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Project M Social Thread
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leelue
Smash Lord
My avatar is golduck
also, genkaku, wouldn't it be fair to argue that because bf has those extra movement options that it is less neutral because of the extra advantage it provides those characters? smashville gives and takes away the advantages to movement and recovery in a predictable way, which in my eyes is the best of all worlds.
Im biased though; I love smashville. That or the consistent frozen ps2.
I don't know anything about the blast zones on stages except for obvious ones like melee yoshi's floor and rumble fall's walls.
What I do know, kink, is that yoshi's in melee has those tapered edges which.. kinda matter.
also, genkaku, wouldn't it be fair to argue that because bf has those extra movement options that it is less neutral because of the extra advantage it provides those characters? smashville gives and takes away the advantages to movement and recovery in a predictable way, which in my eyes is the best of all worlds.
Im biased though; I love smashville. That or the consistent frozen ps2.
I don't know anything about the blast zones on stages except for obvious ones like melee yoshi's floor and rumble fall's walls.
What I do know, kink, is that yoshi's in melee has those tapered edges which.. kinda matter.
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Correct. Only difference between Battlefield: M(brawl bf) and Melee Battlefield are the aesthetics and ledges.
Kink, bf in the demo is melee sized. It's ported using melee's exact values. lol
Leelue - RF's blastzones have been fixed if you've seen a recent stream or played on RF at EY's place
Jonas
Smash Champion
The Melee BF ledges were kind of annoying, but they made the stage a good cp vs spacies. I even cp'ed it versus a Peach player once because I knew he had a tendency to get stuck under the ledge with his Up B (and he did in that match 
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I guess it's for the better, but I'm still gonna miss those screwy ledges.
).I guess it's for the better, but I'm still gonna miss those screwy ledges.
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genkaku
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yeah, I was thinking about that. BF is really good for movement, but I don't think that it polarizes things enough in but a few matchups to matter.
Smashville gives and takes away in a way that makes it ok and bad for movement alternatively, haha. Mostly I think it makes a less perfect neutrality because it potentially limits fluidity or favors a horizontal basis to a great enough extent that sometimes I'm going to strike it for the same reasons I would strike PS2, whereas it's more difficult for me to think of conditions where I would use a strike for BF other than just not liking the stage.
Hey guys I recently got Yoshiiscool (best melee yoshi in TN) and IHSB (Ihavespaceballs) to play some PM after we played a bunch of melee.
It was a build from like early october, but they seemed to have some fun.
I don't know how much was done to yoshi but Yoshiiscool pointed out a few things like not being able to parry or instant ledge snap.
IHSB seemed to like it more than Yoshiiscool. That could have just been me. He said that he couldn't bomb jump off shield I think.
Anyway, I had a few other TN smashers try it as well and they seemed to be very positive about it... Would be really awesome if someone in TN had access to SVN, but I hear the second demo is coming out soon. Unless Yoshiiscool tells me otherwise I will probably be playing a lot more PM with smashers here pretty regularly.
It was a build from like early october, but they seemed to have some fun.
I don't know how much was done to yoshi but Yoshiiscool pointed out a few things like not being able to parry or instant ledge snap.
IHSB seemed to like it more than Yoshiiscool. That could have just been me. He said that he couldn't bomb jump off shield I think.
Anyway, I had a few other TN smashers try it as well and they seemed to be very positive about it... Would be really awesome if someone in TN had access to SVN, but I hear the second demo is coming out soon. Unless Yoshiiscool tells me otherwise I will probably be playing a lot more PM with smashers here pretty regularly.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Smashville is the most neutral stage in any Smash game imo. It also gets used the most as the first stage in tournament sets in my experience, and I've run a lot of P:M tourneys.
Yoshi can instant ledge snap just like he can in Melee. Dunno what that guy was doing wrong.
Yoshi can instant ledge snap just like he can in Melee. Dunno what that guy was doing wrong.
9Kplus1
Smash Master
Maybe this was the problem?
btw - <3 you guys for
I'll have to ask Jack if he has any advice for us.
Hmm... Don't know how helpful he would be considering how old my build was.
Guess I can let yoshiiscool know that. Unless yoshi is in the demo.
