[Mr.Pickle]

So wait this is fine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivq9wqz0Cu8&feature=g-upl, but Ike wall jump is broken...lol that glide toss thing is cool though.

 

[`dazrin]

Despite it giving you a bunch of distance you have to consider the fact that you NEED to have a bomb in your hand before you are sent flying off stage. This makes the tech situational since you obviously can't have a bomb in hand 24/7 Also it's still easy to edgeguard if you know what's coming.

 

[FRENUM]

Despite it giving you a bunch of distance you have to consider the fact that you NEED to have a bomb in your hand before you are sent flying off stage. This makes the tech situational since you obviously can't have a bomb in hand 24/7 Also it's still easy to edgeguard if you know what's coming.

You don't need to have a bomb. You can do it just as far with a zair. Only issue is you go into special fall if you're too high.
But it works well without a bomb!

 

[`dazrin]

Wait, what do you mean by too high? You only go into special fall if you're at a specific height?

 

[FRENUM]

Wait, what do you mean by too high? You only go into special fall if you're at a specific height?

No but if you're too low, like lower than than stage then you won't be able to recover using the Fragtoss. So if you get launched up high without a bomb you can easily recover while fragtossing without a bomb (just using zair)

 

[foshio]

Daze if you're too low on most stages you'd die whether you had a bomb or not... So if you're way up high you'll be vulnerable in special fall, you have to be at that perfect height to make it back wihtout being vulnerable

Woah just got ninja'd

 

[`dazrin]

Only issue is you go into special fall if you're too high.

Kay, that's what I thought. ^That just threw me off a little and I had to make sure LOL

 

[Jamwa]

Thanks JCaesar

 

[GunBlaze]

Speaking of zairs...

Why almost whenever I try to bomb jump, when I press A to throw the bomb, zair happens instead? Not a Toon Link-only problem, however, as every tether-possessing character has the same problem.

 

[Gimpel]

you have to press it earlier, you can only cancel your air dodge into item throw during the first few frames of your air dodge I think, after that, zair will come out instead

/e I like how my avatar fits perfectly to the content of this post

 

[GunBlaze]

you have to press it earlier, you can only cancel your air dodge into item throw during the first few frames of your air dodge I think, after that, zair will come out instead

/e I like how my avatar fits perfectly to the content of this post

Tell me this is a Brawl thing...

 

[`dazrin]

Tell me this is a Brawl thing...

No. It's because if you press it too late, you end up pressing R+A in the air, which equates to a ZAir.

My recommendation is that you dont press A and press :ltrigger::stick8:stick8: at the same time while you have a bomb in the air in order to AGT upwards into a bombjump.

 

[GunBlaze]

No. It's because if you press it too late, you end up pressing R+A in the air, which equates to a ZAir.

My recommendation is that you dont press A and press :ltrigger::stick8:stick8: at the same time while you have a bomb in the air in order to AGT upwards into a bombjump.

I only :rtrigger::stick8:, then while still holding :stick8:, I press :abutton:

 

[`dazrin]

Yeah, that's how Shadic does it and that's how I used to try to do it before. Didn't work out for me so I use:ltrigger::stick8:stick8: and I can do it consistently now. I found I was pressing R way too fast because I'm weird and use R to L-cancel/Shield/WD so I use L now and it works beautifully