Project M Social Thread

[jalued]

It's not bad. It's just a little below average.

still better than nothing, and fits the animation. Running from it could also work well and would be more useful than the sideB

 

[GHNeko]

Shield Roll canceled into side b

side b canceled into a running yoshi


LETS DO IT

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Yeah I mean come on, Yoshi NEEDS it.

Give him some OoS option if he doesn't get his Jump OoS back.

Also have you guys decided on his parry window yet? And does he keep his stretchy Brawl animations? (I love his Brawl animations for some reason)

 

[GHNeko]

He doesn't really need an OOS option. I still consider his absolute defense against shield pokes to be a tremendous advantage against characters who rely on shield pressure/shield pokes aka melee top tiers.

And how his shield drop is 1 frame less than a normal shield drop IIRC.

His shielding options are not terrible. They're a step below, but at least he makes up for it in other areas.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Oh that's right. In Melee his shield drop is LOWER.

Sorry, so used to Brawl, where his shield drop was (maybe just seemed?) laggier than average.

 

[jalued]

He doesn't really need an OOS option. I still consider his absolute defense against shield pokes to be a tremendous advantage against characters who rely on shield pressure/shield pokes aka melee top tiers.

And how his shield drop is 1 frame less than a normal shield drop IIRC.

His shielding options are not terrible. They're a step below, but at least he makes up for it in other areas.

technically though, if a character like fox/falco is shield pressuring you, there are only 3 options available: roll, shield grab or jump OOS (shine OOS, upB OOS etc etc).

Shield grabbing does not work against a good spacie:

So when shield pressuring a yoshi, its even easier for the fox/falco to follow up because they know the yoshi can ONLY roll away.

It doesn't seem like the ability to not be shield poked is balanced if it means when in shield, you will get punished

 

[GHNeko]

I didn't say it would balance it out. I said it's an advantage against characters who rely on shield pressure.

 

[Juushichi]

Why not give him his brawl spot dodge? That thing was pree good.

 

[jalued]

I didn't say it would balance it out. I said it's an advantage against characters who rely on shield pressure.

i don't think it really is.. because shielding leaves you with so little options that it is easy for the opponent to punish you.

It doesn't matter that the shielded hit will never be poked if it guarantees a followup for the opponent

Anyhow, it was just a suggestion only if Yoshi needs the help. He might not need it with his current combo potential (since i havn't played PM)

 

[Plairnkk]

this game is CRAZY

edit:: zelda ****in peefs me off so hard in teams

 

[nawgui]

For all of the "spreading P:M" talk:

I just took Project M to Gameclucks (WA's biggest regular event, I believe) and had a good chunk of the venue at least watch a few matches, with most of them getting to actually play. I think every single person enjoyed their time with it, and I know it generated a lot of excitement. The biggest thing holding P:M back from being played more is the fact that the demo is decrepit and we haven't put out a better build yet.

A bunch of players kept getting sidetracked by my singular P:M setup instead of playing their bracket matches.

that tourney was mad swag, P:M felt even more filthy and awesome then what it did at Genesis 2, I seamlessly transferred from playing melee to P:M back to melee for my matches without feeling much of a difference if even a difference at all

 

[GHNeko]

and this is why P:M is legit

nawgui needs to tell WA to play more P:M. :V

 

[Ecks]

this game is CRAZY

edit:: zelda ****in peefs me off so hard in teams

By "peefs" you off, do you mean "complains like hell"?

But seriously, it's so good to hear people aren't having problems transitioning between games. You've come a long way PM.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

This just in: Plank planning a P:M tourney with a catch: No prize money will be awarded!

 

[Wavebuster]

This just in: Plank planning a P:M tourney with a catch: No prize money will be awarded!

Some people just call those Japan-style tournaments.

 

[GHNeko]

Of course no prize money would be awarded.

You shouldnt be charging in the first place.

P:M tourneys should be free to enter.


This also means cut the Plank **** this very instant. This thread is not the place for it. And I won't tolerate it.