There's no way he was screwing it up. His melee yoshi is crazy. It's what that dude said.
Yeh, I kept asking if they had any advice on characters and what feels off and what not... As they were giving it to me, I realized the build was too old for it to have any use. Of course I let them know stuff that hadn't been coded yet like stickytechs ,tethers (this build was right before tethers) ledgehog timing... Was a lot of fun though.. I could actually win some matches in PM... My link was getting ***** by them in melee. I wasn't doing to bad against yoshi sometimes, but I got ****ed by Jack. God damn.
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
One of you guys should apply. It sounds like the TN scene is an active place that would warmly accept Project M.
leelue
Smash Lord
Monk, how far away were the blast zones pushed out?
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
don't remember but the blastzones feel like they're slightly smaller than DL64
leelue
Smash Lord
@monk
That's too bad. I liked having a stage that big with blastzones fairly close-by. They didn't have to be a stone's throw away, but I liked the matchup variance there (especially for someone like sonic)
That's too bad. I liked having a stage that big with blastzones fairly close-by. They didn't have to be a stone's throw away, but I liked the matchup variance there (especially for someone like sonic)
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Good to know BF's platforms were also fixed, I'd have known that if THE STAGE SCREEN ON DANT'S SITE EVER GOT FINISHED.
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Sorry, we've been busy making a game.
Speaking of, 50-50 chance I'll stream this evening. Depends on if I'm feeling sick or not.
Non-sucky friend(tm) would be joining me.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
I don't see how Melee BF with Brawl ledges is the most neutral stage though still.
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
BF's platforms were already in the same locations, sizes, etc. of Melee in the demo. The entire stage had everything about Melee BF ported except for having Melee's underside.
E: Only change from Demo BF and current BF would be the collision fix on the underside.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
I'll be honest I only played the demo for one day before deciding Melee would be better practice.
Jiangjunizzy
Smash Lord
tis a good day, gentlemen.
OmegaMuffin
Smash Journeyman
Is the sweetspot of ZSS's up b a spike or meteor?
curry9186
Smash Journeyman
KingClubber
Smash Ace
JediKnightTemplar
Smash Lord
He's trolling us.
random thought
....do you guys plan on removing the ability for certain characters to move while falling during hold specials? i've always thought it looked bad/unfitting
why should only bowser/zard/link/TL/pit/zss/ike..etc. have this ability? not saying its a game changing mechanic or anything but personally i would prefer to see it gone across the roster.
....do you guys plan on removing the ability for certain characters to move while falling during hold specials? i've always thought it looked bad/unfitting
why should only bowser/zard/link/TL/pit/zss/ike..etc. have this ability? not saying its a game changing mechanic or anything but personally i would prefer to see it gone across the roster.
KingClubber
Smash Ace
I think they added those, themselves. I don't think Link nor Toonlink had that ability.
Also that would be pretty bad for Fox, and Falco....
Also that would be pretty bad for Fox, and Falco....
KingClubber
Smash Ace
Give me a moment i'll test it out myself.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
Fox and falco can move during any action of their blasters. It's really not much of an issue.
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I don't know how saying that is supposed to suddenly make your point correct.
KingClubber
Smash Ace
Nope, they were all added in PM. In fact Fox, and Falco didn't have that ability in brawl, so adding them to other characters that could use the ability seems fine.
I'm not complaining.... I just wanted to see people's thoughts on this
especially since very similar moves don't share this trait
for example Ike's Eruption vs Marths shield-breaker
Ike's quickdraw vs Luigi/Pikachu's side-b
Link's bow vs diddy's blaster
Edit: and my mistake, ur right kingclubber it was P:M that gave certain characters this ability. So was it intentional or it just happened due to certain codes?
especially since very similar moves don't share this trait
for example Ike's Eruption vs Marths shield-breaker
Ike's quickdraw vs Luigi/Pikachu's side-b
Link's bow vs diddy's blaster
Edit: and my mistake, ur right kingclubber it was P:M that gave certain characters this ability. So was it intentional or it just happened due to certain codes?
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drsusredfish
Smash Ace
are you gona explain what you ment?
KingClubber
Smash Ace
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