Project M Social Thread Gold

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Guides were useful in the 90s.

Nah
Super helpful, it's helping me in FFCC and pokemon games in general.

No c-stick tho
RIP running bair
and retreating fair
and fast-falling uair
and so many other things.

I played smash 4 for like 10 minutes, and all of what was just said, was rather easy. I didn't know L was the, "grab" button tho. RAR feels a lot smoother and faster, just wanted to add that.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Guides were useful in the 90s.

Without giudes, online or otherwise, you'd never know how the EV system works. Ever. In Gen 1 and 2 you can get the best stats ever without paying attention to EV's, or as they were known back then, Stat Exp. Ever since RSE, it's been a different story.

There are also other games made past 2000 that have a ridiculous amount of guide dang it. Final Fantasy X2 has a moronic amount of easily miss-able one time cues, scenes, and triggers that net you all the good stuff and the true ending. That was the first game I looked up guides for and printed things like the Mission and Garment Grid FAQs, and I'm glad I did because I would never have gotten the Iron Duke, Best Ending, or Mascot Dressphere otherwise.

FF12 also has the Zodiac spear, which thanks to programming boo boos, requires you to NOT open unspecified chests throughout the game world to have a realisticish chance of obtaining such a powerful sphere.

Anyway, smash 4's controls are awkward to me, but not awful. Thank goodness I can put L to shield and R to grab. I miss the C-stick... but not that much. I can manage without it, but that may be because I grew up on Melee's single player modes, where the C-stick is not a thing.

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

DJNintendo's Bowser is so on point. Does he play PM?

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Aside from D1's house, I don't think so.

 

[Alakaslam]

I visit Zigawatt

I use his ds for Somma online sm4sh

He says DO NOT BE PEACH I am like "WTFITS"

So I ness

Slow Death by link

So I do the hype ZSS

... Slow death by link

I could do nothing, what is this. ZSS at least wasn't slow, but it was like there was this big delay from input to move made.

I am giving it up as lost cause by here, Ziggawatt continues as Ike

TOO SLOW

we continue with this project m

<3 pmdt

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

PMS | SaxophoneofTime on stream gettin exposed

 

[MLGF]

DJNintendo's Bowser is so on point. Does he play PM?

Yep, plays Ike with none of the QD gimmicks.

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

Yep, plays Ike with none of the QD gimmicks.

Gimmicks is such a tired buzzword. Please stop using it. Ike without QD is objectively a bad character. It's like playing Ganon without L canceling or wavelanding

 

[MLGF]

Fair enough, I just couldn't think of a better word.

Sorry for triggering you, I'll just check my PM privilege.

But seriously he does use QD stuff far less often then other Ike's, he told me that Nair was a better tool and showed me a lot of stuff you can do with it. He said something about Metroid and Ally using QD a lot more and that he is less reliant on it. He's honestly less technical then I am, but he's wicked smart.

 

[ZiggaWaTT]

I visit Zigawatt

I use his ds for Somma online sm4sh

He says DO NOT BE PEACH I am like "WTFITS"

So I ness

Slow Death by link

So I do the hype ZSS

... Slow death by link

I could do nothing, what is this. ZSS at least wasn't slow, but it was like there was this big delay from input to move made.

I am giving it up as lost cause by here, Ziggawatt continues as Ike

TOO SLOW

we continue with this project m

<3 pmdt

Actually after you left i started wreaking face with ike in ranked. I realized that aerials are very punishable and shouldn't be used nearly as much as in PM. I won like 90% of my games with ike after that :D. This also means that lil mac is such an annoyance to deal with >_<

 

[Empyrean]

FF12 also has the Zodiac spear, which thanks to programming boo boos, requires you to NOT open unspecified chests throughout the game world to have a realisticish chance of obtaining such a powerful sphere.

That's real BS. Specially when the only other way to get that **** is like a 1/1000 chance chest in possibly the game's hardest location.

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

Fair enough, I just couldn't think of a better word.

Sorry for triggering you, I'll just check my PM privilege.