 

[Shadic]

nawgui needs to tell WA to play more P:M. :V

A bunch of people in WA seem to have various modded versions of Brawl on their systems, but stick with Melee because it's the best thing out there right now. I think there's a chance of more people picking it up post demo 2.

And it was cool seeing ya, nawgui. I think that's the only time I'll ever hear "Oh ****, you're Shadic?"

 

[ph00tbag]

edit:: zelda ****in peefs me off so hard in teams

Oddly enough, I know exactly what Plank means by this.

 

[hotdogturtle]

1% of Smash players own 99% of Project M.

#occupysmashboards

 

[GHNeko]

Someone give this guy a cookie. lool.

 

[Akuma2120]

Sooo...is it safe to assume that the new build will be released before or on Feb. 7th next year?

No, wtf random dates

I remember when people thought the patch was going to be out a few months after the initial build, and then before 2011.

And I remember laughing very hard at that. I initially guessed we wouldn't see it before 2012, and now I even question that, I'd wait till late 2013 at least before expecting anything. This **** takes time to make good, what did you expect?

 

[GHNeko]

i heard the demo comes out tomorrow

:troll:

 

[Ecks]

They already know we want the demo, asking about it won't do anything. I mean, we can always play another game until this comes out y'know.

 

[JediKnightTemplar]

I'm not expecting a patch before I graduate (which FYI is 2013)

 

[Mattnumbers]

1% of Smash players own 99% of Project M.

#occupysmashboards

Welcome to my signature.

Neko shall be pleased that his incomprehensible statement from years ago will no longer be seen at the bottom of my posts.

 

[GHNeko]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy

 

[humble]

@Yoshi talk- You should remove the hop at the start of Yoshi's side-b, so it just immediately starts rolling, rather then having that awkward hop that slows it down so much. Allow him to cancel roll into side-b, and cancel side-b into shield.

 

[DVDV28]

Shield cancellable SSpec definitely.

Not sure about SSpec cancellable Shield.

 

[Spoon~]

Making a cancelable roll sounds terrible lol

 

[Sinji]

Who uses this song for FOD?
I do.

"One Girl in all the world"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDJ63ZHrGo8&list=LLnFWrItTIMmBrttweLnXc8g&index=9&feature=plpp_video

 

[Ghostbone]

Sorry, so used to Brawl, where his shield drop was (maybe just seemed?) laggier than average.

His shield drop is like 17 frames compared to everyone else's 7 frames in Brawl.
Soooo baaaaad

 

[Juushichi]

Any streams tonight? I hope so.

And maybe people will play Toon Link this time.

 

[Deleted member]

@Yoshi talk- You should remove the hop at the start of Yoshi's side-b, so it just immediately starts rolling, rather then having that awkward hop that slows it down so much. Allow him to cancel roll into side-b, and cancel side-b into shield.

Or if Yoshi had his jump, he would become one of the most decent characters in the game.

Its that simple

 

[jalued]

Or if Yoshi had his jump, he would become one of the most decent characters in the game.

Its that simple

but then he loses a unique trait

 

[Rikana]

I don't think the unique trait is the jump oos. I think its the egg that protects him from pokes.

 

[jalued]

I don't think the unique trait is the jump oos. I think its the egg that protects him from pokes.

i think nintendo's thoughts were that protection from shield pokes needed to be balanced. But no jump OOS is far too harsh a punishment, especially considering how the melee metagame evolved (which they could never have know would happen)

 

[Rikana]

And why would nintendo think that when Yoshi's recovery was very mediocre?

 

[jalued]

And why would nintendo think that when Yoshi's recovery was very mediocre?

just the only explanation i can think of for him having a good shield but no OOS options

 

[MaxThunder]

i think sakurai just realized that yoshi's shield is an egg, and not some energy... sphere thingy like the rest of the cast has... and that being able to just jump out of an egg is kinda wierd...

 

[Supreme Dirt]

But the thing is if the P:M team is bringing things back from 64 too, Yoshi could jump OoS in 64.

Yoshi is also top of B tier in 64.