But seriously he does use QD stuff far less often then other Ike's, he told me that Nair was a better tool and showed me a lot of stuff you can do with it. He said something about Metroid and Ally using QD a lot more and that he is less reliant on it. He's honestly less technical then I am, but he's wicked smart.

Lol I didn't mean to come across like that you ****lord Kappa

But really I was more thinking of recovery. Ike w/o QD on stage is bad though, like it makes Ike a bit like Luigi. Without the movement speed of wavedashing, Luigi struggles to properly space his attacks, and I feel the same can be said of Ike.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

http://youtu.be/GLcQWVNkDYg?t=3m37s
THX

 

[Vashimus]

You scrubs and your 3DS's. Enjoy your terribad controls, sub-Gamecube graphics and phone-sized screen.

BUT IT'S SMASH BROS YOU CAN PLAY ON THE JOHN

THE JOHN, EMPY

 

[Gamegenie222]

Yo Toast brother Monk is about to be on stream against M2K.

 

[trash?]

does jugglyguy still ban wobbling btw

I'm genuinely serious how does this person exist as a TO in 2014

 

[Soft Serve]

does jugglyguy still ban wobbling btw

I'm genuinely serious how does this person exist as a TO in 2014

yes he does
fantastic TO, but he bans wobbling and chains power strips.

 

[trash?]

fantastic TO, except also he creates safety hazards for the several hundred people in the venue, nbd

 

[Animage]

BUT IT'S SMASH BROS YOU CAN PLAY ON THE JOHN

THE JOHN, EMPY

If you dare to use the wiiu gamepad, you can play that on the john too..

 

[shairn]

fantastic TO, except also he creates safety hazards for the several hundred people in the venue, nbd

Worst case scenario, a fuse blows and the strip stops working.

 

[Deleted member]

JuggleGuy also hates player cams... not sure why lol

 

[Kidneyjoe]

I'm kind of curious how he bans wobbling. The rule just says "Wobbling is banned." What does that mean from an enforcement standpoint? How many Ftilts/Dtilts does Nana have to do for it to be considered wobbling? Can you do one less than that limit and then reset the count with a handoff or something?

 

[shairn]

Wobbling is wobbling regardless of how long you do it.

 

[trash?]

there isn't one, it's the same thing as no stalling rules in that, beyond a few obvious scenarios, it's easy to get around and impossible to reasonably enforce

ICs had this same thing in brawl, there were "no chaingrabbing" rules but they did so much off of grabs anyways that they were getting kills regardless

 

[SpiderMad]

No c-stick tho
RIP running bair
and retreating fair
and fast-falling uair
and so many other things.

Well that new 3ds is gonna have one. Ya'll ignorant in PM on C-stick set to Attack to trigger Nairs on the diagonal, it has too many downfalls though with the other things it changes.

Fair enough, I just couldn't think of a better word.

Sorry for triggering you, I'll just check my PM privilege.

But seriously he does use QD stuff far less often then other Ike's, he told me that Nair was a better tool and showed me a lot of stuff you can do with it. He said something about Metroid and Ally using QD a lot more and that he is less reliant on it. He's honestly less technical then I am, but he's wicked smart.

I haven't seen him SH Autocancel it, or any Ike SH Autocancel Fair and Dair as well at all (or make good use of SH Bair DJ/WL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knNK-fLBNps )

And besides all that Nair
His Ike is bologna, and I lost footage of an amazing combo I did last night but I'll upload you a decentish one sometime

JuggleGuy also hates player cams... not sure why lol

Something about being a vampire

 

[MLGF]

Won the first CT Sm4sh tournament,
Clearly best in CT, no questions asked. I will now proceed to bop everyone in the East Coast.

I'm really feeling it.

And lol trust me, my Ike is wicked technical. Like, I have an obsession with movement/execution. Last thing I need is MORE Ike tech, I just need to get better mindgames/reads.

 

[SpiderMad]

I don't believe you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knNK-fLBNps do this

 

[MLGF]

PinkFresh was impressed with my movement, so yeah. Don't know how to DI MK though.
STILL LOST BECAUSE I'M ****ING TRASH

I'll learn that shiz, give me a day.

 

[SpiderMad]

PinkFresh was impressed with my movement, so yeah. Don't know how to DI MK though.
STILL LOST BECAUSE I'M ****ING TRASH

I'll learn that shiz, give me a day.

Good you now have your allotted time span and I wish you luck on your journey, use a cellphone or such to record the TV or your testimony will be void.

Though I want you to do that SH Triple Bair out of QD

Then perform SH Nair/Fair/Dair/Up-air Autocancel in quick QD usage across the stage back and forth (QD SH Nair Autocancel to QD Fair Autocancel etc.) [All Autocancel, no L-cancels to be had]

Also do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c_iPK38R1o#t=30 (On stage Wavebounce QD to WJ B-reverse QD). Then a DACPivotgrab to DACUS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5cy6uqC0Os to QD FH Wavebounce Down-b https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRoJ7P-KyQU#t=279

 

[Gamegenie222]

PinkFresh was impressed with my movement, so yeah. Don't know how to DI MK though.
STILL LOST BECAUSE I'M ****ING TRASH

I'll learn that shiz, give me a day.

Brah we need to play whenever I'm on the EC lol. Closest solid Ike that I know of is Metroid if he still plays Ike.

 

[MonkUnit]

Playing against m2k was fun I guess. I wish I hadn't SD'd my first stock the first game. Sheik vs mewtwo isn't much fun

 

[Alakaslam]

Actually after you left i started wrecking face with ike in ranked. I realized that aerials are very punishable and shouldn't be used nearly as much as in PM. I won like 90% of my games with ike after that :D. This also means that lil mac is such an annoyance to deal with >_<

Awesome!

 

[shairn]

This Kirby though

 

[PMS | Tink-er]

I passed out. Anything interesting happen?

 

[standardtoaster]

triple r the god

 

[shairn]

I passed out. Anything interesting happen?

Triple R had a really tight set with Bizarro Flame using Kirby
Now we have a Zelda

 

[standardtoaster]

Stone to counter dair was amazing

 

[MLGF]

Good you now have your allotted time span and I wish you luck on your journey, use a cellphone or such to record the TV or your testimony will be void.

Though I want you to do that SH Triple Bair out of QD

Then perform SH Nair/Fair/Dair/Up-air Autocancel in quick QD usage across the stage back and forth (QD SH Nair Autocancel to QD Fair Autocancel etc.) [All Autocancel, no L-cancels to be had]

Also do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c_iPK38R1o#t=30 (On stage Wavebounce QD to WJ B-reverse QD). Then a DACPivotgrab to DACUS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5cy6uqC0Os to QD FH Wavebounce Down-b https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRoJ7P-KyQU#t=279

Well.. those other things, phew.
K, proved your point. Plenty of Ike tech I still need to learn. Although, with the exclusion of DACUS, I can't think of a reasonable need to apply some of that.
Still have more to worry about other things far more. I'll still get the triple back air, gonna keep my word on that.

 

[SpiderMad]

Well.. those other things, phew.
K, proved your point. Plenty of Ike tech I still need to learn. Although, with the exclusion of DACUS, I can't think of a reasonable need to apply some of that.
Still have more to worry about other things far more. I'll still get the triple back air, gonna keep my word on that.

*Out of QD
*Within 1-2 Business Days

And you don't see the reasonable need of having all four of your aerials auto cancel with only 4 frames of landing lag within a SH, and out of QD? Or the ability of Bair to both DJ and WL (and AGT if you had some item thrown at you right after) all within a SH; leading to Bair hitting then DJ WL/QD onto Platform, Bair DJ Nair/Bair, Bair DJ Nair/Dair Shield pressure? Or the reasonable need to have your QD WJ lead to an immediate onstage QD? Or DACPivotgrab going 2x the distance of a dash grab with Brawl reminiscent pivot grab boxes (QD turnaround JC grab makes this matter a little less, but QD still has that start-up)?

 

[MLGF]

Um... Nope.